Team Trump v/s Everyone

[UNI88]

Justice Dept. weighs appeal options after judge tosses Comey, James cases

A federal judge dismissed the criminal cases against former FBI director James B. Comey and New York Attorney General Letitia James on Monday, delivering an emphatic blow to President Donald Trump’s rushed efforts to engineer prosecutions of two of his prominent foes.

U.S. District Judge Cameron McGowan Currie ruled that Lindsey Halligan, the prosecutor overseeing both cases, had been unlawfully appointed as interim U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia and, therefore, indictments she single-handedly secured against Comey and James must be thrown out.

[houndawg]

https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2025/11/0 ... e-n2195921

None of that is surprising. When even NPR, at the time, commented that the prosecution had gone through so many legal acrobatics just to find him guilty on anything, it was always clear that any convictions were going to be overturned on appeal. It's definitely something that was properly classified as lawfare - the only goal was to have a conviction before the election, no matter the actual legality of it all. In the end, it didn't even work.

...well there's a word that was very popular around here until about ten months ago.

[houndawg]

You’re so aware of the intricacies of the trial you knew the judge was really a female.

No, both sexes display TDS…

the accuser would be the one that had visions of being raped

.....yes, the Trump Decomposition Syndrome appears to be advancing rapidly.

Word is that his diapers have been reinforced with steel bands to keep him in one place. I don't know if that's true but many people are saying...

[UNI88]

Appeals court upholds $1M penalty against Trump in lawsuit against Hillary Clinton

A federal appeals court has upheld a penalty of nearly $1 million against President Donald Trump and attorney Alina Habba, concluding they committed “sanctionable conduct” by filing a frivolous lawsuit against Hillary Clinton and former FBI Director James Comey.

“Many of Trump’s and Habba’s legal arguments were indeed frivolous,” 11th Circuit Court of Appeals Chief Judge William Pryor Jr. wrote for a unanimous, three-judge panel, including Trump appointee Andrew Brasher and Biden appointee Embry Kidd.
...
The ruling is the latest rejection of Trump’s legal crusade against his perceived adversaries, and the second rebuke by the 11th Circuit in recent days. Last week, a different panel — which included two Trump appointees — shot down Trump’s effort to revive a lawsuit against CNN over its use of the term “Big Lie” to describe his bid to subvert the 2020 election.
...
Pryor’s 36-page opinion called Trump’s lawsuit an “abuse of judicial resources.” It echoed the skeptical questions the panel had for Trump’s attorney during oral arguments last week.

Losers lose, it’s what they do.

[UNI88]

[Caribbean Hen]

Joe Bozo slept 20 hours a day and wasn’t allowed to take questions because he was to tired and mentally out of it

Trump barely sleeps and nods off at the morning brief and is on deaths door

[UNI88]

Joe Bozo slept 20 hours a day and wasn’t allowed to take questions because he was to tired and mentally out of it

Trump barely sleeps and nods off at the morning brief and is on deaths door

That's the story they tell. What's the truth? The truth is that trump starts his day later than he did in his first term and he's nodding off much more frequently. Maybe that's because he's rage posting through the night but that too could be a sign of mental illness.

You whine about tDS and but trump but here you are with the but biden response. Does your hypocrisy know any bounds?

[Caribbean Hen]

Joe Bozo slept 20 hours a day and wasn’t allowed to take questions because he was to tired and mentally out of it

Trump barely sleeps and nods off at the morning brief and is on deaths door

That's the story they tell. What's the truth? The truth is that trump starts his day later than he did in his first term and he's nodding off much more frequently. Maybe that's because he's rage posting through the night but that too could be a sign of mental illness.

You whine about tDS and but trump but here you are with the but biden response. Does your hypocrisy know any bounds?

The truth is right before your lying eyes

[kalm]

Joe Bozo slept 20 hours a day and wasn’t allowed to take questions because he was to tired and mentally out of it

Trump barely sleeps and nods off at the morning brief and is on deaths door

That's the story they tell. What's the truth? The truth is that trump starts his day later than he did in his first term and he's nodding off much more frequently. Maybe that's because he's rage posting through the night but that too could be a sign of mental illness.

You whine about tDS and but trump but here you are with the but biden response. Does your hypocrisy know any bounds?

Be nice, ‘88. You can’t even comprehend how difficult his job is.

