The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

[93henfan]

Maybe because the inner cities are in shambles?

And if you go to a middle or upper class area the public schools are just fine. Strange how that works!

I guess you've never been to New Castle County, DE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desegrega ... C_Delaware

[Grizalltheway]

And if you go to a middle or upper class area the public schools are just fine. Strange how that works!

I guess you've never been to New Castle County, DE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desegrega ... C_Delaware

Took the Biden Express through Wilmington about 8 years ago.

Anyway, I'm genuinely curious if there's a concensus on the right as to how to fix the public education system. To me it seems like it's to just privatize it as much as possible and everything will sort itself out.

[93henfan]

I guess you've never been to New Castle County, DE.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desegrega ... C_Delaware

Took the Biden Express through Wilmington about 8 years ago.

Anyway, I'm genuinely curious if there's a concensus on the right as to how to fix the public education system. To me it seems like it's to just privatize it as much as possible and everything will sort itself out.

I'm an educator by way of my bachelor degree. I student-taught in the four districts I linked in the early 90s. Teaching in New Castle County was shocking to me. It was completely unlike the public schools downstate. They had sixth graders carrying beepers (and running enterprises in the school) and teachers afraid to say a word to them. The inmates were running the asylum upstate. Loud mouthed minorities (parents and students) basically ran everything by mob rule. The only white kids left were the ones who couldn't afford to get out.

Re your question, the big push in the early 90s, driven by liberals, was standardization. They thought that standards were the answer. This ultimately led to the reviled Common Core curriculum of today, which serves nobody. I have tried doing common core-inspired homework with my sons and it even confuses me frequently. It's just garbage.

So how do you fix education? I think getting the federal government out of it is the first step.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Obviously you go to the inner cities and build incredible technologically advanced schools that they can burn down and smash the windows out of. This has to be step one to prove we are serious!!!


Now, tip over that Karma and light it on fire

[YoUDeeMan]

Maybe because the inner cities are in shambles?

And if you go to a middle or upper class area the public schools are just fine. Strange how that works!

There are some solid public schools in cities, and in shitty areas...and the relationship as to which schools are good has far more to do with parental involvement than with income.

But yeah, keep going with income as the primary determining factor.

[93henfan]

And if you go to a middle or upper class area the public schools are just fine. Strange how that works!

There are some solid public schools in cities, and in shitty areas...and the relationship as to which schools are good has far more to do with parental involvement than with income.

But yeah, keep going with income as the primary determining factor.

Great point, and I didn't add the disclaimer: Upstate Delaware schools have evolved significantly in the 25 years since I did my student teaching up there. I hope it has been for the better. A snapshot of NCC public schools in 1990 was just frightening. It was the major reason I didn't go into teaching.

[Grizalltheway]

And if you go to a middle or upper class area the public schools are just fine. Strange how that works!

There are some solid public schools in cities, and in shitty areas...and the relationship as to which schools are good has far more to do with parental involvement than with income.

But yeah, keep going with income as the primary determining factor.

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

And I certainly don't disagree with the bolded part, but again, better-educated parents with higher incomes tend to be more involved with and care more about their kids' education.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Money doesnt make good schools

[kalm]

There are some solid public schools in cities, and in shitty areas...and the relationship as to which schools are good has far more to do with parental involvement than with income.

But yeah, keep going with income as the primary determining factor.

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

And I certainly don't disagree with the bolded part, but again, better-educated parents with higher incomes tend to be more involved with and care more about their kids' education.

Wealthier districts also tend to pass more levies and bonds.

But yes, simply throwing money at school district operations doesn't equal success. Parenting is a huge issue.

[CAA Flagship]

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

And I certainly don't disagree with the bolded part, but again, better-educated parents with higher incomes tend to be more involved with and care more about their kids' education.

Wealthier districts also tend to pass more levies and bonds.

But yes, simply throwing money at school district operations doesn't equal success. Parenting is a huge issue.

They keep up the demand for whiskey and rye.

[CAA Flagship]

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/pope-ill-jud ... tml?ref=gs

[YoUDeeMan]

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

And I certainly don't disagree with the bolded part, but again, better-educated parents with higher incomes tend to be more involved with and care more about their kids' education.

Wealthier districts also tend to pass more levies and bonds.

But yes, simply throwing money at school district operations doesn't equal success. Parenting is a huge issue.

You and GrizHalfWit are suffering from the same ignorance.

