You are correct but is that really the only comment you have on his post?89Hen wrote:Baltimore isn't in Anne Arundel County.Skjellyfetti wrote:Baltimore PD keepin' it classy.
I'm not an expert on this subject of nibbling the pills like SK or Jon, but I'd say they were probably rolling on the ground in the 69 position, or the other guy may have had him headlocked between his legs.tribe_pride wrote:You are correct but is that really the only comment you have on his post?89Hen wrote: Baltimore isn't in Anne Arundel County.
How the hell do you get your face close enough to another guys' testicles to bite them? Was the Anne Arundel officer a midget because otherwise he had to be in a very awkward position to be able to bite the other guys testicles
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/loca ... s-killing/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Fairfax County police release video in 2009 officer involved shooting
David Masters of Fredericksburg was shot and killed by Fairfax County police Officer David Scott Ziants on Nov. 13, 2009, as Masters drove on Route 1 in the Alexandria area of Fairfax County. Masters was unarmed and had ripped some flowers out of a planter in front of a business, which led to the police pursuit.
On Wednesday, the Fairfax police released the dash cam video from Ziants’s car. The actual shooting is not visible, but the sounds of the shots can be heard (at 1:49), followed by another officer apparently telling Ziants, “What are you doing? Hold up! Whoa! Hold up! The —- you doing dude? Come on.”
Fairfax police did not explain why they chose today, more than five years later, to release the video. In March, the police rejected a freedom of information act request from The Washington Post to allow a review of the investigative file in the case, also without explanation. In Virginia, law enforcement agencies may release, or withhold, any investigative information under state public information law, indefinitely.
In a statement accompanying the release, Fairfax police Chief Edwin C. Roessler said: “In an effort to continue with increasing our transparency and the public trust, I have exercised my discretion under the Virginia Freedom of Information Act by authorizing the release of the in-car video from the criminal investigation into the officer-involved shooting of David Masters that occurred in the Mount Vernon District on Friday, November 13, 2009. Based on several requests, the video was provided to the Ad Hoc Police Practices Review Commission and is posted here. In reaching my decision to release the in-car video, I considered the following factors: the local criminal investigation has been completed; the U.S. Department of Justice criminal investigation has been completed; and there is no pending or threatened civil litigation.”
Fairfax Commonwealth’s Attorney Raymond F. Morrogh ruled in January 2010 that Ziants had not committed a crime, because Ziants believed that Masters was driving a stolen car, was reaching for a gun and had run over another officer, none of which was true. Ziants was allowed to remain on the force until May 2011, when then-Chief David M. Rohrer fired Ziants.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/49189efb ... r-shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;When a white police officer in South Carolina chased a black man nine miles by car, then shot him to death in his driveway last year, the shooting apparently was captured on the officer's dashboard camera — a video that state police have steadfastly refused to release.
North Augusta officer Justin Craven tried to pull 68-year-old Ernest Satterwhite over for drunken driving, then followed him with blue lights to his home after Satterwhite refused to stop in February 2014, authorities said. When Satterwhite stopped in his driveway, Craven ran up to his car and fired several shots through the closed door, telling deputies later that Satterwhite tried to grab his gun, according to a report from Edgefield County deputies who joined the chase after it crossed the county line.
Now Craven faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted of misconduct in office and discharging a firearm into an occupied vehicle. A prosecutor sought to indict him for voluntary manslaughter which carries guaranteed prison time and a maximum sentence of 30 years, but a grand jury refused.
Craven's dashcam video has been shown to a few people outside of law enforcement. Several who saw say say it's horrible and offensive, and Satterwhite had no time to respond to Craven. They won't speak on the record because they have been threatened with legal action since the video hasn't been publicly released.
The State Law Enforcement Division's decision to withhold the video contrasts with its handling of another police shooting. Earlier this year the agency quickly released a dashcam video of a case in which a white officer shot an unarmed black man in North Charleston.
SLED says its reasoning is simple. Unlike the North Augusta case, the North Charleston shooting happened away from the dashcam video.
