How Long Will The Shutdown Last? (Dec 2018)

[Skjellyfetti]

Any more 25th Amendment chatter lately?

Seems like half of the cabinet are temps. Maybe that's the strategy.

Can't 25th Amendment me if I have no cabinet! *taps head*.

[CID1990]

In my wildest dreams, it’ll be done by Christmas. With the Senate overriding a veto.


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Theyd need around 15 "bipartisan" Dems to vote for it

Not going to happen, and it wouldn't happen if the shoes was on the other foot, either


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[Ibanez]

In my wildest dreams, it’ll be done by Christmas. With the Senate overriding a veto.


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Theyd need around 15 "bipartisan" Dems to vote for it

Not going to happen, and it wouldn't happen if the shoes was on the other foot, either


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Hence my qualifier....


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[Skjellyfetti]

In my wildest dreams, it’ll be done by Christmas. With the Senate overriding a veto.


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Theyd need around 15 "bipartisan" Dems to vote for it

Not going to happen, and it wouldn't happen if the shoes was on the other foot, either

The Senate passed a spending bill with $1.5 billion for border security unanimously.

It would have passed the House as well... but, Trump threw a temper tantrum in his meeting with Ryan... so, it didn't get a vote in the House.

[css75]

So all you naysayers are saying we should have open borders? I would prefer to keep sex traffickers, drug dealers (we have a huge opiate addiction problem with heroin from S America), MS 13 members and other criminals out of the country.

Dems just want illegals here for votes, build the wall. The shutdown is not going to impact any vital devices, I went thru a fairly long one in the 90s.


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[SeattleGriz]

So how are the Dems tough on border security and how is a wall ineffective? These are two questions I don't see being asked of the Dems to explain.

[SDHornet]

lol at people bitching about this shutdown, especially Federal employees since all these turn out to be is paid for vacations. Something like 70% of the gubmint stays operational.

That said, I hope this shutdown is as long as possible. Starve the beast.

[CID1990]

Theyd need around 15 "bipartisan" Dems to vote for it

Not going to happen, and it wouldn't happen if the shoes was on the other foot, either

The Senate passed a spending bill with $1.5 billion for border security unanimously.

It would have passed the House as well... but, Trump threw a temper tantrum in his meeting with Ryan... so, it didn't get a vote in the House.

That’s not what I’m talking about, Junior

The Senate is currently working on a compromise bill that they *think* Trump won’t veto - it includes some number north of that 1.5 billion that is a non-starter for Trump.

If you think a stopgap CR with more than 1.5 is going to get a single Dem vote (after they just gained the house in what they believe is a rebuke of immigration policy) you are smoking some of that KIND BUD

[Skjellyfetti]

46 Democrats in the Senate voted for $25 billion in wall funding last February.

Also rejected.

[JohnStOnge]

You know I'd planned for weeks to go fish in Cameron Prairie National Refuge today if the weather conditions were right. Full moon. 4 star fishing day. And the weather conditions were excellent. But no. President Dumbass decided to cause a partial shutdown because Rush Limbaugh told him to. Never mind that the majority of Americans don't want the stupid wall. Never mind that the stupid wall has ALWAYS been opposed by a majority of Americans.

[93henfan]

You know I'd planned for weeks to go fish in Cameron Prairie National Refuge today if the weather conditions were right. Full moon. 4 star fishing day. And the weather conditions were excellent. But no. President Dumbass decided to cause a partial shutdown because Rush Limbaugh told him to. Never mind that the majority of Americans don't want the stupid wall. Never mind that the stupid wall has ALWAYS been opposed by a majority of Americans.

[Ibanez]

So all you naysayers are saying we should have open borders? I would prefer to keep sex traffickers, drug dealers (we have a huge opiate addiction problem with heroin from S America), MS 13 members and other criminals out of the country.

Dems just want illegals here for votes, build the wall. The shutdown is not going to impact any vital devices, I went thru a fairly long one in the 90s.


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Nope. But walls don’t always work and honestly- it’s placating the base. It’s placating you


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[CID1990]

46 Democrats in the Senate voted for $25 billion in wall funding last February.

Also rejected.

You don’t read well, do you?

25 billion?

