Trump Private Estates over charging the Gov.

[mainejeff]

nothing is impeachable anymore... we've crossed over into the nether realm

That won't stop another attempt if he is reelected.

Of course it won't....it's in his genes to lie, cheat & steal. They will keep coming for him because he will keep doing Trumpy things and challenging our laws and norms. That being said....it is awesome having a silver lining of low interest rates and a booming stock market to soften the blows.

[SDHornet]

Solyndra at $535M.

Obama used executive privilege to block access to personal calls related to the deal. You're welcome.

But yeah, only a conk thing.

Firstly I gotta give you props for the dollar amount being perfect !!! (excellent example)
But it was an approved loan by Republicans...

"In 2006, the U.S. Department of Energy invited the company to apply for a new loan guarantee program, a program created with the support of a majority of Republicans, who controlled Congress at the time.

The company's December 2006 pre-application was enough to vault it into a group of 16 applicants invited to submit full applications in 2007. By early January 2009, Solyndra's file had been reviewed by the department's credit committee and returned with a request for further analysis. On Jan. 15, the loan program office said "due diligence" for the Solyndra loan was scheduled to be complete by March 2009. The money was going to build a gleaming new factory in Fremont, Calif."

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

[SDHornet]

No the funny part is that both sides have been doing and nothing is ever done...

...because now the other side of the aisle gets to complain about it...

...and do nothing about it when the pendulum swings their way again.

Dem Presidents don't rape America and then lie to our faces about it. I love Trump......but the guy is in it for himself. He could care less about ANY of us.....and he will lie, cheat and steal his way to the grave because WE owe it to him.

So he's just like pretty much any President we've had. Agreed.

[kalm]

I asked if you were a fan because...crying TDS over posts about obvious abuses of power.

kalm it's just a newer version of the "triggered" game...
announce that X person is triggered because they make a political observation counter to your ideological position

Remember back in the old days when you could just shout “liberal” and win an argument?

I weep for the past.

[Chizzang]

Firstly I gotta give you props for the dollar amount being perfect !!! (excellent example)
But it was an approved loan by Republicans...

"In 2006, the U.S. Department of Energy invited the company to apply for a new loan guarantee program, a program created with the support of a majority of Republicans, who controlled Congress at the time.

The company's December 2006 pre-application was enough to vault it into a group of 16 applicants invited to submit full applications in 2007. By early January 2009, Solyndra's file had been reviewed by the department's credit committee and returned with a request for further analysis. On Jan. 15, the loan program office said "due diligence" for the Solyndra loan was scheduled to be complete by March 2009. The money was going to build a gleaming new factory in Fremont, Calif."

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

I don't entirely disagree with you...
Congressmen on the take and everybody in it for themselves to one degree or another - no dispute there

I just happen to believe presently we've crossed over "new lines"
and new levels of in your face corruption

Trying to conceal a fuck up is considerably different than blatant in your face corruption
No doubt - Obama broke my heart a dozen times and made so many mistakes I couldn't vote for him a second time

but I don't see very many Republicans announcing what a disappointment Trump is
and am certain you'll line up and vote for him... and explain it all as business as usual

[kalm]

Firstly I gotta give you props for the dollar amount being perfect !!! (excellent example)
But it was an approved loan by Republicans...

"In 2006, the U.S. Department of Energy invited the company to apply for a new loan guarantee program, a program created with the support of a majority of Republicans, who controlled Congress at the time.

The company's December 2006 pre-application was enough to vault it into a group of 16 applicants invited to submit full applications in 2007. By early January 2009, Solyndra's file had been reviewed by the department's credit committee and returned with a request for further analysis. On Jan. 15, the loan program office said "due diligence" for the Solyndra loan was scheduled to be complete by March 2009. The money was going to build a gleaming new factory in Fremont, Calif."

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

So connect the dots directly from Solyndra to Obama’s pockets. I’m listening....

[Col Hogan]

Well, It wasn’t millions...and it wasn’t the President...but the former Vice President and current Democratic candidate Joe Biden made pretty penny charging the Secret Service for space on his property...

https://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washin ... t-him.html

[mainejeff]

Dem Presidents don't rape America and then lie to our faces about it. I love Trump......but the guy is in it for himself. He could care less about ANY of us.....and he will lie, cheat and steal his way to the grave because WE owe it to him.

So he's just like pretty much any President we've had. Agreed.

It's so easy to say everyone is the same....they're not.

[89Hen]

I guess if you consider me a fan because I take great pleasure in watching usually normal Libs turn into crying, irrational dolts... yeah, I guess then I'm a fan. Didn't vote for him in 2016, probably won't vote for him again.

I asked if you were a fan because...crying TDS over posts about obvious abuses of power.

Cleets has lost it. Sorry.

[Ibanez]

This might be the least surprising news I’ve heard in a while


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Just like the “yeah the other side did it to” excuse. As if that justifies anything.


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[CID1990]

This might be the least surprising news I’ve heard in a while


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Just like the “yeah the other side did it to” excuse. As if that justifies anything.


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*too

I’m not surprised at all that a sleazy real estate developer is overcharging the government and then lying about it simply because he can

He’ll probably have a job on the board of McDonnell Douglas or Raytheon ready and waiting for him when he’s done playing president



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[Chizzang]

Just like the “yeah the other side did it to” excuse. As if that justifies anything.


