Trump's Secret Documents. The World awaits.

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What are Trump's secret documents?

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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:01 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm

It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
Contributing money isn't fraud. Rules changes by themselves aren't fraud. trump's lawyers were asked repeatedly to provide proof of fraud and were unable to. The election was stolen is a bigger hoax than Russia collusion.

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I said swayed. Those rule changes won't be in effect for the next election.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:57 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:15 pm

What communication would that be? Please don't say Alfa Bank.
Ummmm, communication between people with ties to the trump campaign and people with ties to the Russian government.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:13 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:57 pm
Ummmm, communication between people with ties to the trump campaign and people with ties to the Russian government.
No.

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So absolutely no one with ties to the trump campaign communicated in anyway with anyone with ties to the Russian government?

If you believe that I have some oceanfront property in eastern Montana to sell you.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:48 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:13 pm

No.

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So absolutely no one with ties to the trump campaign communicated in anyway with anyone with ties to the Russian government?

If you believe that I have some oceanfront property in eastern Montana to sell you.
Well sure they did, and it was all part of the transition process. One would assume with all the leaking, if they had any sort of real claim against Trump, you'd have heard about it before now.
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:48 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:13 pm

No.

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So absolutely no one with ties to the trump campaign communicated in anyway with anyone with ties to the Russian government?

If you believe that I have some oceanfront property in eastern Montana to sell you.
And if you believe there wasn’t any fraud in rhe 2020 election (most of which would be hard to prove in court) then I have some oceanfront property in Eastern MT to sell you..
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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:48 pm

So absolutely no one with ties to the trump campaign communicated in anyway with anyone with ties to the Russian government?

If you believe that I have some oceanfront property in eastern Montana to sell you.
And if you believe there wasn’t any fraud in rhe 2020 election (most of which would be hard to prove in court) then I have some oceanfront property in Eastern MT to sell you..
Oh I believe there was fraud. It was committed by supporters of both parties and there wasn't enough of it to impact the election. That's why I think we should take reasonable steps to make our elections even more secure.

trump calling the election stolen without proof is like a news organization publishing a story based on unnamed sources. ;)

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SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm
UNI88 wrote: Thu Sep 08, 2022 10:52 am

I think it's pretty safe to say that voter fraud is committed by supporters of both sides.

I don't think there was enough to sway either the 2016 or 2020 election. We can and should tighten up our election security more.
It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

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BDKJMU wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:44 pm
UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:48 pm

So absolutely no one with ties to the trump campaign communicated in anyway with anyone with ties to the Russian government?

If you believe that I have some oceanfront property in eastern Montana to sell you.
And if you believe there wasn’t any fraud in rhe 2020 election (most of which would be hard to prove in court) then I have some oceanfront property in Eastern MT to sell you..
And if you believe there wasn't any fraud in the 2020 election you agree with more than 60 federal judges, many of whom were appointed by Putin's own catamite himself.

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houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm

It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
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houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm

It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
:dunce: He won the 2016 election. Our presidential elections are based on winning the Electoral College not the popular vote. Why do you hate our representative democracy? Why are you trying to tear down the institutions that are the foundations of our government? People that do that are as bad as trump. :coffee:
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:49 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am

He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
:dunce: He won the 2016 election. Our presidential elections are based on winning the Electoral College not the popular vote. Why do you hate our representative democracy? Why are you trying to tear down the institutions that are the foundations of our government? People that do that are as bad as trump. :coffee:
He's an insurrectionist! Get him.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:49 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am

He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
:dunce: He won the 2016 election. Our presidential elections are based on winning the Electoral College not the popular vote. Why do you hate our representative democracy? Why are you trying to tear down the institutions that are the foundations of our government? People that do that are as bad as trump. :coffee:
Dry your eyes, sweetheart. :(

No need for the histrionics, we all understand how the system works - pointing out that he lost the popular vote by millions to the most unpopular politician of our time is about something else. Now you run along and ask mom for a popsicle. There's a good boy.. :roll:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:00 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am

He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
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houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:19 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:49 am
:dunce: He won the 2016 election. Our presidential elections are based on winning the Electoral College not the popular vote. Why do you hate our representative democracy? Why are you trying to tear down the institutions that are the foundations of our government? People that do that are as bad as trump. :coffee:
Dry your eyes, sweetheart. :(

No need for the histrionics, we all understand how the system works - pointing out that he lost the popular vote by millions to the most unpopular politician of our time is about something else. Now you run along and ask mom for a popsicle. There's a good boy.. :roll:
Sure buttercup but you stated that he "lost two elections" not that he lost the popular vote.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:05 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:19 pm

Dry your eyes, sweetheart. :(

No need for the histrionics, we all understand how the system works - pointing out that he lost the popular vote by millions to the most unpopular politician of our time is about something else. Now you run along and ask mom for a popsicle. There's a good boy.. :roll:
Sure buttercup but you stated that he "lost two elections" not that he lost the popular vote.

