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Re: Presidential Debate Thread- #1

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kalm wrote:
93henfan wrote:
The forest is that Hillary Clinton is against just about everything I care about. You're being obtuse. I'm getting right to the point. Only one person can beat her, so I have to support that person.
I'm guessing she's "for" about 80% of what you care about just like Trump. The one glaring exception I'm guessing would be gun rights. But keep on thinking your vote for either party matters.... :lol:
In Delaware it doesn't. In Virginia it mattered a bit more. But Virginia is going increasingly blue as the Federal Government vortex continues to suck liberals into NOVA.
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93henfan wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
I don't think that happens anymore. People listen to what they already want to listen to. If you're already in one of these camps then you're certainly going to believe that camp won. Trump people are going to love what Trump did, Hillary people are going to love what she did. Doesn't change that it was a mess all over the place.
Totally agree, but there are still some undecideds (as well as Stein and Johnson cute moral standers) out there and some, even if it's only a couple of percent, will certainly gravitate toward Clinton after these 90 minutes. Trump gained nobody. That's all I'm saying.
True, but he didn't lose anyone either. When so many expected him to fly off the handle, have a meltdown or major gaffes, he didn't. This was Hillary's 15th 1 on 1 political debate as a major political candidate (Senate or POTUS). It was Trumps 1st. He was the big underdog here. He was suppose to lose. He did lose, but not badly. The fact there was no knockout means I don't think Hillary gets much if any bump. If she gets one at all it might be 1-2%. I don't see any 3-5% bump..
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93henfan wrote:
SeattleGriz wrote:Trump is up 52 - 48 in the Time online poll. 165K voted as of my casting.
CNN is about to post up a supposedly scientific poll in a few.

I'll wager it goes 59-41 Clinton +/- 5%.
Just like when they said Trump gave a dark speech at the RNC, but yet 75% of their viewers saw it as positive.
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CNN focus group of 20 undecided Florida voters goes 18 out of 20 to Clinton.

SURPRISE.
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Well, lending support to GF's previous comments is that multiple members of CNN's focus group say that neither candidate truly impressed them or said what they needed to say to get their vote.
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Baldy wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Link?
Don't hold your breath. :coffee:
Look boys and Girls,
Trump is alot of things but "good with money" isn't in his top ten...

"Ultimately, in the early 1990s, Trump’s winning streak ground to a halt. The national economy started to slow down, and New York's economy stalled, causing Trump’s income streams to dwindle. Soon, he found it difficult to make the interest payments on the debt he'd accrued to finance his different businesses. Trump's annual loan payments were $300 million. The Trump Organization and its subsidiaries owed $9 billion, and Trump's personal debt totaled $975 million."

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Not surprised about the bias of Holt & NBC. Look at the questions Trump was asked (ex tax returns). Did Holt ask Hillary about her mishandling & lying about classified e-mails? No. Did he ask her about Benghazi? No. Did he ask her about the Clinton Foudation and pay to play? No.

Of course Trump blew it by not bringing these up, other than the 33k deleted e-mails. The good news for him is that he has 2 more debates to do this, and I don't think he will waste the opportunity again to hammer her on these issues..
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BDKJMU wrote:Not surprised about the bias of Holt & NBC. Look at the questions Trump was asked (ex tax returns). Did Holt ask Hillary about her mishandling & lying about classified e-mails? No. Did he ask her about Benghazi? No. Did he ask her about the Clinton Foudation and pay to play? No.

Of course Trump blew it by not bringing these up, other than the 33k deleted e-mails. The good news for him is that he has 2 more debates to do this, and I don't think he will waste the opportunity again to hammer her on these issues..
Oh yes. Trump will be classic attack dog Trump in debate 2. New kinder, gentler Trump didnt worK so well tonight.
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: Don't hold your breath. :coffee:
Look boys and Girls,
Trump is alot of things but "good with money" isn't in his top ten...

"Ultimately, in the early 1990s, Trump’s winning streak ground to a halt. The national economy started to slow down, and New York's economy stalled, causing Trump’s income streams to dwindle. Soon, he found it difficult to make the interest payments on the debt he'd accrued to finance his different businesses. Trump's annual loan payments were $300 million. The Trump Organization and its subsidiaries owed $9 billion, and Trump's personal debt totaled $975 million."

http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-rich/
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: Don't hold your breath. :coffee:
Look boys and Girls,
Trump is alot of things but "good with money" isn't in his top ten...

"Ultimately, in the early 1990s, Trump’s winning streak ground to a halt. The national economy started to slow down, and New York's economy stalled, causing Trump’s income streams to dwindle. Soon, he found it difficult to make the interest payments on the debt he'd accrued to finance his different businesses. Trump's annual loan payments were $300 million. The Trump Organization and its subsidiaries owed $9 billion, and Trump's personal debt totaled $975 million."

http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-rich/
Cool story, bro. :?

