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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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You can't make this up-

Today at work a couple colleagues were grousing about the death of the TPP and how it will help China.

I mentioned that Hillary said she was against it.

They both said yeah- but she didn't mean it. I gave them my raised eyebrow look and said, "Lying?"
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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Ivytalk wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Link?
Agreed. I call bullshit on that one.
forbes.com (25 Jan. 2017)
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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houndawg wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: Agreed. I call bullshit on that one.
forbes.com (25 Jan. 2017)

Solar power employed 43% of the Electric Power Generation sector's workforce in 2016, while fossil fuels combined accounted for just 22%. :coffee:

Get out of the mideast now.
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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CID1990 wrote:You can't make this up-

Today at work a couple colleagues were grousing about the death of the TPP and how it will help China.

I mentioned that Hillary said she was against it.

They both said yeah- but she didn't mean it. I gave them my raised eyebrow look and said, "Lying?"
Amazing, isn't it? :rofl:

She lied to get Bernie voters...and then was surprised and upset that they didn't bite.

Biggest. Liar. Ever. :nod:
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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houndawg wrote:
houndawg wrote:
forbes.com (25 Jan. 2017)

Solar power employed 43% of the Electric Power Generation sector's workforce in 2016, while fossil fuels combined accounted for just 22%. :coffee:

Get out of the mideast now.
USDOE report. :coffee:

Bye bye Saudis, bye bye Israel. You can have it out with your American made weapons. 8-)
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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CID1990 wrote:You can't make this up-

Today at work a couple colleagues were grousing about the death of the TPP and how it will help China.

I mentioned that Hillary said she was against it.

They both said yeah- but she didn't mean it. I gave them my raised eyebrow look and said, "Lying?"
She was all for it until it was dead and then she became the champion of the working class. You need to have a public position and a private position....
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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houndawg wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Day 1-2
1) Issued an executive order aimed at rolling back former President Barack Obama's Affordable Care Act.
2) Halted a reduction to the annual mortgage insurance premiums borrowers pay when taking out government-backed home loans.
3) Ordered agencies to freeze new regulations, giving the new administration time to review them.
4) Plans to move the US embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
The age of oil is in decline and every month alternative energies take a larger share of the pie. Solar now employs more workers than Oil, natural gas, and coal combined. :coffee:

We don't need to be in the mid-east at all and we don't need to keep carrying Israel. Think of the reduction in government spending...
Wrong. :dunce:

You probably saw a headline similar to
"Solar Employs More People In U.S. Electricity Generation Than Oil, Coal And Gas Combined"
BUT failed to comprehend that is just electricity production, not the total energy sector.

US ENERGY & EMPLOYMENT REPORT 2017
Page 28 of 84:
"..Solar technologies, both photovoltaic and concentrating, employ almost 374,000 workers, or 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce. This isfollowed by fossil fuel generation employment, which accounts for 22 percent of total Electric Power Generation employment and supports 187,117 workers across coal, oil, and natural gas generation technologies..."

Table 1. Generation and Fuels Employment by Sub-Technology
Page 29
Fossil Fuels: 1 million+
Oil/Petroleum: 515,518
Natural gas: 362,118
Coal: 160,119
Advanced gas: 36,117
https://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/201 ... t-2017.pdf

Solar: 373,807

Also
"..In the twelve months through September 2016, utility scale solar power generated 33.3 terawatt-hours (TWh), 0.82% of total U.S. electricity..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_pow ... ted_States

So solar in 2016 employed 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce, but the US only got less than 1% of its electricity from solar...
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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BDKJMU wrote:
houndawg wrote:
The age of oil is in decline and every month alternative energies take a larger share of the pie. Solar now employs more workers than Oil, natural gas, and coal combined. :coffee:

We don't need to be in the mid-east at all and we don't need to keep carrying Israel. Think of the reduction in government spending...
Wrong. :dunce:

You probably saw a headline similar to
"Solar Employs More People In U.S. Electricity Generation Than Oil, Coal And Gas Combined"
BUT failed to comprehend that is just electricity production, not the total energy sector.

US ENERGY & EMPLOYMENT REPORT 2017
Page 28 of 84:
"..Solar technologies, both photovoltaic and concentrating, employ almost 374,000 workers, or 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce. This isfollowed by fossil fuel generation employment, which accounts for 22 percent of total Electric Power Generation employment and supports 187,117 workers across coal, oil, and natural gas generation technologies..."

