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A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
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Didn't realize this until yesterday, but the Senate Republicans get to run the trial. Didn't know they can subpoena anyone for under oath testimony. Lot's of Russian collusion players to bring in. Wonder how far that is going to go? Dems better take over the Senate.Ivytalk wrote:A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
Cocaine Mitch said he would start the trial right away if Pelosi goes for impeachment. Dems are going to have to wait until next term and hope they win the Senate, or they got nothin.
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It seems the intelligence community just last month secretly nixed the requirement that whistleblowers must have direct knowledge of wrongdoing before they can file a complaint. Now, hearsay evidence is permitted.
This must be a coincidence. The timing isn't suspect at all and we know the intelligence community would never work with establishment members of Congress to undermine a POTUS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
This must be a coincidence. The timing isn't suspect at all and we know the intelligence community would never work with establishment members of Congress to undermine a POTUS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
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And WHOOSH! The irony goes right over the head of another Trump supporter. We need dignity from our politicians!SeattleGriz wrote:He currently serves as the chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He shouldn't be parodying when the transcripts have been released...even if they weren't. To make up a conversation, that you actually believed, shows how bad it really was.kalm wrote:
Oops...I was half listening while doing some work and I guess it was actually a parody that I took literally(along with some conks, apparently
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https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-pa ... ll-1461579
So I guess your outrage here is justified. How dare a politician stoop to this level! Governmenting is dignified serious business!
BTW, there's a difference between parody and making something up out of whole cloth.
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According to Mike Murphy there are 30 Republican yes votes on impeachment in the Senate. Jeff Flake says there are 35.Ivytalk wrote:A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
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Or good thick Owens hot sausage patties under the eggs...Winterborn wrote:And add a little bacon.kalm wrote:
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Well, if Jeff Flake says it ......kalm wrote:According to Mike Murphy there are 30 Republican yes votes on impeachment in the Senate. Jeff Flake says there are 35.Ivytalk wrote:A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
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Do you really think it was meant to be parody. That fucker didn't play the parody card until after he got scorched on social media. He thought it would be taken as fact after being reported by CNN and MSNBC. The Washington scum believe Americans are so stupid that nobody would realize he was full of shit. That's just how out of touch and arrogant they are.SeattleGriz wrote:He currently serves as the chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He shouldn't be parodying when the transcripts have been released...even if they weren't. To make up a conversation, that you actually believed, shows how bad it really was.kalm wrote:
Oops...I was half listening while doing some work and I guess it was actually a parody that I took literally(along with some conks, apparently
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https://www.newsweek.com/adam-schiff-pa ... ll-1461579
So I guess your outrage here is justified. How dare a politician stoop to this level! Governmenting is dignified serious business!
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What irony?kalm wrote:And WHOOSH! The irony goes right over the head of another Trump supporter. We need dignity from our politicians!SeattleGriz wrote:
He currently serves as the chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He shouldn't be parodying when the transcripts have been released...even if they weren't. To make up a conversation, that you actually believed, shows how bad it really was.![]()
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You forgot the part about if the vote is secret. I can believe that. No way they would vote publicly against Trump because none of them would be re-elected more than anything else.kalm wrote:According to Mike Murphy there are 30 Republican yes votes on impeachment in the Senate. Jeff Flake says there are 35.Ivytalk wrote:A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
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Lol. Hearing they just happened to change the whistle blower form to include hearsay! Gotta love the timing. Poor hapless group unknowingly changed the standard and BAM! A new request.
How fortuitous.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
How fortuitous.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
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Re: The Trump Whistleblower Extravaganza Thread
Murphy is a never Trumper, Romney advisor. There’s not a chance currently that 3 conk Senators would vote to commit political suicide, much less 30..Murphy and Flake are full TDS delusionalkalm wrote:According to Mike Murphy there are 30 Republican yes votes on impeachment in the Senate. Jeff Flake says there are 35.Ivytalk wrote:A few pundits (Bill Galston, to name one) are now broaching the idea of censure as opposed to impeachment, both recognizing the futility of an impeachment effort and suggesting one way for conflicted Republicans (what few there may be) to weigh in against Trump.
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Yep.SeattleGriz wrote:Lol. Hearing they just happened to change the whistle blower form to include hearsay! Gotta love the timing. Poor hapless group unknowingly changed the standard and BAM! A new request.
How fortuitous.
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It shouldn't, but it did in jellybelly's other thread.Ibanez wrote:I don't see why that matters anymore. It's as if it is unfathomable that a Rep can investigate a Rep or a Dem can investigate a Dem. We're so politicized that it simply doesn't matter.SDHornet wrote: A lifelong Repub leading the investigation? Where have we heard that before.
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I love how badly this is imploding for the donks. The "transcript" isn't really a transcript (because the call wasn't recorded), and Trump was talking in code like an organized crime boss, then politicos making up quotes because there is nothing there...oh the desperation...
...at least jellybelly has some company in keeping this thread going longer than it should be this time around.
Schiff tweeted about Trump withholding military aid to Ukraine 2 weeks before the whistleblower complaint was made aware to Congress...hmmm....but we are being told all the proper procedures were followed regarding this issue...which of course has now been conveniently modified...
Schiffs fictitious call summary:
And for a dose of whataboutism:

...at least jellybelly has some company in keeping this thread going longer than it should be this time around.