SLED Chief Mark Keel worries releasing the North Augusta video could hamper the officer's right to a fair trial.
"In the North Augusta case, you've got a different set of facts that has a great concern. It's about justice and seeing everybody regardless gets a fair trial," said Keel, whose agency denied a Freedom of Information Act request for the video from the Associated Press in September and again in April after SLED released footage from the North Charleston case.
But public records advocates said that reasoning is wrong. They cite a 2011 court ruling that law enforcement agencies can't refuse to release dashcam videos unless they give a specific reason, like concerns about releasing the name of a suspect before an arrest or the location of a sting operation
"That is totally unequal. Public records law needs to be applied the same in every case. Why do the police get to decide what the public sees? That's not their job," said Bill Rogers, executive director of the South Carolina Press Association.
In North Augusta, Satterwhite's family reached a $1.2 million settlement with the city over the shooting. Lawyers in the case were allowed to see the video, but had to sign an agreement not to disclose it to anyone else.
Now Craven's lawyer is asking a judge to prevent anyone from releasing the video until it's shown in court. Before filing the motion, defense attorney Jack Swerling said releasing the video would do no public good, and would just provide fodder for TV commentators.
"He thinks he acted appropriately," Swerling said. "He regrets a life was taken."
The prosecutor handling Craven's case promises to release the video, but only after it's aired in court.
"As Edgefield County is a small county, the premature release of the video to be used at trial ... would be harmful, unfairly prejudice the pre-trial opinions of potential jurors, prejudicial to the defendant and not in the interest of justice," Solicitor Donnie Myers wrote in denying the release of the video this week to The Aiken Standard, which filed an open records request in April.
In denying release of the video to the AP last fall, Myers' office simply said it was part of an ongoing investigation.
In other South Carolina police shootings, authorities have released dashboard camera video well before the case was settled.
Skjellyfetti wrote:http://bigstory.ap.org/article/49189efb ... r-shooting" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;When a white police officer in South Carolina chased a black man nine miles by car, then shot him to death in his driveway last year, the shooting apparently was captured on the officer's dashboard camera — a video that state police have steadfastly refused to release.
North Augusta officer Justin Craven tried to pull 68-year-old Ernest Satterwhite over for drunken driving, then followed him with blue lights to his home after Satterwhite refused to stop in February 2014, authorities said. When Satterwhite stopped in his driveway, Craven ran up to his car and fired several shots through the closed door, telling deputies later that Satterwhite tried to grab his gun, according to a report from Edgefield County deputies who joined the chase after it crossed the county line.
Now Craven faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted of misconduct in office and discharging a firearm into an occupied vehicle. A prosecutor sought to indict him for voluntary manslaughter which carries guaranteed prison time and a maximum sentence of 30 years, but a grand jury refused.
Craven's dashcam video has been shown to a few people outside of law enforcement. Several who saw say say it's horrible and offensive, and Satterwhite had no time to respond to Craven. They won't speak on the record because they have been threatened with legal action since the video hasn't been publicly released.
The State Law Enforcement Division's decision to withhold the video contrasts with its handling of another police shooting. Earlier this year the agency quickly released a dashcam video of a case in which a white officer shot an unarmed black man in North Charleston.
SLED says its reasoning is simple. Unlike the North Augusta case, the North Charleston shooting happened away from the dashcam video.
SLED Chief Mark Keel worries releasing the North Augusta video could hamper the officer's right to a fair trial.
"In the North Augusta case, you've got a different set of facts that has a great concern. It's about justice and seeing everybody regardless gets a fair trial," said Keel, whose agency denied a Freedom of Information Act request for the video from the Associated Press in September and again in April after SLED released footage from the North Charleston case.
But public records advocates said that reasoning is wrong. They cite a 2011 court ruling that law enforcement agencies can't refuse to release dashcam videos unless they give a specific reason, like concerns about releasing the name of a suspect before an arrest or the location of a sting operation
"That is totally unequal. Public records law needs to be applied the same in every case. Why do the police get to decide what the public sees? That's not their job," said Bill Rogers, executive director of the South Carolina Press Association.
