I didn't say Pontius Pilate was a fictional character.Gil Dobie wrote:Just off the top, there is physical evidence that Pontius Pilate existed.houndawg wrote:
Of which none are first hand accounts
There are book scrolls of the life of Herod the Great.
That's just a couple quick and easy examples. There is a ton of evidence from the Roman Empire.
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You matter. Unless you multiply yourself by c squared. Then you energy.
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Also, there was no record of Sargon the great until they found him in the Bible.Gil Dobie wrote:Just off the top, there is physical evidence that Pontius Pilate existed.houndawg wrote:
Of which none are first hand accounts
There are book scrolls of the life of Herod the Great.
That's just a couple quick and easy examples. There is a ton of evidence from the Roman Empire.
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Give it a rest JSO, who do you think you are, George Will?JohnStOnge wrote:It was a good economy, people had jobs, people were getting promotions, etc., before he got elected.CAA Flagship wrote: Who cares? Stop being a pussy. It's a damn good economy. People have jobs. People are getting promotions. THAT is what matters. I know you don't understand how big a deal that is because the economy probably doesn't affect your job. But it does for a lot of people.
The reason you should care is because it's an example of the fact that he is a total bullshitter. It is not the greatest economy ever in the United States and it's not close. You have a guy who is lying to you. Repeatedly. That's not a good thing.
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I notice you didn't try to rebut anything I wrote and you really can't. If you're talking about stuff like unemployment coming down and job creation there is absolutely no evidence that Trump made things better. Meanwhile you have a thoroughly dishonest, mentally unstable person in that very powerful position. Meanwhile that person is destroying the credibility of conservatism. Meanwhile that person is eliminating any hope that the Republican Party can survive as a viable force in the long term as United States demographics evolve.css75 wrote:Give it a rest JSO, who do you think you are, George Will?JohnStOnge wrote:
It was a good economy, people had jobs, people were getting promotions, etc., before he got elected.
The reason you should care is because it's an example of the fact that he is a total bullshitter. It is not the greatest economy ever in the United States and it's not close. You have a guy who is lying to you. Repeatedly. That's not a good thing.
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How many time do we have to go through this?JohnStOnge wrote:It was a good economy, people had jobs, people were getting promotions, etc., before he got elected.CAA Flagship wrote: Who cares? Stop being a pussy. It's a damn good economy. People have jobs. People are getting promotions. THAT is what matters. I know you don't understand how big a deal that is because the economy probably doesn't affect your job. But it does for a lot of people.
The reason you should care is because it's an example of the fact that he is a total bullshitter. It is not the greatest economy ever in the United States and it's not close. You have a guy who is lying to you. Repeatedly. That's not a good thing.
Obama had low interest rates, dropping oil prices, and 3 QE's as wind to his back. Trump has rising interest rates and not only no QE's, but Fed unwinding. Without the policies of the current administration, we would not be where we are today from an economic standpoint. All this while Trump himself has pumped the brakes on the economy a bit with the trade disputes. Some companies are being a bit cautious until we have some resolutions.
You are so clouded with emotion that you can't see what's going on (either that or you don't understand the economy). That's a poor quality for someone in leadership roles.
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Why bother? I could have better luck talking to a tree, but they don’t listen to me, either.JohnStOnge wrote:I notice you didn't try to rebut anything I wrote and you really can't. If you're talking about stuff like unemployment coming down and job creation there is absolutely no evidence that Trump made things better. Meanwhile you have a thoroughly dishonest, mentally unstable person in that very powerful position. Meanwhile that person is destroying the credibility of conservatism. Meanwhile that person is eliminating any hope that the Republican Party can survive as a viable force in the long term as United States demographics evolve.css75 wrote:
Give it a rest JSO, who do you think you are, George Will?
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Remember when conservatives complained about the deficit and debt?
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I do, and I still do.∞∞∞ wrote:Remember when conservatives complained about the deficit and debt?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Can’t ever remember the progtards griping about spending. Bunch of socialist drunken sailors.
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There was also a 4 hour version available, but figured I'd spare you the hassle.Ivytalk wrote:Wow! Two hours’ worth of Mexican Top 40 hits!SDHornet wrote:
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Don't really care what Trump or any politico says about it, only care what the monthly IRA statements say.JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, does anybody here believe Trump when he says this is the greatest economy ever in the United States?
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+.93SDHornet wrote:Don't really care what Trump or any politico says about it, only care what the monthly IRA statements say.JohnStOnge wrote:BTW, does anybody here believe Trump when he says this is the greatest economy ever in the United States?
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houndawg wrote:The Obama Recovery.AZGrizFan wrote:
Highest business confidence EVER
Highest consumer confidence since the 1970’s
Lowest unemployment since early ‘70’s
Lowest # of initial job claims in 50 years
US just became largest oil producer in the WORLD
Record low Black unemployment
Wage growth approaching 5%
Highest stock market EVER (and up almost 50% in 18 months)
Need I go on? For you, of course I do. You will “explain away” every single one of those records. Never, in all my years, have I seen someone in the state of denial you are in.
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Did Obama say 3% growth was impossible?
You know the economy grew over 3% for about a dozen quarters while Obama was President?
Got as high as 5.1%.
So... going to assume he didn't say that.
You know the economy grew over 3% for about a dozen quarters while Obama was President?
Got as high as 5.1%.
So... going to assume he didn't say that.
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I noticed you didn’t try to refute anything I said either. #TDSJohnStOnge wrote:I notice you didn't try to rebut anything I wrote and you really can't. If you're talking about stuff like unemployment coming down and job creation there is absolutely no evidence that Trump made things better. Meanwhile you have a thoroughly dishonest, mentally unstable person in that very powerful position. Meanwhile that person is destroying the credibility of conservatism. Meanwhile that person is eliminating any hope that the Republican Party can survive as a viable force in the long term as United States demographics evolve.css75 wrote:
Give it a rest JSO, who do you think you are, George Will?