Table 1. Generation and Fuels Employment by Sub-Technology
Page 29
Fossil Fuels: 1 million+
Oil/Petroleum: 515,518
Natural gas: 362,118
Coal: 160,119
Advanced gas: 36,117
https://energy.gov/sites/prod/files/201 ... t-2017.pdf

Solar: 373,807

Also
"..In the twelve months through September 2016, utility scale solar power generated 33.3 terawatt-hours (TWh), 0.82% of total U.S. electricity..."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_pow ... ted_States

So solar in 2016 employed 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce, but the US only got less than 1% of its electricity from solar...
Yeah, but it's always sunny in Philadelphia.
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So solar in 2016 employed 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce, but the US only got less than 1% of its electricity from solar...
Wow. The model of efficiency. No WONDER Obomba's administration loved it so much.
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I love the boat rocking!
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:I love the boat rocking!
Yeah, that'll land his mug on Rushmore. :coffee:
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Trump will have his own mountain when he is done. :coffee:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump will have his own mountain when he is done. :coffee:
And it's going to be Yuuugggge.
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GannonFan wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Trump will have his own mountain when he is done. :coffee:
And it's going to be Yuuugggge.
It will be gold plated and the Mexicans are going to pay for it.
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AZGrizFan wrote:
So solar in 2016 employed 43 percent of the Electric Power Generation workforce, but the US only got less than 1% of its electricity from solar...
Wow. The model of efficiency. No WONDER Obomba's administration loved it so much.
That came to mind as well....so solar with all its employees will somehow be cheaper than using a source that literally just shoots from the ground. :? :lol:
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SDHornet wrote:
AZGrizFan wrote:
Wow. The model of efficiency. No WONDER Obomba's administration loved it so much.
That came to mind as well....so solar with all its employees will somehow be cheaper than using a source that literally just shoots from the ground. :? :lol:
Add in the externalities of oil and the gap closes. Oil has a little bit of a head start but efficiencies will be gained for renewables and further level the playing field.

At the very least, we aren't currently patrolling the Persian Gulf on behalf of wind and solar.
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It's nice being right. How many times did I tell people that the courts will check Trumps actions? How often did I tell people that the GOP isn't 100% behind him and that powerful leaders will oppose him? It's nice being right.
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Re: The First 100 Days of Trump

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Ibanez wrote:It's nice being right. How many times did I tell people that the courts will check Trumps actions? How often did I tell people that the GOP isn't 100% behind him and that powerful leaders will oppose him? It's nice being right.
What have the courts checked in the first 10 days other that a small portion of his exec action on refugees/immigrants from the 7 countries? And those court checks may be temporary.

"Early wins against Trump immigration order may not last
Initial court rulings protect travelers caught in limbo, but a full derailing of the president’s directive will be tough.

Immigrant rights groups scored a series of early court victories against President Donald Trump’s terrorism-focused executive order limiting travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, but legal experts and administration officials said the impact of those initial legal victories could prove fleeting.....

.....However, lawyers pressing the cases acknowledged that their courtroom wins so far may directly benefit no more than a couple of hundred people essentially caught in limbo when Trump signed his order Friday afternoon..

...The flurry of legal rulings Saturday and early Sunday do not appear to have disturbed the central thrust of Trump’s order....
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Checking his EO on vetting will not stand and it was over reach by yet another liberal judge. What she did is not legal
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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote:It's nice being right. How many times did I tell people that the courts will check Trumps actions? How often did I tell people that the GOP isn't 100% behind him and that powerful leaders will oppose him? It's nice being right.
What have the courts checked in the first 10 days other that a small portion of his exec action on refugees/immigrants from the 7 countries? And those court checks may be temporary.

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Thanks for answering your own question. :thumb: :roll: Courts aren't allowing him to do whatever he wants. They are checking his authority. Who cares if it's temporary. As long as they are checking him. He's not a monarch. He's not a dictator. He's a train wreck that needs to be controlled.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Checking his EO on vetting will not stand and it was over reach by yet another liberal judge. What she did is not legal
Thanks, Oliver Wendell Holmes...
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kalm wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Checking his EO on vetting will not stand and it was over reach by yet another liberal judge. What she did is not legal
Thanks, Oliver Wendell Holmes...
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Ibanez wrote:He's a train wreck that needs to be controlled.
There you go again, girlfriend. :lol:

Now, exactly what has he done that has been a train wreck? :suspicious:
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CAA Flagship wrote:
kalm wrote:
Thanks, Oliver Wendell Holmes...
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I hear he was a "hang 'em low" type of judge...
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SDHornet wrote: That came to mind as well....so solar with all its employees will somehow be cheaper than using a source that literally just shoots from the ground. :? Image
Add in the externalities of oil and the gap closes. Oil has a little bit of a head start but efficiencies will be gained for renewables and further level the playing field.

At the very least, we aren't currently patrolling the Persian Gulf on behalf of wind and solar.
Do you realize how much land solar and/or wind would require to replace fossil fuels? So much that they're really just a holy grail that will likely never achieve what liberals think they will. The real solutions are still being developed and we don't know what they are yet.

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