The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
I hadn't given it much thought -

but now that you ask, I do see similarities... both must by design devolve into authoritarianism - both have government in control of industry, which inevitably leads to one or two people in complete control

but I was actually reveling in thinking, "I bet klam will be the first to pounce on this" and boy did you deliver


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Of course i replied to it. I find it interesting (as I mentioned)

And I also acknowledged similarities too. Without the right checks and balances (co-equal branches, representative democracy, etc) both CAN devolve into authoritarianism. I’m not sure that they must.

And capitalism can do the same without some regulation. Finish a game of monopoly and see how many winners you have.
More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner.

In other words, kind of like the mixed economy we have now. :coffee:
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Re: The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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Ivytalk wrote: More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner...
This is how I know you've never played Monopoly. The only way Monopoly ends is like this:

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner...
This is how I know you've never played Monopoly. The only way Monopoly ends is like this:

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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ivytalk wrote: More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner...
This is how I know you've never played Monopoly. The only way Monopoly ends is like this:

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I can't get it from here but Dane Cook (he's a comedian, Col, you might not like that he says bad words) has a pretty good joke about the game. Look it up.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/opinions ... index.html

This is from CNN, and literally reads like something you'd see on Infowars in the '00s before it became a cross between Breitbart and Natural News.
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Pwns wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/opinions ... index.html

This is from CNN, and literally reads like something you'd see on Infowars in the '00s before it became a cross between Breitbart and Natural News.
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Ivytalk wrote:More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner.
We actually played last week and 89Jr didn't talk to me for a day afterward... until we played Risk the next night and I once again crushed his psyche and he was silent for another day. 8-)
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kalm wrote:
What does pure capitalism devolve to?

(Since we're talking about the devolution of pure socialism)
A fascinating question...
We're watching it happen kind of

There used to be two dozen major Airlines
There used to be two dozen major banks
There used to be two dozen major cable companies
and on and on...

There used to be wide spread competition...

But in Capitalism the government slowly favors monopoly
instead of working for the citizen

In the end there is one company that owns everything
and it tells the Federal Government what to do and what wars to fight etc...

It looks exactly like the end of Communism - EXACTLY
They are 180 degree opposites that close the circle in the end to become the same thing


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Chizzang wrote:
kalm wrote:
What does pure capitalism devolve to?

(Since we're talking about the devolution of pure socialism)
A fascinating question...
We're watching it happen kind of

There used to be two dozen major Airlines
There used to be two dozen major banks
There used to be two dozen major cable companies
and on and on...

There used to be wide spread competition...

But in Capitalism the government slowly favors monopoly
instead of working for the citizen

In the end there is one company that owns everything
and it tells the Federal Government what to do and what wars to fight etc...

It looks exactly like the end of Communism - EXACTLY
They are 180 degree opposites that close the circle in the end to become the same thing


:coffee:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... ss/514358/
Why do you hate the consumer's benefit through economies of scale?
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Ivytalk wrote: More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner...
This is how I know you've never played Monopoly. The only way Monopoly ends is like this:

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Well played! :lol:

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CAA Flagship wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
A fascinating question...
We're watching it happen kind of

There used to be two dozen major Airlines
There used to be two dozen major banks
There used to be two dozen major cable companies
and on and on...

There used to be wide spread competition...

But in Capitalism the government slowly favors monopoly
instead of working for the citizen

In the end there is one company that owns everything
and it tells the Federal Government what to do and what wars to fight etc...

It looks exactly like the end of Communism - EXACTLY
They are 180 degree opposites that close the circle in the end to become the same thing


:coffee:

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... ss/514358/
Why do you hate the consumer's benefit through economies of scale?
Consumers benefit through competition
Corporations benefit through economies of scale
as they rarely pass on the savings to the consumer in a monopoly - and why would they..? (see Comcast)
Stock value is the only thing that matters not consumer value in a monopoly
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AZGrizFan wrote:
Pwns wrote:https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/23/opinions ... index.html

This is from CNN, and literally reads like something you'd see on Infowars in the '00s before it became a cross between Breitbart and Natural News.
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Thank god the Democrats are violent and rigid and know how to fight back. :lol:
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89Hen wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:More often, the game of Monopoly ends in a boring draw, with players holding widely scattered properties, a modest amount of cash, and being too pussyfied to engage in the aggressive property trades that would produce a clear winner.
We actually played last week and 89Jr didn't talk to me for a day afterward... until we played Risk the next night and I once again crushed his psyche and he was silent for another day. 8-)
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kalm wrote:
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Thank god the Democrats are violent and rigid and know how to fight back. :lol:
Don't put words in my mouth. I said they're violent and rigid. I said nothing about them knowing how to fight back. :tothehand:

