Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

[YoUDeeMan]

Read those articles again...with an open mind.

Meant to say this earlier:

I think you're the one that has a problem with having an open mind. I think for some reason you have latched onto Trump even though he's obviously completely full of shit. I don't know why. But I can see it's happened to a lot of people.

Please put your silly theory into a fact based argument.

Otherwise, you are full of shit.

You know, you used to debate things quite well, but now you are screaming any ol' thing out to prove your point...and you've become the internet equivalent of an 8th grade school girl trying to convince everyone to vote for her for class president.

Stop reacting...start thinking. You'll feel better, I promise.

[YoUDeeMan]

I do think changing on homosexual marriage, while problematic, is a little bit different than getting on TV and ranting about how we should do something about Gaddafi and we've got troops in the area to do it then coming back after Gaddafi's been deposed and saying it was stupid to depose Gaddafi.

First you argue vociferously argue that we should depose Gaddafi. Then when Gaddafi is deposed and there are subsequent problems you say "we shouldn't have done that" as though YOU knew better. That's a little different than "evolving" on the issue of homosexual marriage.

Uhhhh...there you go again...stating your opinion of your girlfriends, "facts."

There is only one problem with your little blurb...Hillary has already said, point blank, that she didn't, "evolve" on gay marriage.

Straight up.

Hillary was given an out in an interview, by a person that wanted to give Hillary a softball excuse to change her position. but Hillary decided that she would stick with her lie that she was ALWAYS for gay marriage.

Psycho killer, que ce que c'est...lie, lie, lie lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie...

Yup, just another, "My record is clear" moment for the Hillaliar.



Evolve...you crack me up, JSO. Facts be damned...you keep churning out the Hillary sound bites.

[Ibanez]

I do think changing on homosexual marriage, while problematic, is a little bit different than getting on TV and ranting about how we should do something about Gaddafi and we've got troops in the area to do it then coming back after Gaddafi's been deposed and saying it was stupid to depose Gaddafi.

First you argue vociferously argue that we should depose Gaddafi. Then when Gaddafi is deposed and there are subsequent problems you say "we shouldn't have done that" as though YOU knew better. That's a little different than "evolving" on the issue of homosexual marriage.

Clinton didn't evolve on gay marriage. She waited until it was politically safe to come out for it. She's just as sleazy.

Is that not the political definition of "evolve?"


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[kalm]

Clinton didn't evolve on gay marriage. She waited until it was politically safe to come out for it. She's just as sleazy.

Is that not the political definition of "evolve?"


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I suppose. But like Cluck said, she was directly asked, by Terry Gross on Fresh Air whether she evolved on the issue, and she said she was always for it. There are tons of quotes and video evidence not even going back very far where she was clearly not. She's a complete liar.

That's the problem with political definitions and Clinton in general. She could have said "I was wrong" or "I changed my mind" but she just can't help herself.

[SDHornet]

I do think changing on homosexual marriage, while problematic, is a little bit different than getting on TV and ranting about how we should do something about Gaddafi and we've got troops in the area to do it then coming back after Gaddafi's been deposed and saying it was stupid to depose Gaddafi.

First you argue vociferously argue that we should depose Gaddafi. Then when Gaddafi is deposed and there are subsequent problems you say "we shouldn't have done that" as though YOU knew better. That's a little different than "evolving" on the issue of homosexual marriage.

Uhhhh...there you go again...stating your opinion of your girlfriends, "facts."

There is only one problem with your little blurb...Hillary has already said, point blank, that she didn't, "evolve" on gay marriage.

Straight up.

Hillary was given an out in an interview, by a person that wanted to give Hillary a softball excuse to change her position. but Hillary decided that she would stick with her lie that she was ALWAYS for gay marriage.

Psycho killer, que ce que c'est...lie, lie, lie lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie, lie...

Yup, just another, "My record is clear" moment for the Hillaliar.



Evolve...you crack me up, JSO. Facts be damned...you keep churning out the Hillary sound bites.

He has made Jon and Trip's lives so much easier the past few months.

[SDHornet]

Is that not the political definition of "evolve?"


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I suppose. But like Cluck said, she was directly asked, by Terry Gross on Fresh Air whether she evolved on the issue, and she said she was always for it. There are tons of quotes and video evidence not even going back very far where she was clearly not. She's a complete liar.

That's the problem with political definitions and Clinton in general. She could have said "I was wrong" or "I changed my mind" but she just can't help herself.

No kidding. Hell, here mindless followers would totally be on board with owning up to it too.