[UNI88]

Pulitzer Board Demands Trump’s Tax and Psych Records in Lawsuit Twist

“To the extent You seek damages for any physical ailment or mental or emotional injury arising from Counts I-IV of Your Complaint, all Documents (whether held by You or by third parties under Your control or who could produce them at your direction) concerning Your medical and/or psychological health from January 1, 2015, to present, including any prescription medications you have been prescribed or have taken,” the board wrote in their filing. “For the avoidance of doubt, this includes all Documents Concerning Your annual physical examination. To the extent you do not seek such damages in this action, please confirm so in writing.”

As with the tax returns, Trump has been deliberately coy and unspecific about his health. He always claims to be in good health, bragging about acing dementia tests while his ankles swell, his hand bruises, and he falls asleep in televised meetings. If anything does come to light in discovery, his attack on the Pulitzer Board could very well blow up in his face.

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[BDKJMU]

Almost 3 week old news..

So of the 6 election year lawfare cases against Trump (4 criminal, 2 civil), 4 have already been dismissed. 2 to go.

[kalm]

Almost 3 week old news..

So of the 6 election year lawfare cases against Trump (4 criminal, 2 civil), 4 have already been dismissed. 2 to go.

On technicalities. We all listened to the mob boss phone call.

Like most things Trump wins at, America loses.

[GannonFan]

Almost 3 week old news..

So of the 6 election year lawfare cases against Trump (4 criminal, 2 civil), 4 have already been dismissed. 2 to go.

On technicalities. We all listened to the mob boss phone call.

Like most things Trump wins at, America loses.

I think Trump is abysmal, but as bad as that phone call was, it didn't cross the line into being illegal. Didn't say to do anything illegal, and didn't spell out anything that was illegal. Sounding like a mob boss doesn't mean anything if there's nothing illegal. This was one of the genuine lawfare cases that never should've been brought in the first place. Should have spent more time on the Jan 6th stuff rather than dragging that out, but we've been down this road before.

[kalm]

On technicalities. We all listened to the mob boss phone call.

Like most things Trump wins at, America loses.

I think Trump is abysmal, but as bad as that phone call was, it didn't cross the line into being illegal. Didn't say to do anything illegal, and didn't spell out anything that was illegal. Sounding like a mob boss doesn't mean anything if there's nothing illegal. This was one of the genuine lawfare cases that never should've been brought in the first place. Should have spent more time on the Jan 6th stuff rather than dragging that out, but we've been down this road before.

Oh Bullshit. He literally asked them to find him 10,799 (or whatever best Biden by 1 ) votes. As president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party.

[BDKJMU]

On technicalities. We all listened to the mob boss phone call.

Like most things Trump wins at, America loses.

I think Trump is abysmal, but as bad as that phone call was, it didn't cross the line into being illegal. Didn't say to do anything illegal, and didn't spell out anything that was illegal. Sounding like a mob boss doesn't mean anything if there's nothing illegal. This was one of the genuine lawfare cases that never should've been brought in the first place. Should have spent more time on the Jan 6th stuff rather than dragging that out, but we've been down this road before.

Bingo.

[UNI88]

I think Trump is abysmal, but as bad as that phone call was, it didn't cross the line into being illegal. Didn't say to do anything illegal, and didn't spell out anything that was illegal. Sounding like a mob boss doesn't mean anything if there's nothing illegal. This was one of the genuine lawfare cases that never should've been brought in the first place. Should have spent more time on the Jan 6th stuff rather than dragging that out, but we've been down this road before.

Oh Bullshit. He literally asked them to find him 10,799 (or whatever best Biden by 1 ) votes. As president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party.

Whether what he did was illegal was questionable but there was probably enough there for indictment and a trial. Let a judge and a jury decide. The Georgia charges were dropped because the prosecutor thought the interests of justice were not served in pursuing a protracted prosecution and that they belonged in federal court He was probably right.

MAQA yahoos want to act like all these indictments/charges were dropped because trump was innocent when they (especially the federal ones) were dropped because he was elected President. His guilt or innocence had nothing to do with them being dropped.

[kalm]

Oh Bullshit. He literally asked them to find him 10,799 (or whatever best Biden by 1 ) votes. As president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party.

Whether what he did was illegal was questionable but there was probably enough there for indictment and a trial. Let a judge and a jury decide. The Georgia charges were dropped because the prosecutor thought the interests of justice were not served in pursuing a protracted prosecution and that they belonged in federal court He was probably right.

MAQA yahoos want to act like all these indictments/charges were dropped because trump was innocent when they (especially the federal ones) were dropped because he was elected President. His guilt or innocence had nothing to do with them being dropped.

