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Re: 2020 General Election

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SDHornet wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:42 pm
Now do the election laws that were changed outside of their state legislatures...
So, we should throw out Texas's electoral votes? :ohno:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:01 am
SDHornet wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:42 pm
Now do the election laws that were changed outside of their state legislatures...
So, we should throw out Texas's electoral votes? :ohno:
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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:22 am
Skjellyfetti wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:01 am

So, we should throw out Texas's electoral votes? :ohno:
You should probably not play this game. I've seen the ending and you lose. Just spike the ball and walk away is my best advice.
You’re either for the rule of law and accept the results or you don’t...like the State of Texas.

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Even in this particularly dumb chapter in American history, to say that this lawsuit stands out as a shining example of willful stupidity would be an understatement. I won’t focus on all the legal reasons it is deservedly doomed to fail because it would be like trying to list all the reasons 2 plus 2 does not equal a horse. Nor will I dwell on the innumerate statistical hogwash it cites as evidence, even though it’s about as impressive as that equine equation.

But philosophically this lawsuit is a betrayal of everything defenders of federalism and the Electoral College claim to believe. The state of Texas has no standing to complain how those other states conduct elections or appoint their electors. If it were taken seriously, it would open a Pandora’s box of asininity in which various states would use the federal government to dictate how other states operate.

More infuriating, the driving impetus of this lawsuit — outrageously joined by 17 other Republican-run states — is to steal a presidential election. That’s why you don’t have to agree with me about the Electoral College; the Republicans supporting this lawsuit have long claimed to agree with me about the Electoral College and its role in the constitutional order. Yet they are throwing that away to aid and abet a president in precisely the sort of constitutional crime the Electoral College was designed to prevent.

It is an act of cynical, unpatriotic, undemocratic hypocrisy unrivaled in American history, a pure power play on behalf of a president whose disregard for the very Constitution these people have long claimed to adore is total. It is shameful. Infuriatingly shameful.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:31 am You’re either for the rule of law and accept the results or you don’t...like the State of Texas.

We’re only trying to help you out because we care.
You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
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Re: 2020 General Election

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89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:31 am You’re either for the rule of law and accept the results or you don’t...like the State of Texas.

We’re only trying to help you out because we care.
You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
So what is the point? Biden won.....but?

If your point was to wonder how in the fuck could anyone win by such a narrow margin versus Trump, well I can at least understand the pondering. The obvious answers are a binary system, a gullible electorate susceptible to propaganda, infotainment, failure of leadership from the Dems, and sleepy Joe.

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kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:31 am You’re either for the rule of law and accept the results or you don’t...like the State of Texas.

We’re only trying to help you out because we care.
You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
Should we be taking away the votes from questionable states? I would prefer a new election to disenfranchising voters in an entire state. If there were to be another election then Rumple Trumpskin should step aside until the results are verified.

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kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:49 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am

You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
So what is the point? Biden won.....but?

If your point was to wonder how in the fuck could anyone win by such a narrow margin versus Trump, well I can at least understand the pondering. The obvious answers are a binary system, a gullible electorate susceptible to propaganda, infotainment, failure of leadership from the Dems, and sleepy Joe.

Hope this helps!
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Biggest losers of the 2020 Elections:
1) Trump
2) the Democratic Party

And then a huge gap between #2 and whoever the 3rd biggest loser might be.

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm Biggest losers of the 2020 Elections:
1) Trump
2) the Democratic Party

And then a huge gap between #2 and whoever the 3rd biggest loser might be.

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UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm Biggest losers of the 2020 Elections:
1) Trump
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And then a huge gap between #2 and whoever the 3rd biggest loser might be.

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HI54UNI wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm Biggest losers of the 2020 Elections:
1) Trump
2) the Democratic Party

And then a huge gap between #2 and whoever the 3rd biggest loser might be.

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Truth but that's been the case for awhile.

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89Hen wrote:
Ibanez wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:11 pm
He didn’t lose the election? The conspiracy deepens....
By 7,000,000 no. And I know you know that, so you can stop.
Honestly you’re telling me he didn’t win by 7M but there are the votes so I’m really not sure what you’re saying, aside from Trump lose if we took enough legal votes away from Biden
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HI54UNI wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:26 pm Biggest losers of the 2020 Elections:
1) Trump
2) the Democratic Party

And then a huge gap between #2 and whoever the 3rd biggest loser might be.

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Ibanez wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:08 pm
89Hen wrote:
By 7,000,000 no. And I know you know that, so you can stop.
Honestly you’re telling me he didn’t win by 7M but there are the votes so I’m really not sure what you’re saying, aside from Trump lose if we took enough legal votes away from Biden
He won the popular vote by 7m. You do know that's not how we elect the POTUS, right? :coffee:
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89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am
kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:31 am You’re either for the rule of law and accept the results or you don’t...like the State of Texas.

