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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am
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The right has their share of slanted media too, just not as much and no one pretends that the media on the right is objective and respectable. People do like to pretend that some news organizations are unbiased which is becoming less and less prevalent.

For the Hunter thing, come on, you're not really serious are you? Of course that was squashed. Influential media gatekeepers like Twitter and Facebook have already said out loud that they suppressed and hid stories related to it. They can say it now because it's two years after the fact, but they clearly did it. Other news organizations ran with that too, basically reporting that they, along with the social media sites, had decided it was fake news and not to be trusted. They didn't really know that (hence the incorrect reporting), but it fit their polarized view of the subject so that's how they reported it. I don't think it's the crime of the century or anything, but it's clearly a shining example of modern day yellow journalism. They got it wrong, and they waited years to tell us (or at least some have - some haven't even mentioned it) that they got it wrong.
FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
If you take a look at it in a wider picture of what has been happening the past 7 years at the FBI (and maybe longer) the "Russian Propaganda" angle takes a pretty big credibility hit.

It is pure typical DC coverup and misdirection.This happens on multiple levels all the time in that city.
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What about them?
Women can be pedos too.
Do you ever think you're sexualizing nudity in your mind? If you see a naked kid at the beach or at a public sauna...is your first thought that the parents are pedos? :?
Other than a baby having its diaper changed at the beach, I've never seen a naked kid at the beach and I don't go to public saunas. That's not the question though. Why was Biden taking inappropriate (her words) showers with his preteen daughter?
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Baldy wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:37 am
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Do you ever think you're sexualizing nudity in your mind? If you see a naked kid at the beach or at a public sauna...is your first thought that the parents are pedos? :?
Other than a baby having its diaper changed at the beach, I've never seen a naked kid at the beach and I don't go to public saunas. That's not the question though. Why was Biden taking inappropriate (her words) showers with his preteen daughter?
In Trip's defense, Americans are more prudish/puritan than many other cultures. And as he says the context is important. I've taken showers with my kids at the pool but we have our suits on. I also don't see anything wrong with changing in front of them. But that is seconds of nudity and nothing sexual.

I find it odd if Biden was taking a private shower with Ashley. My ex and I gave our kids baths when they were very young then taught them how to bath themselves when they were old enough. We didn't take showers with them. Maybe it's the American in me, but that seems odd and creepy.
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Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:43 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am

FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
If you take a look at it in a wider picture of what has been happening the past 7 years at the FBI (and maybe longer) the "Russian Propaganda" angle takes a pretty big credibility hit.

It is pure typical DC coverup and misdirection.This happens on multiple levels all the time in that city.
You think Russian propaganda doesn’t exist? It’s just “pure typical DC cover up and misdirection”?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am
GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:53 am

The right has their share of slanted media too, just not as much and no one pretends that the media on the right is objective and respectable. People do like to pretend that some news organizations are unbiased which is becoming less and less prevalent.

For the Hunter thing, come on, you're not really serious are you? Of course that was squashed. Influential media gatekeepers like Twitter and Facebook have already said out loud that they suppressed and hid stories related to it. They can say it now because it's two years after the fact, but they clearly did it. Other news organizations ran with that too, basically reporting that they, along with the social media sites, had decided it was fake news and not to be trusted. They didn't really know that (hence the incorrect reporting), but it fit their polarized view of the subject so that's how they reported it. I don't think it's the crime of the century or anything, but it's clearly a shining example of modern day yellow journalism. They got it wrong, and they waited years to tell us (or at least some have - some haven't even mentioned it) that they got it wrong.
FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:35 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:43 am

If you take a look at it in a wider picture of what has been happening the past 7 years at the FBI (and maybe longer) the "Russian Propaganda" angle takes a pretty big credibility hit.