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Yeah it was about the same time leftists didn't∞∞∞ wrote:Remember when conservatives complained about the deficit and debt?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
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Reread the internet meme...internet memes don't lie.Skjellyfetti wrote:Did Obama say 3% growth was impossible?
You know the economy grew over 3% for about a dozen quarters while Obama was President?
Got as high as 5.1%.
So... going to assume he didn't say that.
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Yet under the GOP, starting with God-King Reagan, the deficit seems to always explode. And then Democrats swoop in and have to clean up the damage, but there's only so much sweeping one can do.Ivytalk wrote:I do, and I still do.∞∞∞ wrote:Remember when conservatives complained about the deficit and debt?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
Can’t ever remember the progtards griping about spending. Bunch of socialist drunken sailors.
I mean I can stop paying my debts today and my life will be instantly better in the short-term.
Long-term? Not so much.
Face it, conservatives have no idea how to spend money. And what's worse, the debt they take on doesn't even help the average American; Republicans are the ultimate welfare queens.
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Dems cleaning up deficit damage?∞∞∞ wrote:Yet under the GOP, starting with God-King Reagan, the deficit seems to always explode. And then Democrats swoop in and have to clean up the damage, but there's only so much sweeping one can do.Ivytalk wrote: I do, and I still do.
Can’t ever remember the progtards griping about spending. Bunch of socialist drunken sailors.
I mean I can stop paying my debts today and my life will be instantly better in the short-term.
Long-term? Not so much.
Face it, conservatives have no idea how to spend money. And what's worse, the debt they take on doesn't even help the average American; Republicans are the ultimate welfare queens.
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You said there were no first hand accounts of these people, events and places.houndawg wrote:I didn't say Pontius Pilate was a fictional character.Gil Dobie wrote:
Just off the top, there is physical evidence that Pontius Pilate existed.
There are book scrolls of the life of Herod the Great.
That's just a couple quick and easy examples. There is a ton of evidence from the Roman Empire.
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Which party controlled the House of Representatives during Reagan's entire tenure?∞∞∞ wrote:Yet under the GOP, starting with God-King Reagan, the deficit seems to always explode. And then Democrats swoop in and have to clean up the damage, but there's only so much sweeping one can do.Ivytalk wrote: I do, and I still do.
Can’t ever remember the progtards griping about spending. Bunch of socialist drunken sailors.
I mean I can stop paying my debts today and my life will be instantly better in the short-term.
Long-term? Not so much.
Face it, conservatives have no idea how to spend money. And what's worse, the debt they take on doesn't even help the average American; Republicans are the ultimate welfare queens.
Both parties share the blame.
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Only 1 party is in charge right now.HI54UNI wrote:Which party controlled the House of Representatives during Reagan's entire tenure?∞∞∞ wrote: Yet under the GOP, starting with God-King Reagan, the deficit seems to always explode. And then Democrats swoop in and have to clean up the damage, but there's only so much sweeping one can do.
I mean I can stop paying my debts today and my life will be instantly better in the short-term.
Long-term? Not so much.
Face it, conservatives have no idea how to spend money. And what's worse, the debt they take on doesn't even help the average American; Republicans are the ultimate welfare queens.
Both parties share the blame.
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SDHornet wrote:Dems cleaning up deficit damage?∞∞∞ wrote: Yet under the GOP, starting with God-King Reagan, the deficit seems to always explode. And then Democrats swoop in and have to clean up the damage, but there's only so much sweeping one can do.
I mean I can stop paying my debts today and my life will be instantly better in the short-term.
Long-term? Not so much.
Face it, conservatives have no idea how to spend money. And what's worse, the debt they take on doesn't even help the average American; Republicans are the ultimate welfare queens.
But I do agree with Fiver that both sides are guilty and congress obviously plays a huge roll.
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No, no, no, CAA. It's EXACTLY the same situation.CAA Flagship wrote:How many time do we have to go through this?JohnStOnge wrote:
It was a good economy, people had jobs, people were getting promotions, etc., before he got elected.
The reason you should care is because it's an example of the fact that he is a total bullshitter. It is not the greatest economy ever in the United States and it's not close. You have a guy who is lying to you. Repeatedly. That's not a good thing.
Obama had low interest rates, dropping oil prices, and 3 QE's as wind to his back. Trump has rising interest rates and not only no QE's, but Fed unwinding. Without the policies of the current administration, we would not be where we are today from an economic standpoint. All this while Trump himself has pumped the brakes on the economy a bit with the trade disputes. Some companies are being a bit cautious until we have some resolutions.
You are so clouded with emotion that you can't see what's going on (either that or you don't understand the economy). That's a poor quality for someone in leadership roles.
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Z, what's the likelihood of another bubble forming (if it isn't already) and when?AZGrizFan wrote:No, no, no, CAA. It's EXACTLY the same situation.CAA Flagship wrote: How many time do we have to go through this?
Obama had low interest rates, dropping oil prices, and 3 QE's as wind to his back. Trump has rising interest rates and not only no QE's, but Fed unwinding. Without the policies of the current administration, we would not be where we are today from an economic standpoint. All this while Trump himself has pumped the brakes on the economy a bit with the trade disputes. Some companies are being a bit cautious until we have some resolutions.
You are so clouded with emotion that you can't see what's going on (either that or you don't understand the economy). That's a poor quality for someone in leadership roles.
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Housing bubble?kalm wrote:Z, what's the likelihood of another bubble forming (if it isn't already) and when?AZGrizFan wrote:
No, no, no, CAA. It's EXACTLY the same situation.
Because I think the next shoe to drop is GSL's.
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