[GannonFan]

Oh Bullshit. He literally asked them to find him 10,799 (or whatever best Biden by 1 ) votes. As president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party.

Whether what he did was illegal was questionable but there was probably enough there for indictment and a trial. Let a judge and a jury decide. The Georgia charges were dropped because the prosecutor thought the interests of justice were not served in pursuing a protracted prosecution and that they belonged in federal court He was probably right.

MAQA yahoos want to act like all these indictments/charges were dropped because trump was innocent when they (especially the federal ones) were dropped because he was elected President. His guilt or innocence had nothing to do with them being dropped.

For an indictment there would need to be evidence. Besides the phone call, what else was there? The trial isn't for when these mysterious violations of the law would be revealed, all of that would have had to be dug up and presented to a grand jury to even warrant a trial being called. We haven't seen any of that, other than the phone call that kalm likes to pretend actually had illegal content despite it not having that. Trump didn't say how to get those votes, he didn't say to make up 10k voters, he didn't say to illegally discard votes, he didn't say anything, other than find the votes. Sounding bad in the court of public opinion does not automatically translate to illegal behavior in the actual justice system.

[kalm]

Whether what he did was illegal was questionable but there was probably enough there for indictment and a trial. Let a judge and a jury decide. The Georgia charges were dropped because the prosecutor thought the interests of justice were not served in pursuing a protracted prosecution and that they belonged in federal court He was probably right.

MAQA yahoos want to act like all these indictments/charges were dropped because trump was innocent when they (especially the federal ones) were dropped because he was elected President. His guilt or innocence had nothing to do with them being dropped.

For an indictment there would need to be evidence. Besides the phone call, what else was there? The trial isn't for when these mysterious violations of the law would be revealed, all of that would have had to be dug up and presented to a grand jury to even warrant a trial being called. We haven't seen any of that, other than the phone call that kalm likes to pretend actually had illegal content despite it not having that. Trump didn't say how to get those votes, he didn't say to make up 10k voters, he didn't say to illegally discard votes, he didn't say anything, other than find the votes. Sounding bad in the court of public opinion does not automatically translate to illegal behavior in the actual justice system.

Aside from your additional head in the sand normalizing attempts, do you recall all of the team Trump players subpoenaed? This thing had leg and was hijckrd by Willis’s stupidity, etc.

This isn’t some thing I concocted in my head, real legal scholars were all over it until the rug was pulled out and they could see where it was heading. Plus he was also granted presidential immunity.

As UNI implied, lack of conviction does not necessarily mean lack of guilt. Trump’s whole life has revolved around this and having the where-with-all to legally threaten and intimidate anyone in his way.

[BDKJMU]

For an indictment there would need to be evidence. Besides the phone call, what else was there? The trial isn't for when these mysterious violations of the law would be revealed, all of that would have had to be dug up and presented to a grand jury to even warrant a trial being called. We haven't seen any of that, other than the phone call that kalm likes to pretend actually had illegal content despite it not having that. Trump didn't say how to get those votes, he didn't say to make up 10k voters, he didn't say to illegally discard votes, he didn't say anything, other than find the votes. Sounding bad in the court of public opinion does not automatically translate to illegal behavior in the actual justice system.

Aside from your additional head in the sand normalizing attempts, do you recall all of the team Trump players subpoenaed? This thing had leg and was hijckrd by Willis’s stupidity, etc.

This isn’t some thing I concocted in my head, real legal scholars were all over it until the rug was pulled out and they could see where it was heading. Plus he was also granted presidential immunity.

As UNI implied, lack of conviction does not necessarily mean lack of guilt. Trump’s whole life has revolved around this and having the where-with-all to legally threaten and intimidate anyone in his way.

The only ones who were all over it were the TDS lefty ones.

Letitia James and Fanni Willis are cut from the same ‘I’m gonna get Trump and be famous’ cloth.

[GannonFan]

For an indictment there would need to be evidence. Besides the phone call, what else was there? The trial isn't for when these mysterious violations of the law would be revealed, all of that would have had to be dug up and presented to a grand jury to even warrant a trial being called. We haven't seen any of that, other than the phone call that kalm likes to pretend actually had illegal content despite it not having that. Trump didn't say how to get those votes, he didn't say to make up 10k voters, he didn't say to illegally discard votes, he didn't say anything, other than find the votes. Sounding bad in the court of public opinion does not automatically translate to illegal behavior in the actual justice system.