It is pure typical DC coverup and misdirection.This happens on multiple levels all the time in that city.
You think Russian propaganda doesn’t exist? It’s just “pure typical DC cover up and misdirection”?
Of course it exists. So does American propaganda and propaganda from everywhere else in the world. Heck, there's propaganda on this board as well. But the best way to deal with it is out in the open and in open debate. Hiding from what you think is propaganda gets us far too close to censorship for my liking, especially when the skill of the people determining something is propaganda is not skillful enough.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:35 am
Winterborn wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:43 am

If you take a look at it in a wider picture of what has been happening the past 7 years at the FBI (and maybe longer) the "Russian Propaganda" angle takes a pretty big credibility hit.

It is pure typical DC coverup and misdirection.This happens on multiple levels all the time in that city.
You think Russian propaganda doesn’t exist? It’s just “pure typical DC cover up and misdirection”?
My comment was made with respect to Hunter's laptop that it was "Russian Propaganda". Of course I believe Russian propaganda exists, just like there is U.S. propaganda, U.K. propaganda, etc., etc.

And the comment about DC cover up is absolutely true. Anybody that has spent time in that city rubbing elbows with the folks in the agencies and elected officials can attest to this. It is the way politics has always worked. To believe otherwise is naive.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am

FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am

FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
So now that we all know…what’s next?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:52 pm
GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am

It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
So now that we all know…what’s next?
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:52 pm
GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am

It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
So now that we all know…what’s next?
Well, I guess we just hope that next time something newsworthy comes up that our independent media doesn't collectively decide that the news should be censored and kept from our purview. So, cross our fingers? :coffee:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:12 pm
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:52 pm

So now that we all know…what’s next?
Well, I guess we just hope that next time something newsworthy comes up that our independent media doesn't collectively decide that the news should be censored and kept from our purview. So, cross our fingers? :coffee:
Yet it was still reported on back then. One side of the aisle had every reason to blow it up but somehow couldn’t because…social media? They’re still trying and no one is listening!

Damn msm/swamp…will their evil ways never end! :lol:
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am

FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
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kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:09 pm
GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 2:12 pm

Well, I guess we just hope that next time something newsworthy comes up that our independent media doesn't collectively decide that the news should be censored and kept from our purview. So, cross our fingers? :coffee:
Yet it was still reported on back then. One side of the aisle had every reason to blow it up but somehow couldn’t because…social media? They’re still trying and no one is listening!

Damn msm/swamp…will their evil ways never end! :lol:
No one is listening? The people you read/listen to might not be listening but there are people paying attention. This is a legitimate part of why many are distrustful of and dissatisfied with our government. That distrust is a greater threat to our republic than trump. It needs to be addressed.
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UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:59 am
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Other than a baby having its diaper changed at the beach, I've never seen a naked kid at the beach and I don't go to public saunas. That's not the question though. Why was Biden taking inappropriate (her words) showers with his preteen daughter?
In Trip's defense, Americans are more prudish/puritan than many other cultures. And as he says the context is important. I've taken showers with my kids at the pool but we have our suits on. I also don't see anything wrong with changing in front of them. But that is seconds of nudity and nothing sexual.

I find it odd if Biden was taking a private shower with Ashley. My ex and I gave our kids baths when they were very young then taught them how to bath themselves when they were old enough. We didn't take showers with them. Maybe it's the American in me, but that seems odd and creepy.
I get it, but you have to look at it from Biden's POV as well. It isn't like he's some 1st or 2nd generation immigrant from an entirely different culture. He's has sold himself as good 'ol red blooded American blue collar Joe from Scranton. Taking showers with your preteen child is in no way a part of his culture.
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I wonder if she rubbed her hands up and down his hairy legs as he sniffed her hair..
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Baldy wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:59 am

In Trip's defense, Americans are more prudish/puritan than many other cultures. And as he says the context is important. I've taken showers with my kids at the pool but we have our suits on. I also don't see anything wrong with changing in front of them. But that is seconds of nudity and nothing sexual.

I find it odd if Biden was taking a private shower with Ashley. My ex and I gave our kids baths when they were very young then taught them how to bath themselves when they were old enough. We didn't take showers with them. Maybe it's the American in me, but that seems odd and creepy.
I get it, but you have to look at it from Biden's POV as well. It isn't like he's some 1st or 2nd generation immigrant from an entirely different culture. He's has sold himself as good 'ol red blooded American blue collar Joe from Scranton. Taking showers with your preteen child is in no way a part of his culture.
I think that's the thing: we don't know when she wrote this and what age she was referring to. It's clearly a "young age" from her own words, but how young? And it's worth repeating, how old is she when the entry is written?