[BDKJMU]

Obama talking about Trump: If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if........................it it it it it it it it.........." Teleprompter must have malfunctioned..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxo9-Z5Ki0[/youtube]

[Ivytalk]

Obama talking about Trump: If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if........................it it it it it it it it.........." Teleprompter must have malfunctioned..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxo9-Z5Ki0[/youtube]

The Manchurikenyan Candidate.

[GannonFan]

Obama talking about Trump: If if if if if if if if if if if if if if if if........................it it it it it it it it.........." Teleprompter must have malfunctioned..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSxo9-Z5Ki0[/youtube]

Has a sitting President ever waded this much and this often into the Presidential election that was at the end of his second term? I can't remember the last time we heard this much in so short a period of time as we have recently with Obama talking Trump. They do realize this keeps Trump in the news every single day, right?

[BDKJMU]

Paul Ryan now publicly supporting Trump:
http://www.gazettextra.com/20160602/pau ... icy_agenda

[OL FU]

Paul Ryan now publicly supporting Trump:
http://www.gazettextra.com/20160602/pau ... icy_agenda

At the risk of sounding like JOS, Ryan is now officially an idiot

[Ivytalk]

Paul Ryan now publicly supporting Trump:
http://www.gazettextra.com/20160602/pau ... icy_agenda

At the risk of sounding like JOS, Ryan is now officially an idiot

Potty unity sucks.

[OL FU]

I have never identified as a republican but I have generally voted so. No more. I am sorry losing the Supreme Court is not a reason to vote for trump. I am now officially an idependant . Give me an alternative or I am Johnson all the way.





Fuck I don't need a drivers license

[∞∞∞]

Has a sitting President ever waded this much and this often into the Presidential election that was at the end of his second term? I can't remember the last time we heard this much in so short a period of time as we have recently with Obama talking Trump. They do realize this keeps Trump in the news every single day, right?

He's running for President; Trump is going to be in the news every day.

And I hope more people, especially those with influence, continue speaking out against Trump. He's a demagogue that needs to be stopped; dangerous things always start with voices like his.

[JohnStOnge]

And I hope more people, especially those with influence, continue speaking out against Trump. He's a demagogue that needs to be stopped; dangerous things always start with voices like his.

Good heavens we agree on something. I'd add that he also appears to emotionally unstable and immature and we're talking about potentially making this nut job the Commander and Chief of the US military and it's nuclear arsenal.

[BDKJMU]

Has a sitting President ever waded this much and this often into the Presidential election that was at the end of his second term? I can't remember the last time we heard this much in so short a period of time as we have recently with Obama talking Trump. They do realize this keeps Trump in the news every single day, right?

He's running for President; Trump is going to be in the news every day.

And I hope more people, especially those with influence, continue speaking out against Trump. He's a demagogue that needs to be stopped; dangerous things always start with voices like his.

No more of a dangerous demagogue than Hildabeast...

[YoUDeeMan]

Has a sitting President ever waded this much and this often into the Presidential election that was at the end of his second term? I can't remember the last time we heard this much in so short a period of time as we have recently with Obama talking Trump. They do realize this keeps Trump in the news every single day, right?

He's running for President; Trump is going to be in the news every day.

And I hope more people, especially those with influence, continue speaking out against Trump. He's a demagogue that needs to be stopped; dangerous things always start with voices like his.

Hillary is a demagogue. She has worked hard, very hard, to make sure we are helping to kill as many Muslins as possible...and making sure that Muslins keep killing themselves. She uses race to divide people...and she uses religion to divide the Middle East so that she can pile up her earnings. It is unbelievable that you can't see that.

But then again, you really don't care about minorities...you are simply spouting bullshit to sound righteous, you just care about your career opportunities.

Hillary & Obama crushed the Bahrain uprising. They forced out the democratically elected leader of Egypt. They support opposite sides of the extremist coin in Syrian and Yemen...while supplying weapons to some of the most vile and repressive regimes on the planet (more weapons than Bush supplied, by the way).

You are a fake.

[CID1990]

Has a sitting President ever waded this much and this often into the Presidential election that was at the end of his second term? I can't remember the last time we heard this much in so short a period of time as we have recently with Obama talking Trump. They do realize this keeps Trump in the news every single day, right?

He's running for President; Trump is going to be in the news every day.

And I hope more people, especially those with influence, continue speaking out against Trump. He's a demagogue that needs to be stopped; dangerous things always start with voices like his.

I told an acquaintance on facebook who supports Clinton that as we get closer to November CLinton is going to resemble Trump more and more, to the point that there will be scant difference between them in terms of campaign strategies.

