Colin Kaepernick

[CAA Flagship]

Yes. He has the right to be wrong. This was established early in this thread by Col Hogan.

Right,
I would guess he would have no problem with the following?

If you let a young child eat a peanut butter sandwich when they are allergic to it?
If you drop a bowling ball off a 3rd story roof on to someone's head?
If you shoot a load of hiv sperm onto a innocent woman?
If you run your bicycle into a blind person?

A right to be "wrong" about what's right, or a right to be "wrong" about what's wrong ... just don't try to be "right" about what's right, and don't try to be "right" about what's wrong? ... I think I kinda get it now.

They have a right to be "wrong" buy we don't have a right to be "right"?

Right.

[kalm]

Yes. He has the right to be wrong. This was established early in this thread by Col Hogan.

Right,
I would guess he would have no problem with the following?

If you let a young child eat a peanut butter sandwich when they are allergic to it?
If you drop a bowling ball off a 3rd story roof on to someone's head?
If you shoot a load of hiv sperm onto a innocent woman?
If you run your bicycle into a blind person?

A right to be "wrong" about what's right, or a right to be "wrong" about what's wrong ... just don't try to be "right" about what's right, and don't try to be "right" about what's wrong? ... I think I kinda get it now.

They have a right to be "wrong" buy we don't have a right to be "right"?


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You are doing a rather fine job of making Slycat's earlier point.

[Chizzang]

You can tell the size of a man by the size of things that upset him...

[Ibanez]

I will get y'all a safe space. You can share.

All this PC bullcrap and then people lose their minds over Kapernick expressing his freedoms. For all the anit PC that conservatives have been talking, they sure lost their minds over this one. Do I agree with what he is doing? No. But he as the right to do it. Sure people have the to trash him. But those that call him unamerican or that he should leave the country or anything like that are the true people that hate freedom. What he is doing is very American.

As others have said, it's funny that everyone told blacks to protest peacefully when they rioted after police shootings. Kapernick does just that and people really lose their minds.

The NFL will need to put trigger warnings up before games reminding viewers that some players may be protesting in a manner that they do agree with.

Let me get this straight,

1: black stuff matters protests in the streets over a few innocent (?)blacks being killed (possible manslaughter at most?), some of the more radical black stuff matters people intentionally "shoot to kill" innocent policemen (definately first degree murder).

2: kapernick identifies with and declares alliance to the black stuff matters folk who are intentional murders and/or accomplices after the fact, and publicly condemns tens of thousands of innocent police officers who are true victims of this travisty.

And we have come to believe that this nonsense is protected in the Constitution that was set up to preserve protect and defend "we the American people" of the "United States of America"?

I am neither a right winger nor a lefty, but this thought just makes my head spin.

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It makes your head spin because you're a moron. Colin has every right to be wrong. Like it or not. What's it say about you, when you think someones freedom of speech has to equate your own? Moron.

[Ibanez]

Yes. He has the right to be wrong. This was established early in this thread by Col Hogan.

Right,
I would guess he would have no problem with the following?

If you let a young child eat a peanut butter sandwich when they are allergic to it?
If you drop a bowling ball off a 3rd story roof on to someone's head?
If you shoot a load of hiv sperm onto a innocent woman?
If you run your bicycle into a blind person?

A right to be "wrong" about what's right, or a right to be "wrong" about what's wrong ... just don't try to be "right" about what's right, and don't try to be "right" about what's wrong? ... I think I kinda get it now.

They have a right to be "wrong" buy we don't have a right to be "right"?


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What? How are you equating not standing for a song with negligence and murder?

He has the write to voice his opinions just as much as you do. What's funny to me, is that you are so butthurt about it.

[89Hen]

Do I have a right to write my wrong?

[Bisonfanatical]

Right,
I would guess he would have no problem with the following?

If you let a young child eat a peanut butter sandwich when they are allergic to it?
If you drop a bowling ball off a 3rd story roof on to someone's head?
If you shoot a load of hiv sperm onto a innocent woman?
If you run your bicycle into a blind person?

A right to be "wrong" about what's right, or a right to be "wrong" about what's wrong ... just don't try to be "right" about what's right, and don't try to be "right" about what's wrong? ... I think I kinda get it now.

They have a right to be "wrong" buy we don't have a right to be "right"?


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What? How are you equating not standing for a song with negligence and murder?

He has the write to voice his opinions just as much as you do. What's funny to me, is that you are so butthurt about it.

I can see that intelligent conversation with you is impossible, some of us try to express our views without resorting to trash talk. You ... not so much.

Supporting civil disobedience is not what I am referring to, even though that nonsense has been promoted to push civil unrest for the last 40 years at least.

Black stuff matters is just another politically motivated group trying to use "extremely" isolated instances of "possible" unjustice and circumvent the laws of the land by promoting uprisings.

Now I am not sure what you view as murder but I view the shooting of innocent cops as murder ... and those who defend it as accessories after the fact in a murder case.

Time for more of your name calling?




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[Bisonfanatical]

Do I have a right to write my wrong?

Yes

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[dal4018]

As you all can see Kaepernick's influence is being felt all over the sports world even in high school.

[89Hen]

As you all can see Kaepernick's influence is being felt all over the sports world even in high school.

And in many places, coaches are using it as a coaching tool to show their players how wrong he is.

[Bisonfanatical]

It might be his influence in part, but there are those who jump at a chance to be disruptive given any chance ... think from the "Rodney king" riots to the present.
I don't think he is a "leader", just a more famous "follower"?

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[dal4018]

As you all can see Kaepernick's influence is being felt all over the sports world even in high school.