If I'm experiencing sexual trauma as a 12yo and trying to figure out what happened in my past life, it's completely legitimate to question if dad showering with me as a 5yo is appropriate. Critical questioning like that is a sign of good age development.

That said, and I'm obviously not a professional, but I would guess that an actual therapist would dismiss it as white noise and try to delve deeper into what's going on. They might follow-up and ask if her dad touched her inappropriately as a child and specifically in the shower, but otherwise, they'd probably think it's not relevant and dig for the real cause(s) of trauma.

edit: also from context clues in the snippet (and I haven't read the rest of the diary), the "Woolzack" home seems like the source of legit trauma. That home is mentioned in the same sentence where she thinks she's molested and how she didn't like going there.
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GannonFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:44 am
kalm wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:28 am

FB didn’t cover it at the behest of FBI concerns over Russian propaganda leading up to an election - which is a real threat. The media has had time before that and since to run with it.

I’m not saying there isn’t more to it…and agree on yellow journalism. But it would be a massive conspiracy that involved the FBI, CIA, in cohorts with the msm. Again…could all be true but It’s just not all that exciting yet.
It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
And their inaction and diversionary tactics absolutely 100% impacted the election.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:08 pm
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It wasn't just "concerns" over Russian propaganda, this was peddled as absolutely false when those in the know knew it was absolutely true. You had 30-50 former intelligence chiefs or bigwigs or whatever they were sign a letter attesting to the "fact" that the laptop was a hoax and that there was no truth to it, when either they didn't know themselves what was true or not or they were told something that ended up being incorrect. And the media ran headlines on the denial by these folks in the know and Twitter buried the story as did Facebook. And in the end, it was an absolutely true story, but we were only told that 2 years later. That's abominable journalism for a democratic country and a free press. That's almost TASS worthy in terms of shoddy journalism.
And their inaction and diversionary tactics absolutely 100% impacted the election.
Sure. If the voters had only known about Hunter’s involvement in UKR instead of just Trump’s, Donald would have won for sure.
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Baldy wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:41 pm Taking showers with your preteen child is in no way a part of his culture.
How do you know she was a preteen? There's no indication of her age in the diary.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:53 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:08 pm

And their inaction and diversionary tactics absolutely 100% impacted the election.
Sure. If the voters had only known about Hunter’s involvement in UKR instead of just Trump’s, Donald would have won for sure.
Stop being obtuse. It’s not HUNTER we give a shit about. it’s his father’s involvement in Hunter’s schemes and illegal activities.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:56 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:53 am

Sure. If the voters had only known about Hunter’s involvement in UKR instead of just Trump’s, Donald would have won for sure.
Stop being obtuse. It’s not HUNTER we give a shit about. it’s his father’s involvement in Hunter’s schemes and illegal activities.
Right…so what evidence is their of Joe’s involvement. Connect those dots.
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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:49 am
AZGrizFan wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:56 am

Stop being obtuse. It’s not HUNTER we give a shit about. it’s his father’s involvement in Hunter’s schemes and illegal activities.
Right…so what evidence is their of Joe’s involvement. Connect those dots.
Who do you think ‘The big guy is’?
Proud deplorable Ultra MAGA fascist NAZI trash clinging to my guns and religion (and whatever else I’ve been labeled by Obama/Clinton/Biden/Harris).
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Re: Ashley Biden's Diary

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:45 am
kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:49 am

Right…so what evidence is their of Joe’s involvement. Connect those dots.
Who do you think ‘The big guy is’?
Joe.
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Re: Ashley Biden's Diary

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kalm wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:53 am
BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:45 am
Who do you think ‘The big guy is’?
Joe.
That's more evidence than there is that trump's a fascist. Case closed, Joe's guilty, time for media sentencing. :D
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