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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
I told you - he's a cornered rat with no cards left to play except brinksmanship. Now, lets hear your case for Poland.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:14 amOh no. You've decided to go with Putin and were asked first. Let's hear your reasoning, or is it simply, "he's crazy"?
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houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:30 pmI told you - he's a cornered rat with no cards left to play except brinksmanship. Now, lets hear your case for Poland.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 7:14 am
Oh no. You've decided to go with Putin and were asked first. Let's hear your reasoning, or is it simply, "he's crazy"?
Pro tip: Don't believe these types of stories.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:07 pmThis is the timeline as I see it.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 12:48 pm
We're not perfect but we're better than China or Russia when it comes to the "rules".
Speaking of not wanting to do business with someone, I wouldn't do business with trump unless I was paid upfront. At least the US hasn't fallen to that level of dishonesty.
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1 Donbass vote to leave Ukraine because they were treated like shit by Ukraine.
2 Russia agrees to Minsk agreements and Ukraine does not honor Dobass self determination.
3 Ukraine increases bombing of Donbass from 40 strikes a day to 2200 forcing Russia SMO.
4 Russia offers means to prevent escalation, Ukraine refuses.
5 Russia shows restraint and implements a Special Operation which is designed to simply chew up Ukraine/Nazi weaponry and forces.
6 Russia offers truce, but UK/USA deny
7 Oblasts vote to leave Ukrainian persecution through self determination, which is how Ukraine formed itself.
8 Russia accepts Oblasts into Russia.
9 Russia vows to defend
Putin played the long game and he schooled the rules based order(Biden, Nuland, Blinken, Cid).

Yeah he's just schoolin' the fuck out of them isn't he.....Seattle Griz

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
Lets hear that reasoning for Poland, SG.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:33 pmKeep reading, it's get better brother (mother fucker) .

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
Oh my gosh sister. Pay attention. Keep reading.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:40 pmLets hear that reasoning for Poland, SG.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:33 pm
Keep reading, it's get better brother (mother fucker) .
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
This point is especially fucking gold.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:07 pm 5 Russia shows restraint and implements a Special Operation which is designed to simply chew up Ukraine/Nazi weaponry and forces.


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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
The point that you keep missing is that Putin invaded his neighbor who is kicking the shit out of him, and is going to keep kicking the shit out of him until he leaves, your half-witted jabbering about the oblasts notwithstanding. Now be a good fellow and try to stay on topic.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:29 pmThe oblasts have no say? They are to be treated like shit? You apparently are only for self determination when it suits your rules. Not law.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:10 pm
Ukraine is a sovereign nation and Russia guaranteed that sovereignty when Ukraine gave up their nukes. Russia went back on it's word and violated Ukraine's sovereignty. Russia has repeatedly violated international law (i.e. the rules/laws). Trying to justify Russia's invasion is being a Putin apologist, it cannot be justified.
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How is that gold? Explain to me how Russia didn't drop everything on infrastructure like in Iraq? You cool with blameless Iraqis dying?Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:45 pmThis point is especially fucking gold.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 2:07 pm 5 Russia shows restraint and implements a Special Operation which is designed to simply chew up Ukraine/Nazi weaponry and forces.Holy shit.
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Bro. An SIU or UM fitted hat to the winner come Jan 1st.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:47 pmThe point that you keep missing is that Putin invaded his neighbor who is kicking the shit out of him, and is going to keep kicking the shit out of him until he leaves, your half-witted jabbering about the oblasts notwithstanding. Now be a good fellow and try to stay on topic.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Mon Oct 03, 2022 3:29 pm
The oblasts have no say? They are to be treated like shit? You apparently are only for self determination when it suits your rules. Not law.
I got a big fat head
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
define "winner"SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:52 pmBro. An SIU or UM fitted hat to the winner come Jan 1st.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:47 pm
The point that you keep missing is that Putin invaded his neighbor who is kicking the shit out of him, and is going to keep kicking the shit out of him until he leaves, your half-witted jabbering about the oblasts notwithstanding. Now be a good fellow and try to stay on topic.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
Russia prefers the exploding kids toys like in AfghanistanSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:51 pmHow is that gold? Explain to me how Russia didn't drop everything on infrastructure like in Iraq? You cool with blameless Iraqis dying?

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Hey Nancy. I'm listening to music. Stop bugging me an accept what I'm saying saying. You being gay, you'll love this song.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:56 pmdefine "winner"SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:52 pm
Bro. An SIU or UM fitted hat to the winner come Jan 1st.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:04 pmHey Nancy. I'm listening to music. Stop bugging me an accept what I'm saying saying. You being gay, you'll love this song.
....touched nerve did we?

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
Mariupol after being "liberated" by the RussiansSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:51 pmHow is that gold? Explain to me how Russia didn't drop everything on infrastructure like in Iraq? You cool with blameless Iraqis dying?

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And? You back rapists. It's on video.Skjellyfetti wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:12 pmMariupol after being "liberated" by the RussiansSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:51 pm
How is that gold? Explain to me how Russia didn't drop everything on infrastructure like in Iraq? You cool with blameless Iraqis dying?
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I'm busy. Thinking about BBG. Tell you what it is later.houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:08 pmSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:04 pm
Hey Nancy. I'm listening to music. Stop bugging me an accept what I'm saying saying. You being gay, you'll love this song.
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Didn't AP tell you Trump was a Russian agent? How many times do you need to go back to the well?
At least we don't have Cid, the swell guy he was, trashing you.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
nice tap outSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:24 pmI'm busy. Thinking about BBG. Tell you what it is later.

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
The only people still carrying Putin's water are Trumps no-hope bitter-enders and wackjob evangelicals that excuse his behavior because he's white.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:41 pmDidn't AP tell you Trump was a Russian agent? How many times do you need to go back to the well?
At least we don't have Cid, the swell guy he was, trashing you.

Watching Putin get his small-man complex shoved up his ass by Ukraine and not a thing his third-world excuse for an Army can do about it is hilarious - what do you want to bet that Russian officers and NCOs are getting fragged by the troops?

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He was good at it and he always offered his sources - like the osint that put the smackdown on the bullshit you and SDTatoo are trying to spew.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:41 pmDidn't AP tell you Trump was a Russian agent? How many times do you need to go back to the well?
At least we don't have Cid, the swell guy he was, trashing you.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
How have the 4 sites you like to read (but, don't like to name) faired in this thread?
There will be no invasion. Just a manufactured crisis so when there's no invasion, Biden can claim a victory.
Ukraine and Romania will invade Transnistria
Wasn't the Moskva that was sunk. Different ship.
We're in the final phase of this war. (In April)
"Numerous" NATO advisors holed up with Azov at a bioweapons facility in Mariupol
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis
With Russia down, I think the US should takeover eastern Russia and create a buffer state between us and Moscow
Hell, we're only two borders away from Ukraine...let's create our own land bridge through Russia to Europe. And if they don't like it, nuke 'em.

Hell, we're only two borders away from Ukraine...let's create our own land bridge through Russia to Europe. And if they don't like it, nuke 'em.