We’re only trying to help you out because we care.
You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
7,000,000 vote azzwhuppin' = "by the skin of his teeth" :rofl:
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89Hen wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:26 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:08 pm
Honestly you’re telling me he didn’t win by 7M but there are the votes so I’m really not sure what you’re saying, aside from Trump lose if we took enough legal votes away from Biden
He won the popular vote by 7m. You do know that's not how we elect the POTUS, right? :coffee:
You do realize that eventually there comes a time when you have to show your evidence? Where's yours?
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kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:49 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am

You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
So what is the point? Biden won.....but?

If your point was to wonder how in the fuck could anyone win by such a narrow margin versus Trump, well I can at least understand the pondering. The obvious answers are a binary system, a gullible electorate susceptible to propaganda, infotainment, failure of leadership from the Dems, and sleepy Joe.

Hope this helps!

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houndawg wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:10 am
89Hen wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:26 am
He won the popular vote by 7m. You do know that's not how we elect the POTUS, right? :coffee:
You do realize that eventually there comes a time when you have to show your evidence? Where's yours?
:suspicious: Wha? Your necro posting is intolerable. Either read the thread or STFU.
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SDHornet wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:40 pm
89Hen wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:52 pm Watching ABC national news tonight (my favorite to get a glimpse into the liberal media machine). The way they phrase a story going into a Trump discussion tries to build a case that he lost the election by 7,000,000 votes. He didn't. Sorry.

He lost the popular vote by 7,059,741
He lost California and New York by 7,096,597

Now, I'm not trying to say those don't count for the popular vote, but it really puts it into perspective how MOST of the country felt. It was a statistical draw.

If you want to know how much he really lost by...

Arizona = 10,457 margin
Georgia = 11,779 margin
Wisconsin = 20,682 margin
Nevada = 33,596 margin


76,514 votes from 275 Trump/263 Biden. By my math, that's 0.048% of the total votes cast. That's what he lost by.

FTR, if PA flips you can take out Nevada and Arizona and it's only three states, but the margin in PA was more than the other two combined.
Now try to rationalize the narrative of "not enough fraud to change the outcome" and see how absurd that lie is.
I'd say you are the one that is doing the rationalizing. There is no evidence that the outcome was the result of fraud. You need to get out of the conspiracy theory bubble. You need to get into the real world.
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89Hen wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 11:15 am
houndawg wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 10:10 am

You do realize that eventually there comes a time when you have to show your evidence? Where's yours?
:suspicious: Wha? Your necro posting is intolerable. Either read the thread or STFU.
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89Hen wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:26 am
Ibanez wrote: Wed Dec 23, 2020 3:08 pm
Honestly you’re telling me he didn’t win by 7M but there are the votes so I’m really not sure what you’re saying, aside from Trump lose if we took enough legal votes away from Biden
He won the popular vote by 7m. You do know that's not how we elect the POTUS, right? :coffee:
Baby steps I guess....he won the Electoral College by a landslide margin too. :coffee:
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Stop the algorerithm!!!!:rofl:

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So far, I think we only have 3 documented cases of voter fraud in 2020:

Son voting for dead mom:
https://www.mcall.com/opinion/mc-opi-pe ... story.html

Father voting for son after returning to polling place in sunglasses:
https://www.dailylocal.com/news/charges ... 9bc08.html

Son voting for dead mom:
https://www.citizensvoice.com/news/crim ... 990de.html


All voted for Trump. :lol:
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JohnStOnge wrote: Thu Dec 24, 2020 3:09 pm
SDHornet wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:40 pm

Now try to rationalize the narrative of "not enough fraud to change the outcome" and see how absurd that lie is.
I'd say you are the one that is doing the rationalizing. There is no evidence that the outcome was the result of fraud. You need to get out of the conspiracy theory bubble. You need to get into the real world.
They were caught on video in GA cheating. Anyone claiming there is no evidence of voter fraud is delusional. :coffee:
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kalm wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:49 am
89Hen wrote: Tue Dec 22, 2020 8:39 am

You miss the point. Biden won, but only by the skin of his teeth. Probably the most narrow percentage of votes to swing the EC the other way. But playing the game of taking away states because of small margins or changes in voting, etc.. he loses. Your best defense is to not get into that argument and just keep repeating that he won.
So what is the point? Biden won.....but?

If your point was to wonder how in the fuck could anyone win by such a narrow margin versus Trump, well I can at least understand the pondering. The obvious answers are a binary system, a gullible electorate susceptible to propaganda, infotainment, failure of leadership from the Dems, and sleepy Joe.

Hope this helps!
Stop being so obtuse. The point is obvious. Given the narrow margin of victory in key swing states, MASSIVE voter fraud is not necessary. just a few key incidents, properly placed, will do the trick. The fraud doesn’t have to be obvious or massive. Just has to be leveraged correctly.
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