Schiff tweeted about Trump withholding military aid to Ukraine 2 weeks before the whistleblower complaint was made aware to Congress...hmmm....but we are being told all the proper procedures were followed regarding this issue...which of course has now been conveniently modified...
Schiffs fictitious call summary:
And for a dose of whataboutism:
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Just you wait. Twistaplot is going to happen and Trump will be in jail by next week.SDHornet wrote:I love how badly this is imploding for the donks. The "transcript" isn't really a transcript (because the call wasn't recorded), and Trump was talking in code like an organized crime boss, then politicos making up quotes because there is nothing there...oh the desperation...
...at least jellybelly has some company in keeping this thread going longer than it should be this time around.
Schiff tweeted about Trump withholding military aid to Ukraine 2 weeks before the whistleblower complaint was made aware to Congress...hmmm....but we are being told all the proper procedures were followed regarding this issue...which of course has now been conveniently modified...
Schiffs fictitious call summary:
And for a dose of whataboutism:
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Um yeahkalm wrote:And WHOOSH! The irony goes right over the head of another Trump supporter. We need dignity from our politicians!SeattleGriz wrote:
He currently serves as the chairman of the United States House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. He shouldn't be parodying when the transcripts have been released...even if they weren't. To make up a conversation, that you actually believed, shows how bad it really was.![]()
BTW, there's a difference between parody and making something up out of whole cloth.
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The problem for those of you that want to go down that road is that the complaint is totally consistent with the memo with notes on the conversation. So you can say it was "hearsay" but the "hearsay" is seen to be accurate. The complaint's claim that the memo was unusually placed into a higher security storage system has also been shown to be true. It's kind of hard to attack the "hearsay" thing when stuff keeps coming out to validate the complaint.CitadelGrad wrote:It seems the intelligence community just last month secretly nixed the requirement that whistleblowers must have direct knowledge of wrongdoing before they can file a complaint. Now, hearsay evidence is permitted.
This must be a coincidence. The timing isn't suspect at all and we know the intelligence community would never work with establishment members of Congress to undermine a POTUS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
What the intelligence community might do, BTW, is let those of us that are blind to it at this point know that we have a complete nut job atrocity who is doing all sorts of unacceptable things as President right now. Or at least they can try.
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Depends on what the definition of "is" is.CID1990 wrote:Um yeahkalm wrote:
And WHOOSH! The irony goes right over the head of another Trump supporter. We need dignity from our politicians!![]()
BTW, there's a difference between parody and making something up out of whole cloth.
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Dude. So much to counter in your reply. I'm drinking with family in a Friday, but I'll try and give some meat to my rebuttal tomorrow.JohnStOnge wrote:The problem for those of you that want to go down that road is that the complaint is totally consistent with the memo with notes on the conversation. So you can say it was "hearsay" but the "hearsay" is seen to be accurate. The complaint's claim that the memo was unusually placed into a higher security storage system has also been shown to be true. It's kind of hard to attack the "hearsay" thing when stuff keeps coming out to validate the complaint.CitadelGrad wrote:It seems the intelligence community just last month secretly nixed the requirement that whistleblowers must have direct knowledge of wrongdoing before they can file a complaint. Now, hearsay evidence is permitted.
This must be a coincidence. The timing isn't suspect at all and we know the intelligence community would never work with establishment members of Congress to undermine a POTUS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
What the intelligence community might do, BTW, is let those of us that are blind to it at this point know that we have a complete nut job atrocity who is doing all sorts of unacceptable things as President right now. Or at least they can try.
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Even the chairman, making shit up.CID1990 wrote:Um yeahkalm wrote:
And WHOOSH! The irony goes right over the head of another Trump supporter. We need dignity from our politicians!![]()
BTW, there's a difference between parody and making something up out of whole cloth.
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Looking forward to it. All that's been happening is that the Whistleblower report has been being validated. I look forward to your argument as to why you think that is not true. Because it IS true.SeattleGriz wrote:Dude. So much to counter in your reply. I'm drinking with family in a Friday, but I'll try and give some meat to my rebuttal tomorrow.JohnStOnge wrote:
The problem for those of you that want to go down that road is that the complaint is totally consistent with the memo with notes on the conversation. So you can say it was "hearsay" but the "hearsay" is seen to be accurate. The complaint's claim that the memo was unusually placed into a higher security storage system has also been shown to be true. It's kind of hard to attack the "hearsay" thing when stuff keeps coming out to validate the complaint.
What the intelligence community might do, BTW, is let those of us that are blind to it at this point know that we have a complete nut job atrocity who is doing all sorts of unacceptable things as President right now. Or at least they can try.
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BTW there is nothing in the statute requiring direct knowledge. All it requires is ""information with respect to an urgent concern." Everything that has happened except for the DNI withholding the report from Congress for more than 7 days has been consistent with the statute.CitadelGrad wrote:It seems the intelligence community just last month secretly nixed the requirement that whistleblowers must have direct knowledge of wrongdoing before they can file a complaint. Now, hearsay evidence is permitted.
This must be a coincidence. The timing isn't suspect at all and we know the intelligence community would never work with establishment members of Congress to undermine a POTUS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/09/27/in ... knowledge/
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No it's not, infinity.JohnStOnge wrote:Looking forward to it. All that's been happening is that the Whistleblower report has been being validated. I look forward to your argument as to why you think that is not true. Because it IS true.SeattleGriz wrote:
Dude. So much to counter in your reply. I'm drinking with family in a Friday, but I'll try and give some meat to my rebuttal tomorrow.
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