The nub of the climate change thing problem

[Chizzang]

Not to interrupt this conk circle jerk but are there any articles from websites not funded by the Kochs, Exxon, and/or the heartland institute reporting this stuff?

* I hope they're right in their skepticism, but if not...please carry on.

watch what happens to your research grant when you publish findings not acceptable to the consensus scientific community- and try getting a grant in the first place without stating a pro-AGW intent

its all about whos your daddy

not science

Hold on there Saint Francis...
There are exactly TWO ways to get research grant money
1) Follow Consensus
or
2) Staunchly Deny Consensus



You make it sound like there's only one steaming pile of junk science out there

[travelinman67]

watch what happens to your research grant when you publish findings not acceptable to the consensus scientific community- and try getting a grant in the first place without stating a pro-AGW intent

its all about whos your daddy

not science

Hold on there Saint Francis...
There are exactly TWO ways to get research grant money
1) Follow Consensus
or
2) Staunchly Deny Consensus



You make it sound like there's only one steaming pile of junk science out there

Sure thing Kalm.

A couple years back, Watts had a compilation of pro-AGW vs Unbiased Climate related research, I believe the author was a Meteorologist out of CU Boulder.
The ratio was around TWO MILLION TO ONE, respectively.

Either your IQ has plummeted to 50, or your "observation" is overtly disingenuous.

I'll look around and try to find the study. Since you and Kalm are now resorting to throwing back irrelevant red herrings to convolute the debate, I'll accomodate you by cooking those herrings, then force-feed 'em back to you.

Bon Appetit!

[travelinman67]

Here you go, Hippie...

As of 2009
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/image ... _money.pdf

Debunking the "Brulle Report" (an alarmists lame attempt to claim no disparity in funding)...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor ... -research/

Federal funding, 2008-2014 (note, government categorizes funding $77 billion to research for "climate change" research and "climate change adaptation"...confirming the government's predisposed assumption of the existence of "climatechange", and further, a category for "greenhouse gas reduction", again, biasing research to assume an, as yet unproven, correlation between "greenhouse gases" and "climate change"...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... 8588,d.cGU

Couldn't find the CU study, but Joanne Novas 2009 research sticks a fork in the myth of equality and research non-bias.

Eat up!

[Baldy]

If it wasn't, I'm sure kalm would have provided an article from an unbiased source.

Hey! It's up to you clowns to refute 90x% of scientists with a scientific non-biased source!

Mob mentality is irrefutable no matter how good a source is.

[CID1990]

watch what happens to your research grant when you publish findings not acceptable to the consensus scientific community- and try getting a grant in the first place without stating a pro-AGW intent

its all about whos your daddy

not science

Hold on there Saint Francis...
There are exactly TWO ways to get research grant money
1) Follow Consensus
or
2) Staunchly Deny Consensus



You make it sound like there's only one steaming pile of junk science out there

when i say grants i am referring to government money

i suppose research money from a private source is a "grant" also but that wasnt what i was referring to- since klam
already made reference to the Koch brothers oh my

[kalm]

This conspiracy puts Bohemian Grove to shame!

[CID1990]

This conspiracy puts Bohemian Grove to shame!

ok harry reid

[kalm]

This conspiracy puts Bohemian Grove to shame!

ok harry reid

Whatever Michelle Bachmann.

[Baldy]

This conspiracy puts Bohemian Grove to shame!

Which conspiracy?
Anthropogenic Global Warming or the Koch Brothers?

[kalm]

This conspiracy puts Bohemian Grove to shame!

Which conspiracy?
Anthropogenic Global Warming or the Koch Brothers?

The Queen, The Vatican, The Getty's, The Rothschilds, AND... Colonel Sanders before he went tets up.

I hate the Colonel with his wee beady eyes and that smug look...

[Chizzang]

Hold on there Saint Francis...
There are exactly TWO ways to get research grant money
1) Follow Consensus
or
2) Staunchly Deny Consensus



You make it sound like there's only one steaming pile of junk science out there

when i say grants i am referring to government money

i suppose research money from a private source is a "grant" also but that wasnt what i was referring to- since klam
already made reference to the Koch brothers oh my

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

[AZGrizFan]

Go to NOAA's website and google "southern sea ice anomaly" you lazy bastard.