Aside from your additional head in the sand normalizing attempts, do you recall all of the team Trump players subpoenaed? This thing had leg and was hijckrd by Willis’s stupidity, etc.

This isn’t some thing I concocted in my head, real legal scholars were all over it until the rug was pulled out and they could see where it was heading. Plus he was also granted presidential immunity.

As UNI implied, lack of conviction does not necessarily mean lack of guilt. Trump’s whole life has revolved around this and having the where-with-all to legally threaten and intimidate anyone in his way.

I never said he was guilty or innocent, I just said it wasn't proven, or even close to proven, that he was guilty. There was a phone call. Sure, he sounded like a mafioso, but that's not convictable. You still have to do something illegal. In this country, even under Trump, there is presumed innocence. Show me the evidence of something beyond the phone call. And the presidential immunity is a canard as well. SCOTUS was very clear that that had to be determined through legal processes, not just assumed. If they had the evidence they would've proceeded and then the immunity could be determined. They didn't even get that far due to lack of evidence because the phone call didn't provide that.

In your zeal to try to prove that you aren't normalizing something, you can't just throw away all vestiges of the things you're trying to protect in the first place. I'm not throwing away all the principles of due process and the justice system just so we can convict Trump of things he may have done, as you seem to advocate for. That I certainly don't want to normalize.

[UNI88]

Aside from your additional head in the sand normalizing attempts, do you recall all of the team Trump players subpoenaed? This thing had leg and was hijckrd by Willis’s stupidity, etc.

This isn’t some thing I concocted in my head, real legal scholars were all over it until the rug was pulled out and they could see where it was heading. Plus he was also granted presidential immunity.

As UNI implied, lack of conviction does not necessarily mean lack of guilt. Trump’s whole life has revolved around this and having the where-with-all to legally threaten and intimidate anyone in his way.

I never said he was guilty or innocent, I just said it wasn't proven, or even close to proven, that he was guilty. There was a phone call. Sure, he sounded like a mafioso, but that's not convictable. You still have to do something illegal. In this country, even under Trump, there is presumed innocence. Show me the evidence of something beyond the phone call. And the presidential immunity is a canard as well. SCOTUS was very clear that that had to be determined through legal processes, not just assumed. If they had the evidence they would've proceeded and then the immunity could be determined. They didn't even get that far due to lack of evidence because the phone call didn't provide that.

In your zeal to try to prove that you aren't normalizing something, you can't just throw away all vestiges of the things you're trying to protect in the first place. I'm not throwing away all the principles of due process and the justice system just so we can convict Trump of things he may have done, as you seem to advocate for. That I certainly don't want to normalize.

There might have been a case in Georgia but Willis wet the bed and it turned into a vindictive prosecution. It would have been better had those charges been folded into the federal case under Judge Chutkan. The federal indictments were not a witch hunt / lawfare. They should have happened sooner so they could have been brought to fruition prior to the election, preferably prior to the primaries so Republicans would have known before they nominated trump.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA vs DONALD J. TRUMP

[BDKJMU]

Well, well, well…

'We Don't Dispute' It: Georgia 315k Vote Bombshell Blows a Big Hole in 2020's 'Most Secure Election' Lie

A Georgia State Election Board investigation substantiated that Fulton County violated election rules in 2020 by failing to have poll workers sign required tabulation tapes for early votes in 36 out of 37 advanced voting precincts, affecting approximately 315,000 ballots.

These unsigned tapes broke the chain-of-custody and certification requirements under Georgia law, which mandates signed tapes as the sole legal proof of authentic vote totals.

During a board meeting on December 9th, Ann Brumbaugh, attorney for the Fulton County Board of Registration and Elections, contends that Fulton County does “not dispute that the tapes were not signed.”

Oof. So much for the "most secure" and "most audited" election in the history of the world. No worries, however. Brumbaugh contends that their processes and procedures have rectified the situation since.

“It was a violation of the rule. We, since 2020, again, we have new leadership, and a new building, and a new board, and a new standard operating procedures. And since then, the training has been enhanced."

"But we don’t dispute the allegation from the 2020 election.”….

https://redstate.com/rusty-weiss/2025/1 ... e-n2197283

[kalm]

Aside from your additional head in the sand normalizing attempts, do you recall all of the team Trump players subpoenaed? This thing had leg and was hijckrd by Willis’s stupidity, etc.

This isn’t some thing I concocted in my head, real legal scholars were all over it until the rug was pulled out and they could see where it was heading. Plus he was also granted presidential immunity.