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Chizzang wrote:
CAA Flagship wrote: Why do you hate the consumer's benefit through economies of scale?
Consumers benefit through competition
Corporations benefit through economies of scale
as they rarely pass on the savings to the consumer in a monopoly - and why would they..? (see Comcast)
Stock value is the only thing that matters not consumer value in a monopoly
Questions:
1) How do corporations like Comcast become a monopoly? Is it by beating out the competition or does it more typically require government intervention? Should we blame Comcast or our governments?

2) From a consumer perspective, how are monopolies different from a state controlled economy (lefties' wet dream)?
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UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Consumers benefit through competition
Corporations benefit through economies of scale
as they rarely pass on the savings to the consumer in a monopoly - and why would they..? (see Comcast)
Stock value is the only thing that matters not consumer value in a monopoly
Questions:
1) How do corporations like Comcast become a monopoly? Is it by beating out the competition or does it more typically require government intervention? Should we blame Comcast or our governments?

2) From a consumer perspective, how are monopolies different from a state controlled economy (lefties' wet dream)?

1). Yes

2). Government can certainly be the biggest monopoly of all especially if the power of elections is diminished or in a non-democratic system.
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Ivytalk wrote:Is that your living room?
No, my home has more Obama Hope posters, Nancy Pelosi for President stickers, and Che Guevara art.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Is that your living room?
No, my home has more Obama Hope posters, Nancy Pelosi for President stickers, and Che Guevara art.
Do your parents let you put up all that stuff in their house, or just in your part of the basement? :rofl:
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ivytalk wrote:Is that your living room?
No, my home has more Obama Hope posters, Nancy Pelosi for President stickers, and Che Guevara art.
I KNOW that's your "Cars" toy.... :geek:
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UNI88 wrote:
Chizzang wrote:
Consumers benefit through competition
Corporations benefit through economies of scale
as they rarely pass on the savings to the consumer in a monopoly - and why would they..? (see Comcast)
Stock value is the only thing that matters not consumer value in a monopoly
Questions:
1) How do corporations like Comcast become a monopoly? Is it by beating out the competition or does it more typically require government intervention? Should we blame Comcast or our governments?

2) From a consumer perspective, how are monopolies different from a state controlled economy (lefties' wet dream)?
Because in 1995 our Federal Government fell for the oldest trick in the book...
That's how Comcast got where it got
See: Title 3 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996

and get back to me...
I would laugh were what followed not the single largest example of corporate fraud
of all time perpetrated on the American tax payer

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GannonFan wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: No, my home has more Obama Hope posters, Nancy Pelosi for President stickers, and Che Guevara art.
Do your parents let you put up all that stuff in their house, or just in your part of the basement? :rofl:
:lol:

My parents were always clear: once you found a full-time job, you're moving out. It took me a year to find a job after college and they made my pay rent during that time. Same with my sister. Hell when her boyfriend went to prison, she wanted to move back in because she was feeling down. They said no. :lol:

They've always been about promoting independence.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Do your parents let you put up all that stuff in their house, or just in your part of the basement? :rofl:
:lol:

My parents were always clear: once you found a full-time job, you're moving out. It took me a year to find a job after college and they made my pay rent during that time. Same with my sister. Hell when her boyfriend went to prison, she wanted to move back in because she was feeling down. They said no. :lol:

They've always been about promoting independence.
bomb builder? Or driver?
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∞∞∞ wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Do your parents let you put up all that stuff in their house, or just in your part of the basement? :rofl:
:lol:

My parents were always clear: once you found a full-time job, you're moving out. It took me a year to find a job after college and they made my pay rent during that time. Same with my sister. Hell when her boyfriend went to prison, she wanted to move back in because she was feeling down. They said no. :lol:

They've always been about promoting independence.
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Hey. No fair dropping that bomb and not giving details. :pissed: :willybs: :eatu:
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No details; it'd be too easy to track my sister down. But it basically deals with gov't corruption/kickbacks.

He's a good dude but did something very, very stupid.
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So how long is he in for?
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