And in many places, coaches are using it as a coaching tool to show their players how wrong he is.

Speaking out against police brutality makes him wrong them all who follow him are equally wrong.Those coaches who are against him must have KKK affiliations.

[dal4018]

It might be his influence in part, but there are those who jump at a chance to be disruptive given any chance ... think from the "Rodney king" riots to the present.
I don't think he is a "leader", just a more famous "follower"?

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Once again those so-called riots were black ppl showing natural anger towards the LAPD and their violent tendencies at black ppl.Ice T wrote a song that got him,some attention as was the case with NWA entitled "Cop Killers" who ever killed those cops in Dallas might have been listening to it for inspiration.

[89Hen]

Speaking out against police brutality makes him wrong them all who follow him are equally wrong.Those coaches who are against him must have KKK affiliations.

Whiffffff You don't get it.

[dal4018]

Speaking out against police brutality makes him wrong them all who follow him are equally wrong.Those coaches who are against him must have KKK affiliations.

Whiffffff You don't get it.

Yes I do get it the lives of black ppl are considered expendable by someone like you but ppl like you complain about white ppl are under attack where is the evidence and who is doing it that is the more important question????

[89Hen]

Whiffffff You don't get it.

Yes I do get it the lives of black ppl are considered expendable by someone like you but ppl like you complain about white ppl are under attack where is the evidence and who is doing it that is the more important question????

STRIKE TWOOOO

[HI54UNI]

[Bisonfanatical]

It might be his influence in part, but there are those who jump at a chance to be disruptive given any chance ... think from the "Rodney king" riots to the present.
I don't think he is a "leader", just a more famous "follower"?

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Once again those so-called riots were black ppl showing natural anger (hatred) towards the LAPD ( white authority in general) and their violent tendencies at black ppl (lol at this). Ice T (natural born leader?) wrote a song that got him,some attention as was the case with NWA entitled "Cop Killers" who ever killed those cops in Dallas might have been listening to it for inspiration.

Fixed it for you

I don't think violent killers (of any color) need much "inspiration" any more than racially motivated trouble makers do.
Do you REALLY think any thing good comes from anything bad?
we will see what we will see.

One of the few black natural born leaders I have seen in my 60 years is the great MLK, but the questionable people who have taken what he promoted, (and I supported) who came after him leave a lot to be desired. They have taken a necessary movement and twisted it into a self promoting, race baiting, money making, politically motivated way to promote racial tension and discord among the people of the USA.

smh

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[89Hen]

dal, here is a good read...

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/08/259715-s ... nthem-let/

Putting the merits of his grievances aside, I do not agree with Colin Kaepernick’s method of protest. I personally feel that as a man who has reaped some big rewards of growing up here in America and being paid millions to play the game he loves, Kaepernick probably could have found a more effective method to protest and create change. But hey, it’s America, Colin, and you protested in the manner you saw best fit. And in a strange twist of irony, you celebrated what makes America wonderful while calling out her flaws.

[Chizzang]

dal, here is a good read...

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/08/259715-s ... nthem-let/

Putting the merits of his grievances aside, I do not agree with Colin Kaepernick’s method of protest. I personally feel that as a man who has reaped some big rewards of growing up here in America and being paid millions to play the game he loves, Kaepernick probably could have found a more effective method to protest and create change. But hey, it’s America, Colin, and you protested in the manner you saw best fit. And in a strange twist of irony, you celebrated what makes America wonderful while calling out her flaws.

The real question is:
Was there really any other way that would have been even 1/2 as effective for him..?
He found the absolute 100% hit-rate way to make his point

and simultaneously
Offend those who were already offended and just waiting to be "more offended"

In the end
Colin Kaepernick succeeded in accomplishing his first step goal

[Ibanez]

Do I have a Wright to write my wrong?

FIFY

[Ibanez]

What? How are you equating not standing for a song with negligence and murder?

He has the write to voice his opinions just as much as you do. What's funny to me, is that you are so butthurt about it.

I can see that intelligent conversation with you is impossible, some of us try to express our views without resorting to trash talk. You ... not so much.

Supporting civil disobedience is not what I am referring to, even though that nonsense has been promoted to push civil unrest for the last 40 years at least.

Black stuff matters is just another politically motivated group trying to use "extremely" isolated instances of "possible" unjustice and circumvent the laws of the land by promoting uprisings.

Now I am not sure what you view as murder but I view the shooting of innocent cops as murder ... and those who defend it as accessories after the fact in a murder case.

Time for more of your name calling?




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I'm all for intelligent conversation. But when you try to equate murder (Dropping a bowling ball on someone) or negligence (feeding a kid with a nut allergy peanut butter) to someone not standing up for a song, I assume you're too stupid to hold an intelligent conversation. Or at a minimum, you've taken AzGrizFans online course in Analogy Development. That's a bit of a non starter.

If you can't handle the trash talk, you need to leave. Grow a pair. This is the internet.

[Ibanez]

As you all can see Kaepernick's influence is being felt all over the sports world even in high school.

And in many places, coaches are using it as a coaching tool to show their players how wrong he is.

Is it really wrong him to not stand up during a song? He's allowed to peacefully protest. What's wrong with that?

[Bisonfanatical]

Ibanez ... this is about someone not standing up for a song "in support of" a movement that is helping to facilitate the murder of innocent cops.

It is that simple my friend.

As for the junior high school style trash talking points from you ... what ever makes you smile.



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[89Hen]

And in many places, coaches are using it as a coaching tool to show their players how wrong he is.

Is it really wrong him to not stand up during a song? He's allowed to peacefully protest. What's wrong with that?

It's not "a song".