As UNI implied, lack of conviction does not necessarily mean lack of guilt. Trump’s whole life has revolved around this and having the where-with-all to legally threaten and intimidate anyone in his way.

I never said he was guilty or innocent, I just said it wasn't proven, or even close to proven, that he was guilty. There was a phone call. Sure, he sounded like a mafioso, but that's not convictable. You still have to do something illegal. In this country, even under Trump, there is presumed innocence. Show me the evidence of something beyond the phone call. And the presidential immunity is a canard as well. SCOTUS was very clear that that had to be determined through legal processes, not just assumed. If they had the evidence they would've proceeded and then the immunity could be determined. They didn't even get that far due to lack of evidence because the phone call didn't provide that.

In your zeal to try to prove that you aren't normalizing something, you can't just throw away all vestiges of the things you're trying to protect in the first place. I'm not throwing away all the principles of due process and the justice system just so we can convict Trump of things he may have done, as you seem to advocate for. That I certainly don't want to normalize.

Im not saying you intentionally normalize. But you do tend to consistently drift towards the comfort of tradition and established rules and law. EG: your constant defense of SCOTUS rulings through the years regardless of logic, consistency or reason. The entire system is built on sophistry and hiding behind precedent…until it isn’t. Citizens United and Presidential immunity being examples.

It’s ok. You’re quite conservative. I’ll just continue to remind you of it.

Trump was clearly guilty of racketeering based solely on the call alone (Fat Tony from the Simpson’s voice chiming in “We wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to your store).

But if you think that’s all the Georgia case was based on, you need to go back for a refresher.

Wait…never mind…it will only would only deepen
your defense of the system.

[GannonFan]

I never said he was guilty or innocent, I just said it wasn't proven, or even close to proven, that he was guilty. There was a phone call. Sure, he sounded like a mafioso, but that's not convictable. You still have to do something illegal. In this country, even under Trump, there is presumed innocence. Show me the evidence of something beyond the phone call. And the presidential immunity is a canard as well. SCOTUS was very clear that that had to be determined through legal processes, not just assumed. If they had the evidence they would've proceeded and then the immunity could be determined. They didn't even get that far due to lack of evidence because the phone call didn't provide that.

In your zeal to try to prove that you aren't normalizing something, you can't just throw away all vestiges of the things you're trying to protect in the first place. I'm not throwing away all the principles of due process and the justice system just so we can convict Trump of things he may have done, as you seem to advocate for. That I certainly don't want to normalize.

Im not saying you intentionally normalize. But you do tend to consistently drift towards the comfort of tradition and established rules and law. EG: your constant defense of SCOTUS rulings through the years regardless of logic, consistency or reason. The entire system is built on sophistry and hiding behind precedent…until it isn’t. Citizens United and Presidential immunity being examples.

It’s ok. You’re quite conservative. I’ll just continue to remind you of it.

Trump was clearly guilty of racketeering based solely on the call alone (Fat Tony from the Simpson’s voice chiming in “We wouldn’t want anything bad to happen to your store).

But if you think that’s all the Georgia case was based on, you need to go back for a refresher.

Wait…never mind…it will only would only deepen
your defense of the system.

So no other evidence, just allusions to it with nothing to back it up. And if you really think that phone call, completely by itself, would've gotten an indictment by a grand jury and would've gotten a conviction in a trial, then it's probably good you didn't go into the field of law as a profession.

The hypocrisy of your castigation of normalization is starting to defy belief. You stayed not just quiet, but actually cheerleaded the abnormal things done throughout the Biden administration because your sole focus was defeating Trump by any and all means possible. Modify existing law and statute of limitations specifically to be able to bring a case against Trump? Sure, no problem with that. Let jurors pick a felony from a list that could've been committed but were never proven, or even evidence presented, in order to allow another felony to be prosecuted. Sure, the ends justify the means, so go right ahead. I've always said, Trump is considerably detestable and abhorrent. He's an embarrassment of a President and really as a human being. But I don't abandon our legal system and our system of government just in the mad pursuit to try to block him from holding a political office. Ironically, that, even more than the damage Trump can do within the system, does more damage long term to our legal system and system of government. It's the virtual throw out the baby with the bathwater analogy, and you're well down that road.

I get it, you're liberal to a fault, and perpetually being on the attack to prevent Trump from holding the Presidency by any means possible is your lodestar. Just don't pretend like that isn't normalizing an abandonment of much of our democratic and republican ideals built over 250 years.