In North Augusta, Satterwhite's family reached a $1.2 million settlement with the city over the shooting. Lawyers in the case were allowed to see the video, but had to sign an agreement not to disclose it to anyone else.
Now Craven's lawyer is asking a judge to prevent anyone from releasing the video until it's shown in court. Before filing the motion, defense attorney Jack Swerling said releasing the video would do no public good, and would just provide fodder for TV commentators.
"He thinks he acted appropriately," Swerling said. "He regrets a life was taken."
The prosecutor handling Craven's case promises to release the video, but only after it's aired in court.
"As Edgefield County is a small county, the premature release of the video to be used at trial ... would be harmful, unfairly prejudice the pre-trial opinions of potential jurors, prejudicial to the defendant and not in the interest of justice," Solicitor Donnie Myers wrote in denying the release of the video this week to The Aiken Standard, which filed an open records request in April.
In denying release of the video to the AP last fall, Myers' office simply said it was part of an ongoing investigation.
In other South Carolina police shootings, authorities have released dashboard camera video well before the case was settled.
CID1990 wrote:So are you posting this because you are in favor of prejudicing criminal cases before trial, or against it?
I have never, nor will I ever advocate for releasing prejudicial evidence prior to a criminal trial.Skjellyfetti wrote:CID1990 wrote:So are you posting this because you are in favor of prejudicing criminal cases before trial, or against it?
For equal treatment under the law. You know, justice.
You know if the dash can footage cleared the cop they'd release it. They never hesitate to release or 'leak' info if it helps the cops.
I don't remember you having this opinion when the Baltimore PD leaked info that the kid bashed.his head in and crushed his vocal box while handcuffed in the back of a police car.
If you want all evidence withheld until trial - great. Do it in EVERY circumstance. You can't pick and choose to release over whether or not it incriminates.the cops. And, as the article says - the routinely release the dashcam footage before trial.
Yes because Jelly was clearly trying to paint a picture of Baltimore City cops. I wasn't at the altercation, so I can't say what happened. But lots of folks around here and the country in general seem to know exactly how things go down.tribe_pride wrote:You are correct but is that really the only comment you have on his post?89Hen wrote: Baltimore isn't in Anne Arundel County.
...but they're good kids.
Of all the places I've lived in my life...Baldy wrote:...but they're good kids.
I blame the GOP.
Fine. Why did you leave Baltimore, Cleets?Chizzang wrote:Of all the places I've lived in my life...Baldy wrote: ...but they're good kids.
I blame the GOP.
when I tell people I used to live in Baltimore
Nobody has ever asked my why I moved away from there
Boston - I get asked all the time
North Carolina - Yup why'd you leave
California - Why did you leave
Baltimore... Nobody ever asks why I left
Warrants.AZGrizFan wrote:Fine. Why did you leave Baltimore, Cleets?Chizzang wrote:
Of all the places I've lived in my life...
when I tell people I used to live in Baltimore
Nobody has ever asked my why I moved away from there
Boston - I get asked all the time
North Carolina - Yup why'd you leave
California - Why did you leave
Baltimore... Nobody ever asks why I left
Chizzang wrote:Why is everybody on this forum an ass-hole..?
SDHornet wrote:Looks who comes a runnin' when "asshole" is dropped. Jon you are really on your game.
It's a badge of honor up in here!Chizzang wrote:Why is everybody on this forum an ass-hole..?
I guarantee it won't be a hate crime.
Haha. /thread.Chizzang wrote:Why is everybody on this forum an ass-hole..?
Because he has the site set to ping him anytime the words "ass" "hole" "grease" "lube" "sphincter" "Ibanez" "knees" "Hershey" or "bear" are used.SDHornet wrote:Looks who comes a runnin' when "asshole" is dropped. Jon you are really on your game.
Put a uniform and a badge on em.93henfan wrote:Animals work in packs.
Hey its HounJonSillyDogFelchy!Skjellyfetti wrote:Put a uniform and a badge on em.93henfan wrote: Animals work in packs.
Everything is ok!!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzjrY4OAkw[/youtube]