Why? Because Hillary is just as much a demagogue as Trump and she's driven by what draws media coverage, just like Trump. It's the same reason Marco Rubio was reduced to making dick jokes- because thats what they ALL are. Trump shapes the narrative by forcing these clowns to show their true nature as PURE demagogues with zero substance, because they have no choice but to try to shift the camera's attention to them.

Anyone who points to Trump as some kind of dangerous demagogue to the exclusion of the other candidates is just shilling, nothing more.

[∞∞∞]

Anyone who points to Trump as some kind of dangerous demagogue to the exclusion of the other candidates is just shilling, nothing more.

No, Trump is a much more dangerous demagogue than anyone else. He plays on fears...pits people vs. people based on prejudices and lies. He adorns foreign dictators and doesn't care that our friends are scared of him. His speeches make people think that the unreasonable might just be reasonable.

Trump isn't a pragmatist or a realist or a savior; he's the demagogue that unpops the cork which makes good people act in bad ways. He's the most dangerous type of person.

[CID1990]

Anyone who points to Trump as some kind of dangerous demagogue to the exclusion of the other candidates is just shilling, nothing more.

No, Trump is a much more dangerous demagogue than anyone else. He plays on fears...pits people vs. people based on prejudices and lies. He adorns foreign dictators and doesn't care that our friends are scared of him. His speeches make people think that the unreasonable might just be reasonable.

Trump isn't a pragmatist or a realist or a savior; he's the demagogue that unpops the cork which makes good people act in bad ways. He's the most dangerous type of person.

If you can't see all these things in Hillary Clinton (and to a lesser degree Bernie Sanders and the entire field of GOP candidates) then you have issues that won't be solved here.

[Pwns]

Hillary's attack on Trump...

Donald Trump’s ideas aren’t just different; they are dangerously incoherent. They’re not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds, and outright lies. He is not just unprepared, he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability, and immense responsibility. This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes, because it’s not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because someone got under his very thin skin.

Sorry, but the witch is correct. Words like "narcissist" and "egomaniac" are thrown around too much, but they genuinely apply to Trump. We're talking about a guy that acts like a middle schooler on social media.

Every election has demagogery and pandering and non-substantive debates and dialogue but Trump has cranked it up to another level with his laughable border wall idea and his talking of banning Muslim immigrants. I honestly wonder if the guy could even pass a high school civics test. He makes Sarah Palin seem like a scholar.

[kalm]

Hillary's attack on Trump...

Donald Trump’s ideas aren’t just different; they are dangerously incoherent. They’re not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds, and outright lies. He is not just unprepared, he is temperamentally unfit to hold an office that requires knowledge, stability, and immense responsibility. This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear codes, because it’s not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because someone got under his very thin skin.

Sorry, but the witch is correct. Words like "narcissist" and "egomaniac" are thrown around too much, but they genuinely apply to Trump. We're talking about a guy that acts like a middle schooler on social media.

You do realize you're preaching this to a bunch of guys who also act like middle schoolers on social media, right?

[kalm]

No, Trump is a much more dangerous demagogue than anyone else. He plays on fears...pits people vs. people based on prejudices and lies. He adorns foreign dictators and doesn't care that our friends are scared of him. His speeches make people think that the unreasonable might just be reasonable.

Trump isn't a pragmatist or a realist or a savior; he's the demagogue that unpops the cork which makes good people act in bad ways. He's the most dangerous type of person.

If you can't see all these things in Hillary Clinton (and to a lesser degree Bernie Sanders and the entire field of GOP candidates) then you have issues that won't be solved here.

Trump is the epitome of modern politics.

[Ivytalk]

Hillary's attack on Trump...



Sorry, but the witch is correct. Words like "narcissist" and "egomaniac" are thrown around too much, but they genuinely apply to Trump. We're talking about a guy that acts like a middle schooler on social media.

You do realize you're preaching this to a bunch of guys who also act like middle schoolers on social media, right?

Oh, snap!

[YoUDeeMan]

No, Trump is a much more dangerous demagogue than anyone else. He plays on fears...pits people vs. people based on prejudices and lies. He adorns foreign dictators and doesn't care that our friends are scared of him. His speeches make people think that the unreasonable might just be reasonable.

Trump isn't a pragmatist or a realist or a savior; he's the demagogue that unpops the cork which makes good people act in bad ways. He's the most dangerous type of person.

If you can't see all these things in Hillary Clinton (and to a lesser degree Bernie Sanders and the entire field of GOP candidates) then you have issues that won't be solved here.

So true.