But what about...
Chizzang wrote:Wow...
Nobody in the world would argue Donald Trump is "good with money"

:rofl:

He inherited every penny and has lost more than he's ever made
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That damn Trump. He just keeps getting away with it......................lol
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93henfan wrote: CNN is about to post up a supposedly scientific poll in a few.

I'll wager it goes 59-41 Clinton +/- 5%.
And boom.
(CNN) Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch... ...according to a CNN/ORC Poll of voters...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/ ... index.html
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: Don't hold your breath. :coffee:
Look boys and Girls,
Trump is alot of things but "good with money" isn't in his top ten...

"Ultimately, in the early 1990s, Trump’s winning streak ground to a halt. The national economy started to slow down, and New York's economy stalled, causing Trump’s income streams to dwindle. Soon, he found it difficult to make the interest payments on the debt he'd accrued to finance his different businesses. Trump's annual loan payments were $300 million. The Trump Organization and its subsidiaries owed $9 billion, and Trump's personal debt totaled $975 million."

http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-rich/
:rofl: :rofl:
You're pathetic.
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93henfan wrote:CNN is stalking Trump after the debate. He's gotten at least another 15 minutes of debate in unopposed AFTER the debate. :lol:

Hillary nowhere to be found. Probably getting an IV and an enema.
Enemas are pointless with a colostomy bag. :coffee:
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93henfan wrote:
(CNN) Hillary Clinton was deemed the winner of Monday night's debate by 62% of voters who tuned in to watch... ...according to a CNN/HRC Poll of voters...
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/politics/ ... index.html
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Watching the debates is like watching an old episode of the Honeymooners. Waiting for Trump to say, one of these days Hilary, pow, straight to the moon.


The debates really showed how deceiving Clinton is. She is really try to baffle the American public with her Bullcrap. Trump has no substance. This leaves the only 2 viable candidates. As crazy as people say Johnson is, he's not as crazy as the dynamic duo. Stein is the other option. Both would get my vote over either one of the duo.
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Chizzang wrote:
Ibanez wrote: You think someone that's worth millions upon millions is bad with money? I see the bankruptcies differently. Often times they are used as a financial tools and don't really mean the individual or company is flat broke. These were businesses not him personally. And it was 4 times that his companies filed Chapter 11. Sometimes its not the person but outside factors. I would imagine the gaming industry isn't an easy one to survive in.


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Wow...
Nobody in the world would argue Donald Trump is "good with money"

:rofl:

He inherited every penny and has lost more than he's ever made
On the surface, the man is worth 100s of millions of dollars. I'm not sure you can honestly say he isn't good with money. You almost have to believe that he knows what he's doing if he was able to turn a million dollar loan into billions. Bad investments aside, the man has never been in bankruptcy (his companies have).
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Chizzang wrote:
Baldy wrote: Don't hold your breath. :coffee:
Look boys and Girls,
Trump is alot of things but "good with money" isn't in his top ten...

"Ultimately, in the early 1990s, Trump’s winning streak ground to a halt. The national economy started to slow down, and New York's economy stalled, causing Trump’s income streams to dwindle. Soon, he found it difficult to make the interest payments on the debt he'd accrued to finance his different businesses. Trump's annual loan payments were $300 million. The Trump Organization and its subsidiaries owed $9 billion, and Trump's personal debt totaled $975 million."

http://www.investopedia.com/updates/donald-trump-rich/
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I'll ask again...how can you lose at running a casino?
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kalm wrote:I'll ask again...how can you lose at running a casino?
By stealing it blind, of course.
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kalm wrote:I'll ask again...how can you lose at running a casino?
What the heck is wrong with you?
Have you ever been to Atlantic City? Do you know that Philadelphia now has casinos? Do you know where Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun are? Do you know that Maryland and Delaware have casinos?

It's called competition. Add to that, the bad economy and the Atlantic City corruption, casinos fail. Revel failed after one year there (that was a far worse business blunder than anything Trump did).
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Short review of what Trump said last night, but didn't have the capacity to make a point.

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And to surmise what Hilary said about Trump.

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http://www.cnn.com/

Check out CNN's top block right now and tell me they aren't biased.

"Clinton pokes,Trump takes the bait"
Clinton fact-checks Trump ...
... so does CNN's Reality Check team

Debate pro: Trump's very thin skin
The debate in under 2 minutes

Clinton: Trump's 'Miss Piggy' jibe

Trump: 'I'm smart' not to pay taxes

Conway: Trump doesn't believe climate change is man-made

Why was Trump sniffling so much?
Trump complains about debate mic

Trump repeatedly interrupts Clinton
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kalm wrote:I'll ask again...how can you lose at running a casino?
It was in NJ. isn't that enough.


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