I did. It came up jibberish. Did you mean google "southern sea ice..." Or search NOAA's website?

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global-snow/2014/5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sweet Jesus you libs are lazy.

The May 2014 Southern Hemisphere sea ice extent was 12.03 million square km (4.64 million square miles), 1.24 million square km (470,000 square miles), or 11.5 percent, above the 1981-2010 average. This ranked as the largest Antarctic sea ice extent on record, surpassing the May 2000 Antarctic sea ice extent by 370,000 square km (140,000 square miles), approximately the size of Japan. This marked the 17th consecutive month with much above average sea ice extent in the Southern Hemisphere and the second consecutive month with record large sea ice. In fact, six of the last 12 months have had record large sea ice extent in the Southern Hemisphere. Much of the above-average ice extent occurred in the Weddell Sea off the West Antarctic coast, with above-average sea ice in nearly every region. Southern Hemisphere sea ice extent during May is increasing at an average rate of 2.5 percent per decade with substantial interannual variability.


When combining the Northern and Southern Hemisphere sea ice extents, the globally-averaged sea ice extent during May was 24.81 million square km (9.58 million square miles), 2.6 percent above the 1981-2010 average and the sixth largest May global sea ice extent on record. Global sea ice extent during May is decreasing at an average rate of 0.1 percent per decade.

[CID1990]

when i say grants i am referring to government money

i suppose research money from a private source is a "grant" also but that wasnt what i was referring to- since klam
already made reference to the Koch brothers oh my

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

I think it goes without saying that private moneyed interests ALWAYS have an agenda. Nothing new there.

The problem is that too many people seem to think that the government is as pure as the wind driven snow when in reality (and I see it all the time) it is also just as agenda driven

[AZGrizFan]

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

I think it goes without saying that private moneyed interests ALWAYS have an agenda. Nothing new there.

The problem is that too many people seem to think that the government is as pure as the wind driven snow when in reality (and I see it all the time) it is also just as agenda driven

Nowhere, at no time, has the government ever operated without an agenda.

[travelinman67]

Amount?

Source?

Please read my last post BEFORE attempting to cite Brulle report.



when i say grants i am referring to government money

i suppose research money from a private source is a "grant" also but that wasnt what i was referring to- since klam
already made reference to the Koch brothers oh my

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

[SeattleGriz]

when i say grants i am referring to government money

i suppose research money from a private source is a "grant" also but that wasnt what i was referring to- since klam
already made reference to the Koch brothers oh my

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

Now you're getting it.

[Chizzang]

Its a lot like the Evolution deny team...
There is money out there if you make it clear the results you're looking to find

Now you're getting it.

Do tell oh wise one...

[SDHornet]

Jesus this thread is a massacre.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA[/youtube]

[SeattleGriz]

Now you're getting it.

Do tell oh wise one...

I'll answer this is the ID thread. Already took this one off topic too much.

[AZGrizFan]

Jesus this thread is a massacre.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA[/youtube]

Agreed. klammy, et. al., are getting their collective asses handed to them....those fellas are like Jerry Cooney....

[travelinman67]

Jesus this thread is a massacre.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA[/youtube]

Agreed. klammy, et. al., are getting their collective asses handed to them....those fellas are like Jerry Cooney....

Source? Link?

Leave it to a conk to assign responsibility...

This hoax developed under BUSH!

[kalm]

Jesus this thread is a massacre.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA[/youtube]

Agreed. klammy, et. al., are getting their collective asses handed to them....those fellas are like Jerry Cooney....

Still waiting for one scientific organization to agree with you...

[travelinman67]

Agreed. klammy, et. al., are getting their collective asses handed to them....those fellas are like Jerry Cooney....

Still waiting for one scientific organization to agree with you...

The majority of posters on this thread, over 90%, agree with AZ. So using the Donk shoutdown methodology, the debate is settled, AZ is correct.

Consensus!

[CID1990]

Still waiting for one scientific organization to agree with you...

The majority of posters on this thread, over 90%, agree with AZ. So using the Donk shoutdown methodology, the debate is settled, AZ is correct.

Consensus!

[kalm]

The majority of posters on this thread, over 90%, agree with AZ. So using the Donk shoutdown methodology, the debate is settled, AZ is correct.

Consensus!

* scientific group

** conk comedy