Yeah, weird they don't use Marine 1 for that trip. I wonder if any one (Air Force 1 vs. Marine 1) is safer for that type of trip.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:49 amhttps://www.airportdistancecalculator.c ... dR6H1lOk2wEstimated flight time from Dover Air Force Base, Dover-Cheswold, United States to Andrews Air Force Base, Camp Springs, United States is 0 hours 9 minutes under avarage conditions. The flight time calculator assumes an average flight speed for a commercial airliner of 500 mph, which is equivalent to 805 km/hr or 434 knots. Your actual flying time may vary depending on wind speeds or weather conditions.
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I wonder if the weather had something to do with them choosing Air Force 1 vs. Marine 1?GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:54 amYeah, weird they don't use Marine 1 for that trip. I wonder if any one (Air Force 1 vs. Marine 1) is safer for that type of trip.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:49 am
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Nevermind...I see Winterborn asked my questionCAA Flagship wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:49 amhttps://www.airportdistancecalculator.c ... dR6H1lOk2wEstimated flight time from Dover Air Force Base, Dover-Cheswold, United States to Andrews Air Force Base, Camp Springs, United States is 0 hours 9 minutes under avarage conditions. The flight time calculator assumes an average flight speed for a commercial airliner of 500 mph, which is equivalent to 805 km/hr or 434 knots. Your actual flying time may vary depending on wind speeds or weather conditions.
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I am just curious.Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:30 amNevermind...I see Winterborn asked my questionCAA Flagship wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:49 am
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Have never been a helicopter nor have I had a chance to talk to a pilot of one about flying one and the differences. I would assume that outside of high winds and maybe visibility, there would not be much of a difference between the two choices. But that is just a guess.
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FWIW, when I saw the clip from the snow, it looked like it was another POTUS plane and not AF1. I just said AF1 because that was what I heard on the report, but it sure did not look like a 747.
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My non-expert opinion makes me think high winds are more easily handled in a plane than a helicopter.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:30 amI am just curious.
Have never been a helicopter nor have I had a chance to talk to a pilot of one about flying one and the differences. I would assume that outside of high winds and maybe visibility, there would not be much of a difference between the two choices. But that is just a guess.
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That is my guess as well.Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:58 amMy non-expert opinion makes me think high winds are more easily handled in a plane than a helicopter.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:30 am
I am just curious.
Have never been a helicopter nor have I had a chance to talk to a pilot of one about flying one and the differences. I would assume that outside of high winds and maybe visibility, there would not be much of a difference between the two choices. But that is just a guess.
There has to be somebody here that could tell us noobs which is right.
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My cousin isn't answering his phone. Doesn't he know this is important!!!!!!!!!!!Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:24 pmThat is my guess as well.
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Technically it said it was too severe to use the copters from Andrews to the WH, but I imagine the same from Delaware. BTW, they showed the motorcade on TV and it was insane. Easily 30 black SUV's. I've never seen one over 5-10.A snowstorm in the Washington, D.C., area left U.S. President Joe Biden, as well as other members of his entourage, briefly stuck on a U.S. Air Force C-32A jet (Air Force 2) at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland this morning. Once the President was able to deplane, he had to take a motorcade to the White House since the weather was too severe for 'Marine One' helicopters to fly him there.
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Helicopters are much more precarious in high winds. However, airplanes are just as vulnerable when there is a heavy crosswind component on landing and takeoff.
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I’m so glad I know everything so I never have to use a lifeline to phone a friend.Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:08 pmMy cousin isn't answering his phone. Doesn't he know this is important!!!!!!!!!!!Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:24 pm
That is my guess as well.
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Heck, they could have just driven him down I95..Ibanez wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:58 amMy non-expert opinion makes me think high winds are more easily handled in a plane than a helicopter.Winterborn wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:30 am
I am just curious.
Have never been a helicopter nor have I had a chance to talk to a pilot of one about flying one and the differences. I would assume that outside of high winds and maybe visibility, there would not be much of a difference between the two choices. But that is just a guess.
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POLL RESET
Since most got knocked out of the original poll, I reset it.
Make your pick AND POST YOUR CHOICE.
I took Mar - Apr '22
Since most got knocked out of the original poll, I reset it.
Make your pick AND POST YOUR CHOICE.
I took Mar - Apr '22
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Good luck with that. It’s some rarified air, for sure.
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Jan to Feb. It'll be due to snow or ice.
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How he, or anyone, survived this in dress shoes is beyond me.
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Shoe chains. I used to have some for my old cowboy boots.CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:35 amHow he, or anyone, survived this in dress shoes is beyond me.
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March/April is mine. Better chance of warm temps with freezing/thawing going on. Plus you are more distracted when it is warmer out and forget where you are walking.
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March April because that gives enough time for the Dems to kick him off the ballot and replace the doddering old fool.
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Ivy driving through Rehoboth Beach in October ...
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Nobody had May - June 2022. Poll is reset