The Official "Making America Great Again" Thread

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Skjellyfetti wrote:Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark



Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark



Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.
Meh. So his administration approved a sale that the Obama administration began. No big deal.
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark



Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.
Just $1B? What, did we sell them the tires only off of an F-35? Where's kleannie?
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Ibanez wrote: Meh. So his administration approved a sale that the Obama administration began. No big deal.
You're right. It's just business as usual.
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Just $1B?
Only on his third day in office. Just wait. There will be more

Saudi Arabia now has former Republican chair of the House Armed Services Committee lobbying for them. :lol:

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Skjellyfetti wrote:You're right. It's just business as usual.

And, Saudi Arabia now has former Republican chair of the House Armed Services Committee lobbying for them. :lol:

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:thumb: The sales aren't final, btw.
The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for 74K Persistent Threat Detection System (PTDS) Aerostats and related equipment, support, and training. The estimated cost is $525 million. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale today.
Trump can still pull the plug on it.


He won't. I doubt it. I've worked in FMS and with the Saudi's over radio equipment. They have a knack for cancelling sales at the last minute only to restart them....then to cancel again....then restart them. It's a pattern. It means more trips to America (which they love) and more cheap, goods.
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When you make bad nuclear agreements with nihilistic theocracies it stands to reason you're going to have to make arms deals with your "allies" who happen to be their neighbors.

You would think causal relationships in foreign policy would be easy to understand but apparently they are something akin to string theory for most people.
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CID1990 wrote:When you make bad nuclear agreements with nihilistic theocracies it stands to reason you're going to have to make arms deals with your "allies" who happen to be their neighbors.

You would think causal relationships in foreign policy would be easy to understand but apparently they are something akin to string theory for most people.
So sell weapons to theocratic monarchies whose vassals provide financial support to nihilistic caliphates (among other terrorist groups and regimes) who are also fighting against said nihilistic theocracy.

I can't see where the confusion is either...
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Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark

Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.
Meh. So his administration approved a sale that the Obama administration began. No big deal.
Exactly. And the key word here is SALES. If had simply given them the stuff that would be a different story. The rag heads can certainly afford to pay for it.
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BDKJMU wrote: Exactly. And the key word here is SALES. If had simply given them the stuff that would be a different story. The rag heads can certainly afford to pay for it.
:lol:

It was always SALES.

The Obama administration ramped up SALES of weapons to Saudi Arabia and was (rightly, imo) criticized for it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-s ... SKCN11D2JQ

Now, it just meets with a shrug of the shoulders and... "oh well, at least we didn't give them away."

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BDKJMU wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Meh. So his administration approved a sale that the Obama administration began. No big deal.
Exactly. And the key word here is SALES. If had simply given them the stuff that would be a different story. The rag heads can certainly afford to pay for it.
Actually, the keyword isn't "Sales," at least IMO. The keyword is "possible." :thumb: :thumb:
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kalm wrote:
CID1990 wrote:When you make bad nuclear agreements with nihilistic theocracies it stands to reason you're going to have to make arms deals with your "allies" who happen to be their neighbors.

You would think causal relationships in foreign policy would be easy to understand but apparently they are something akin to string theory for most people.
So sell weapons to theocratic monarchies whose vassals provide financial support to nihilistic caliphates (among other terrorist groups and regimes) who are also fighting against said nihilistic theocracy.

I can't see where the confusion is either...
In a few years the retrospectives on "how we got here" in terms of strife in the Middle East will largely be attributable to the nuclear deal with Iran. What is happening now is a minor brush fire in comparison.

The Sunni-Shite centuries old civil war is going to get very interesting
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Does Bush's nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia have a role, or no?
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Skjellyfetti wrote:Does Bush's nuclear deal with Saudi Arabia have a role, or no?

I don't know.... is Saudi Arabia actively developing nukes? Were they doing so prior to Iran beating the drum?
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Interesting, i don't recall a similar site existing from 2009-2017.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/pol ... -promises/
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kalm wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:Over $1B in arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait approved by the Trump State Department.

http://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/ar ... D=ref_fark



Yes, this is pretty standard. But, Trump made a YUGE deal about this during the campaign.
This won't make Cluck happy at all.
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Uh...no. Fvck the Saudis. If they don't get their nut jobs under control, turn on the self destruct mechanisms in each of those tanks/planes/missiles. :twisted:

Seriously...no arms to Saudi Arabia until they stop exporting Wahhabi sauce.
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Ibanez wrote:Interesting, i don't recall a similar site existing from 2009-2017.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/pol ... -promises/
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Left wing media...they just can't help themselves. :rofl:
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I like where Trump is going with this voter fraud insistence. 3.5 million illegal ballots? We obviously need a recount...maybe a special election...
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kalm wrote:I like where Trump is going with this voter fraud insistence. 3.5 million illegal ballots? We obviously need a recount...maybe a special election...
That's the thing - the left already claimed the same thing with the backing of the recounts that Jill Stein pushed for. Granted, they took it from the viewpoint of undercounts or other vote alteration, but the message was the same - they declared shenanigans. So now the left is reaching for something when they constantly said before this past one that elections are never suspect and there is never fraud, period, and now they appear to be agreeing, sort of, with Trump.