Check your math


Again, I’m talking about right now - POST ELECTION Congress, where the Dems won’t vote for one dollar over 1.5 billion

Stop trying so hard, it makes it more painful

[css75]

46 Democrats in the Senate voted for $25 billion in wall funding last February.

Also rejected.

You don’t read well, do you?

25 billion?

Check your math


Again, I’m talking about right now - POST ELECTION Congress, where the Dems won’t vote for one dollar over 1.5 billion

Stop trying so hard, it makes it more painful

Places where there are walls work.


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[AZGrizFan]

I picked 6 weeks, although I was looking for the answer “not long enough”.

[Ibanez]

You don’t read well, do you?

25 billion?

Check your math


Again, I’m talking about right now - POST ELECTION Congress, where the Dems won’t vote for one dollar over 1.5 billion

Stop trying so hard, it makes it more painful

Places where there are walls work.


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They worked well at Jericho, Rome, Carthage, England/Scotland border. The Maginot Line, kinda of like a wall if you think about it, worked out great.

Let me guess- you’ll bring up the Great Wall. Or the Berlin Wall?


Why don’t we help these people from having to leave their homes. It’s the 21st Century, surely we don’t need to rely on a low tech wall that can be compromised by explosives, tunneling, ladders, etc....


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[TheDancinMonarch]

I picked 6 weeks, although I was looking for the answer “not long enough”.

My sentiments exactly. And this AM the hyper-liberal Norfolk Virginian-Pilot had its' first reference to the shutdown on page 7. I guess this partial shutdown does not actually signify the end of the world.

[93henfan]

Got word that next week's paychecks will be sent as scheduled.

Keep this puppy shut down!! I'm going to enjoy the time off.

[CID1990]

Places where there are walls work.


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They worked well at Jericho, Rome, Carthage, England/Scotland border. The Maginot Line, kinda of like a wall if you think about it, worked out great.

Let me guess- you’ll bring up the Great Wall. Or the Berlin Wall?


Why don’t we help these people from having to leave their homes. It’s the 21st Century, surely we don’t need to rely on a low tech wall that can be compromised by explosives, tunneling, ladders, etc....


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*tothehand*

Hadrian's Wall worked perfectly


The Roman Empire shriveled while hiding behind it


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[JohnStOnge]

Maybe some of you disagree but I think Trump's thought was a continuous wall along the entire US/Mexico border. I do not think that is a practical thought. I don't think it's a thought that a rational adult would've conceived. I don't think most of the people in the immediate vicinity of the border want anything like that. And I KNOW most people in the United States don't want it. When Trump pushes for this wall thing he is pushing against the will of a clear majority of the People.

[JohnStOnge]

BTW with this shutdown thing my take has always been that it should never happen. Money should be appropriated to spend on things both sides want to spend on things. If there's disagreement about whether or not to spend it don't spend it.

[AZGrizFan]

Places where there are walls work.


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They worked well at Jericho, Rome, Carthage, England/Scotland border. The Maginot Line, kinda of like a wall if you think about it, worked out great.

Let me guess- you’ll bring up the Great Wall. Or the Berlin Wall?


Why don’t we help these people from having to leave their homes. It’s the 21st Century, surely we don’t need to rely on a low tech wall that can be compromised by explosives, tunneling, ladders, etc....


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Yeah. Those countries get NO support from us.

[Ivytalk]

Maybe some of you disagree but I think Trump's thought was a continuous wall along the entire US/Mexico border. I do not think that is a practical thought. I don't think it's a thought that a rational adult would've conceived. I don't think most of the people in the immediate vicinity of the border want anything like that. And I KNOW most people in the United States don't want it. When Trump pushes for this wall thing he is pushing against the will of a clear majority of the People.

Yeah, adding a couple thousand Hondurans and Guats might actually improve the gene pool of southeast LA.

[AZGrizFan]

Maybe some of you disagree but I think Trump's thought was a continuous wall along the entire US/Mexico border. I do not think that is a practical thought. I don't think it's a thought that a rational adult would've conceived. I don't think most of the people in the immediate vicinity of the border want anything like that. And I KNOW most people in the United States don't want it. When Trump pushes for this wall thing he is pushing against the will of a clear majority of the People.

Yeah, adding a couple thousand Hondurans and Guats might actually improve the gene pool of southeast LA.

I’ve discovered your problem.

[CID1990]

One lesson that nobody takes from these shutdowns:

life goes on when they happen


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