The convo was statistical anomalies - I pointed out that him taking office was a statistical anomaly. He lost, but the loser can take office sometimes. Now he's just another common criminal looking at an espionage rap. :coffee:
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houndawg wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:05 pm Sure buttercup but you stated that he "lost two elections" not that he lost the popular vote.

The convo was statistical anomalies - I pointed out that him taking office was a statistical anomaly. He lost, but the loser can take office sometimes. Now he's just another common criminal looking at an espionage rap. :coffee:
He didn't lose.

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houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm

It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
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BDKJMU wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:59 pm
houndawg wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am

He lost two elections by nearly 10,000,000 votes. :coffee:

He lost to the most unpopular politician of our times by 3,000,000 votes.

As Dr. Deming said - "Statistics are like bikinis, what they reveal is very interesting and what they don't reveal is even more interesting."
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
Bless your heart..
Oh my Lord. Bless your heart. :lol:
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:07 pm
BDKJMU wrote: Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:59 pm
:dunce: :dunce: :dunce:
Bless your heart..
Oh my Lord. Bless your heart. :lol:
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Shouldn't you be over on the other thread queefing in defense of Putin's reluctant invasion of his next-door neighbor that is actually America's fault? :ohno:
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Trump’s current lawyer Christina Bobb is lawyering up.
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kalm wrote: Sun Sep 11, 2022 6:40 am Trump’s current lawyer Christina Bobb is lawyering up.
tick tock......Isn't she the person who signed the paper saying that all relevant files had been returned to the gubmint, shortly before the search?


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UNI88 wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:01 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 pm

It's pretty obvious how the election was swayed. Groups like Zuckerberg gave millions, 400 by Zuck, to help get out the vote. That money was used to canvass votes in large metro Dem swing state areas. In addition, rules were changed due to Covid that allowed easier vote shenanigans like ballot harvesting, multiple ballots sent to same location, lack of signature verification, etc. Not to mention vote counting being shut down in multiple locations and restarted without proper supervision.

Put all of it together and that's why you get the statistical anomalies where Trump won 17 of 18 bellwether stats, but still lost.

In the words of Don Surber, if the Reps wanted to compete, they should have learned how to play the game.
Contributing money isn't fraud. Rules changes by themselves aren't fraud. trump's lawyers were asked repeatedly to provide proof of fraud and were unable to. The election was stolen is a bigger hoax than Russia collusion.

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There were changes made via edict because of the pandemic (mail in ballots, drop boxes) that didn't get passed via state legislatures. Fraud? No. Legit changes to the voting rules/laws? Also no.
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Just speculation right now, but some are thinking the Trump lawsuit that was dismissed, was never really about the lawsuit. I say this because many had guessed it would be dismissed simply because it was so large. Anyway, the speculation is the lawsuit was set up to allow his lawyers to see the actual documents and to provide attorney client privilege.

I have no clue on this one, but if true, it would seem to add another layer of protection.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:07 pm
bobbythekidd wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:54 pm

Can you provide some context here? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
Trump has this huge RICO lawsuit against Hillary and a slew of FBI guys. It's been proceeding along quite well, but could still never make it to an actual court case. Anyway, the raid just so happens to correlate with his latest filings. Could easily be coincidence, or it could also be the government trying to tie up some of his documents due to "active investigation". He had a whole binder of documents he wanted declassified so everyone could see a little more in depth what Hillary and the FBI were up to.
I didn't understand this post at the time and I don't now. Please look at the link below and let me know how it is relatable.

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A federal judge dismissed former President Donald Trump’s sprawling lawsuit alleging Hillary Clinton, the Democratic National Committee and many others conspired to spread a false narrative of collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia during the 2016 presidential election.

In a searing order Thursday, Judge Donald Middlebrooks said that Trump’s lawsuit was merely “seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him.”

The former president’s claims “are not only unsupported by any legal authority but plainly foreclosed by binding precedent,” Middlebrooks wrote in U.S. District Court in southern Florida.
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AZGrizFan wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2022 2:56 pm
houndawg wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2022 12:12 pm

You don't even believe that drivel yourself. :ohno:

What do you think he was planning to do with the Top Secret documents he removed to an unsecured area in his closet?
Same thing Hillary was going to do with the 33,000 emails she deleted and the hard drives she had destroyed when found out?
Tommy, I love the fact that you proclaim to be free thinker but think that a FPOTUS keeping over 100 Classified docs, in hand; some with the highest classification we have, is the same as a FSOS having 3 classified docs on a compromised server.
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