Say what you will about Trump, and I'm glad I didn't vote for him, but he can work the media and social networks like a fiddle. Everytime it looks like he's about to step in something he finds a way to work it to his advantage. The GOP found it out, Hillary found it out, and now the media is finding it out. Uncanny. :rofl:
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Ibanez wrote:Interesting, i don't recall a similar site existing from 2009-2017.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/pol ... -promises/
Well, one existed. It was called the "Obameter"
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote:Interesting, i don't recall a similar site existing from 2009-2017.

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/pol ... -promises/
Well, one existed. It was called the "Obameter"
Faux News?


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Ibanez wrote:
Skjellyfetti wrote:
Well, one existed. It was called the "Obameter"
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Skjellyfetti wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Faux News?


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The source of the most salacious allegations in the uncorroborated dossier about President Trump and the Russians is a onetime Russian government translator, according to a person familiar with the raw intelligence provided to the FBI.

Sergei Millian, a naturalized American citizen who most recently headed a group called the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce, said he was in Moscow at the time the dossier accuses the billionaire American businessman of being involved with Russian prostitutes. Millian claims to have helped Trump recruit Russian investors, and he posted pictures of himself attending several black tie events during last week’s inauguration.

He is the man, the people familiar with the unredacted dossier tell ABC News, who may have unwittingly described Trump’s alleged tryst, during a conversation with someone who was secretly reporting to Christopher Steele.

Steele, a former British MI-6 intelligence officer, collected much of the information in a dossier funded by Trump’s political opponents that was provided to the FBI and circulated in media and intelligence circles for months before the 2016 election.

Millian did not answer questions put to him by ABC News over the weekend and again Tuesday.

While the published dossier never names Millian, a version provided to the FBI included Millian’s name as a source, according to someone who has seen the version given to the FBI.

Millian’s place in the long-running chatter about Trump’s purported ties to Russia has been reported in bits and pieces by various news outlets for months.

The assertion that he was the source of the document’s unsubstantiated (and refuted) claims about a Russian government videotape of Trump in a compromising position was first reported online Tuesday by The Wall Street Journal. The Journal quoted Millian saying in an email that the information in the dossier was “fake news (created by sick minds)” and was “an attempt to distract the future president from real work.”

Millian has said little publicly in recent weeks. But in July he told ABC News in an exclusive interview that he was well connected with both Trump and the Kremlin.

“I’m one of those very few people who have insider knowledge of Kremlin politics who has the ability to understand the Russian mentality and who has been able to successfully integrate in American society,” Millian said.

In recent weeks, Trump’s team has said that Millian is not who is says he is — that he never worked in any capacity with the Trump Organization and he had to be warned to stop describing himself as a Trump-approved broker. Millian for months granted interviews in Russian media making that claim. And he did so during his interview with ABC News in July 2016.
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Cluck U wrote:
kalm wrote:
This won't make Cluck happy at all.
Yea, EXPORTS! More U.S. jobs! :nod:

Fvck yeah! :thumb:


















Uh...no. Fvck the Saudis. If they don't get their nut jobs under control, turn on the self destruct mechanisms in each of those tanks/planes/missiles. :twisted:

Seriously...no arms to Saudi Arabia until they stop exporting Wahhabi sauce.
We don't need their oil anymore. Withdraw completely from the mid-east and let them settle things amongst themselves. Let China protect China's oil.
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kalm wrote:I like where Trump is going with this voter fraud insistence. 3.5 million illegal ballots? We obviously need a recount...maybe a special election...
That's the thing - the left already claimed the same thing with the backing of the recounts that Jill Stein pushed for. Granted, they took it from the viewpoint of undercounts or other vote alteration, but the message was the same - they declared shenanigans. So now the left is reaching for something when they constantly said before this past one that elections are never suspect and there is never fraud, period, and now they appear to be agreeing, sort of, with Trump.

Say what you will about Trump, and I'm glad I didn't vote for him, but he can work the media and social networks like a fiddle. Everytime it looks like he's about to step in something he finds a way to work it to his advantage. The GOP found it out, Hillary found it out, and now the media is finding it out. Uncanny. :rofl:
Really ? What I heard is that voter fraud is a very minor problem and that the real problem is voter suppression.
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