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*too

I’m not surprised at all that a sleazy real estate developer is overcharging the government and then lying about it simply because he can

He’ll probably have a job on the board of McDonnell Douglas or Raytheon ready and waiting for him when he’s done playing president

At this point that's probably the only logical attitude to have - just who cares

[SDHornet]

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

I don't entirely disagree with you...
Congressmen on the take and everybody in it for themselves to one degree or another - no dispute there

I just happen to believe presently we've crossed over "new lines"
and new levels of in your face corruption

Trying to conceal a fuck up is considerably different than blatant in your face corruption
No doubt - Obama broke my heart a dozen times and made so many mistakes I couldn't vote for him a second time

but I don't see very many Republicans announcing what a disappointment Trump is
and am certain you'll line up and vote for him... and explain it all as business as usual

So basically Trump should have just laundered the payments through a "foundation" and it would have been all good. Ok got it.

I'll vote for him because of the results...and the big middle finger he has been giving to the establishment and the Deep Staters along the way.

Oh and for the record, I voted for the pothead in '16.

[SDHornet]

Just like the “yeah the other side did it to” excuse. As if that justifies anything.


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*too

I’m not surprised at all that a sleazy real estate developer is overcharging the government and then lying about it simply because he can

He’ll probably have a job on the board of McDonnell Douglas or Raytheon ready and waiting for him when he’s done playing president



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Don't think he'll just settle for the six figure speaking fees at said company gatherings instead?

[mainejeff]

I'll vote for him because of the results...and the big middle finger he has been giving to the establishment and the Deep Staters along the way.

He's giving the finger to everyone that votes for him too.

[CID1990]

*too

I’m not surprised at all that a sleazy real estate developer is overcharging the government and then lying about it simply because he can

He’ll probably have a job on the board of McDonnell Douglas or Raytheon ready and waiting for him when he’s done playing president

At this point that's probably the only logical attitude to have - just who cares

Well let’s face it - the legislative branch has slowly surrendered its pen and phone to the executive, and so here we are

The President is one step away from being able to not even lie about it ... and supporters of whatever party holds the office will find a way to support whatever he/she/xe/it does regardless

I’m very close to not voting anymore... voting Libertarian isn’t a protest vote, because the very act of voting is to participate in the very political cunt convention that gives us Donald Trump and Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton as a binary choice

Fuck it





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[ALPHAGRIZ1]

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

I don't entirely disagree with you...
Congressmen on the take and everybody in it for themselves to one degree or another - no dispute there

I just happen to believe presently we've crossed over "new lines"
and new levels of in your face corruption

Trying to conceal a fuck up is considerably different than blatant in your face corruption
No doubt - Obama broke my heart a dozen times and made so many mistakes I couldn't vote for him a second time

but I don't see very many Republicans announcing what a disappointment Trump is
and am certain you'll line up and vote for him... and explain it all as business as usual

I know I will

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[houndawg]

Trump is the first President to profit from his position. He is such a scumbag.

By the way did you see Obama's new house?

What next, pointing out that they get family members appointments to lucrative positions on a board of directors without having any subject knowledge?

Bloomberg will be handling that angle during the campaign, I would imagine. Word is he's going to spend a shitload of money giving Trump's whelps the Hunter Biden treatment.

[89Hen]

the Hunter Biden treatment.

They're going to ignore them?

[Ivytalk]

What next, pointing out that they get family members appointments to lucrative positions on a board of directors without having any subject knowledge?

Bloomberg will be handling that angle during the campaign, I would imagine. Word is he's going to spend a shitload of money giving Trump's whelps the Hunter Biden treatment.

But do any of Trump’s kids exhibit the same combo of addiction, incompetence, and overall sleaze as the young Mr. Biden?

[houndawg]

the Hunter Biden treatment.

They're going to ignore them?

Maybe. They're going to be looking at Munuchins ties to Epstein's pimp too.

[houndawg]

Bloomberg will be handling that angle during the campaign, I would imagine. Word is he's going to spend a shitload of money giving Trump's whelps the Hunter Biden treatment.

But do any of Trump’s kids exhibit the same combo of addiction, incompetence, and overall sleaze as the young Mr. Biden?

You're talikg about D1 vs. Pop Warnet.

[kalm]

Bloomberg will be handling that angle during the campaign, I would imagine. Word is he's going to spend a shitload of money giving Trump's whelps the Hunter Biden treatment.

But do any of Trump’s kids exhibit the same combo of addiction, incompetence, and overall sleaze as the young Mr. Biden?

No. They’re just dumb as a board which obviouy never stopped their old man.

[mainejeff]

I don't know why Conservatives and Trump supporters would be against investigations into wrong-doings by the Trump children...??? Both Hunter Biden and the Trump children should be investigated. I would think that there will be vindication for some or all if they did nothing wrong, no?

[SeattleGriz]

So now it's not individual corruption but because a system created by someone else? If that isn't a jellybelly-esqe goalpost move than I don't know what is.

Wiki says the loans were issued under the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Pray-tell who controlled Congress in 2009?

Here's a question for you to think about: If Trumps corruption related to his businesses is so bad, where are the impeachment charges on emoluments clauses?

Hint: All these congress critters on both sides of the aisle are on the take, which is exactly my point. Good luck coming up with some mental gymnastics to claim is a conk only problem on this one.

Take the "L" and move on chizzy.

I don't entirely disagree with you...
Congressmen on the take and everybody in it for themselves to one degree or another - no dispute there

I just happen to believe presently we've crossed over "new lines"
and new levels of in your face corruption

Trying to conceal a fuck up is considerably different than blatant in your face corruption
No doubt - Obama broke my heart a dozen times and made so many mistakes I couldn't vote for him a second time

but I don't see very many Republicans announcing what a disappointment Trump is
and am certain you'll line up and vote for him... and explain it all as business as usual

I felt that way about Hillary and the crossing of new lines. When millions were pouring into her foundation buying influence, I called her a "new level of politician".