Shooting at AME church in Charleston, SC

[Gil Dobie]

Dylan Roof gets the death penalty. I'm guessing this is one time when anti-death-penalty, jail-is-for-rehabilitation-and-not-punishment liberals start foaming at the mouth and want a public boiling in oil.

He should serve life in prison for what he did.

Life in prison is more of a punishment than death and no longer having to deal with life and prison. Death gets rid of all his problems.

[houndawg]

What took the jury 3 hours? How long until he's executed? 2037?

Lunch?

[Gil Dobie]

What took the jury 3 hours? How long until he's executed? 2037?

Lunch?

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

[houndawg]

Lunch?

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

We had shitty pizza brought in

[andy7171]

Lunch?

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

Fancy hotel in Minot?

[mrklean]

He should serve life in prison for what he did.

Life in prison is more of a punishment than death and no longer having to deal with life and prison. Death gets rid of all his problems.

It cost 45k a year to keep him alive in prison. a .22 bullet cost .25

[Grizalltheway]

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

Fancy hotel in Minot?

[CAA Flagship]

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

We had shitty pizza brought in

What were you doing in St. Louis?

[HI54UNI]

Life in prison is more of a punishment than death and no longer having to deal with life and prison. Death gets rid of all his problems.

It cost 45k a year to keep him alive in prison. a .22 bullet cost .25

If capital punishment could be executed swiftly you would be correct. But by the time he sits in solitary, cost of appeals, etc. and the sentence is carried out 10-12-15 years from now more will have been spent on that 10-15 years than if he stayed in prison for 40+ years.

[Gil Dobie]

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

Fancy hotel in Minot?

The St Paul, where GHWB, Billy and GW set up camp when they came to St Paul.

[Gil Dobie]

It cost 45k a year to keep him alive in prison. a .22 bullet cost .25

If capital punishment could be executed swiftly you would be correct. But by the time he sits in solitary, cost of appeals, etc. and the sentence is carried out 10-12-15 years from now more will have been spent on that 10-15 years than if he stayed in prison for 40+ years.

#Reason2

[andy7171]

Fancy hotel in Minot?

The St Paul, where GHWB, Billy and GW set up camp when they came to St Paul.

I don't know those guys.

[Gil Dobie]

The St Paul, where GHWB, Billy and GW set up camp when they came to St Paul.

I don't know those guys.

They aren't from Baltimore and don't have big titties, that's why.

[andy7171]

I don't know those guys.

They aren't from Baltimore and don't have big titties, that's why.

I'm not Ursus, good sir!

[houndawg]

We had shitty pizza brought in

What were you doing in St. Louis?

My jury was in Jackson County

[Grizalltheway]

The St Paul, where GHWB, Billy and GW set up camp when they came to St Paul.

I don't know those guys.

You don't know three former presidents?

[andy7171]

I don't know those guys.

You don't know three former presidents?

Yes.

[Ivytalk]

We had free lunch at a fancy hotel every day on jury duty.

We had shitty pizza brought in

Did you vote to convict?

[Gil Dobie]

We had shitty pizza brought in

Did you vote to convict?

We had 2nd degree murder case. No weapon found, no motive. Only witness was in the front seat of the car and didn't see the shot from the back seat to the person's head, reaching under the drivers seat for the pot. Witness was from E St Louis with a long list if offenses. Told the video interviewer that he hadn't gotten in trouble in Minnesota except for that sh it he went to jail for. Defendants phone records matched his story and claimed the witness held a gun on him and made them burn the car with the body. Most of us thought the witness committed the murder, but he wasn't on trial. Took a day and a half for everyone to agree on the acquittal. Prosecutors just didn't put all the pieces together to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Grizalltheway]

You don't know three former presidents?

Yes.

Okay, just checking!

[andy7171]

Yes.

Okay, just checking!

Not a problem.

[houndawg]

We had shitty pizza brought in

Did you vote to convict?

We found for the defendant

[CID1990]

I used to be hardcore for the death penalty when I was younger.

Now I'm on the fence. I wonder if life in prison wouldn't be better- a worse punishment for this guy.

That said, he is obviously someone who can never be free to roam, ever again- and that begs the question if it is appropriate to keep him alive until he dies naturally.

Being against the death penalty seems to be the easiest position to defend from the moral and libertarian standpoint, but it gets less so in the pragmatic, utilitarian view.

[mrklean]

Fry this Mother Fvcker!!!!!!!!

[andy7171]

He'll get his ass kicked everyday until his appeals are finished. If he doesn't kill himself before then. Regardless, fuck him.
Is there a racial break down of the jury?