Sure, some districts have more money and some don't...but when push comes to shove, the money doesn't matter.

Parenting is THE issue.

Money is not in the top 5...nor is race.

Having a mentor is second. Plenty of kids have come out of poverty because of a mentor (rich or poor mentor).

Having a goal is among the top reasons for success in school. That can be independent of a mentor or a parent.

There are a boatload (yeah, that works...plenty of poor immigrants have navigated the pitfalls of public education) of reasons for getting a good education. They simply have a different value system.

My wife teaches kids in a very diverse environment. Tons of dirt poor immigrants...and a migratory set of students as well. Guess, on average, who succeeds and guess who fails?



Money is a good distance down the list.

Parenting...and having good values, is top.

Anyone who says differently is an ignorant (and I mean that in every sense of the word) fool who is simply looking for easy answers.

[HI54UNI]

There are some solid public schools in cities, and in shitty areas...and the relationship as to which schools are good has far more to do with parental involvement than with income.

But yeah, keep going with income as the primary determining factor.

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

That may or may not be true, depending on the state. Many states have school equity laws to equalize funding for "rich" and "poor" districts.

[YoUDeeMan]

In general districts with larger tax bases are going to have better-funded schools, are they not?

That may or may not be true, depending on the state. Many states have school equity laws to equalize funding for "rich" and "poor" districts.

Don't pay attention to GrizHalfwit and kalm...they know only what they want to know.

And, just to expand everyone's knowledge...there are a growing number of idiots in Delaware that are demanding that equality necessitates that MORE money per student go towards the Black (of course, they say poor schools instead of Black schools) schools than the White schools and that White schools should be forced to do more with less money than Black schools. When questioned about the rational, the supporters immediately, despite their insistence that it is an economic model, say that you are a racist if you disagree.

So yeah...they want suburban taxpayers to actually vote to fund inner city schools with more money per student than they are taxed for their own suburban students...in the name of equality.



Yeah, in other words...support dumb fvcks who pop out kids and ignore them in order to get extra welfare benefits...and deny your own children, who you are home raising, and working a job to do that, so that the inner city kid, whose parents are absent and don't pay taxes, can compete with your kid.



JFC...and there are some dumb shits, besides the minorities that want that money...who are mostly lonely, ugly, White, and sometimes gay (so they don't have kids, but feel the sting of rejection), that vote to support that fvcked up idea of equality.

But, of course, the peeps in Montana chime in and say that stuff is not possible.

[Skjellyfetti]

Cluck's multi-paragraph rants are underappreciated. JSO's are at least occasionally coherent...

[YoUDeeMan]

Cluck's multi-paragraph rants are underappreciated. JSO's are at least occasionally coherent...

Thanks! Not many appreciate the ugly truth.

[BDKJMU]

"Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker, is considering setting up a display-making plant in the United States in an investment that would exceed $7 billion....

.... An investment for a display plant would exceed $7 billion and could create about 30,000-50,000 jobs...."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/foxconn-ceo- ... nance.html

[kalm]

"Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker, is considering setting up a display-making plant in the United States in an investment that would exceed $7 billion....

.... An investment for a display plant would exceed $7 billion and could create about 30,000-50,000 jobs...."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/foxconn-ceo- ... nance.html

Complete with suicide catch nets?

[Gil Dobie]

Cluck's multi-paragraph rants are underappreciated. JSO's are at least occasionally coherent...

[89Hen]

"Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker, is considering setting up a display-making plant in the United States in an investment that would exceed $7 billion....

.... An investment for a display plant would exceed $7 billion and could create about 30,000-50,000 jobs...."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/foxconn-ceo- ... nance.html

Complete with suicide catch nets?

[YoUDeeMan]

"Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker, is considering setting up a display-making plant in the United States in an investment that would exceed $7 billion....

.... An investment for a display plant would exceed $7 billion and could create about 30,000-50,000 jobs...."
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/foxconn-ceo- ... nance.html

Complete with suicide catch nets?

They're building the plant on the Golden Gate Bridge?

[bandl]

Complete with suicide catch nets?

They're building the plant on the Golden Gate Bridge?

No, on the William & Mary campus

[CAA Flagship]

They're building the plant on the Golden Gate Bridge?

No, on the William & Mary campus

[kalm]

No, on the William & Mary campus

I don't get it. Is there a high suicide rate at Bill and Mary or are they high skilled, wage workers?

[Skjellyfetti]

Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark



Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.