The Democratic Party...

[css75]

Tell me about the great education, high living standards and low crime rates of the inner cities under lib rule for 60 years.

Cities are certainly not perfect, but at least their governments make an effort to pull the poor out of poverty, whether through gentrification or providing free medical services, job opportunities, social services and welfare. Ultimately there's only so much you can do... poverty is a complicated issue...but statistics back up that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor.

With no success over 60 years, don’t you figure you might try something else?b. Look at San Fran and Chicago .


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[AZGrizFan]

Tell me about the great education, high living standards and low crime rates of the inner cities under lib rule for 60 years.

Cities are certainly not perfect, but at least their governments make an effort to pull the poor out of poverty, whether through gentrification or providing free medical services, job opportunities, social services and welfare. Ultimately there's only so much you can do... poverty is a complicated issue...but statistics back up that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor.

They’re not pulling the poor out of poverty. They’re pulling everyone ELSE down in the process. 60 years of a “war on poverty”, with virtually zero results. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result....

[Col Hogan]

Tell me about the great education, high living standards and low crime rates of the inner cities under lib rule for 60 years.

Cities are certainly not perfect, but at least their governments make an effort to pull the poor out of poverty, whether through gentrification or providing free medical services, job opportunities, social services and welfare. Ultimately there's only so much you can do... poverty is a complicated issue...but statistics back up that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor.

Why don’t you use a liberal bastion like, say, Baltimore MD to give use some examples of how they are making an effort to pull the poor out of poverty...





I’ll just wait over here for your examples...not some jive spin, but real examples...

[BDKJMU]

"SHOCK VIDEO: Brawl Breaks Out at Trump’s Star on Hollywood Blvd. – Youth Pastor Assaulted-Robbed for Wearing MAGA Gear

A massive brawl broke out at Donald Trump’s star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame after a youth pastor and YouTuber went out in “full MAGA gear” to see how supporters of the president are treated in public.

The YouTuber, Elijah Schaffer, had teamed up with musician Joy Villa for the social experiment. Though he is a Trump supporter, he describes his YouTube channel as being centrist.

To see what it is like to openly support our president, the duo went to the recently-vandalized Hollywood star and offered tourists a free photograph with a Trump cut out on Thursday evening.

During the experiment, a man approached the crew and began demeaning them for being white — while calling Villa, who is mixed race, “n-gga.” As the situation escalated, the man began to rile up the crowd that had formed to chant “f-ck Trump.”

Schaffer told The Gateway Pundit that the man left and came back with more men, one of whom had a large knife.

“They attacked my guard Tony Hoffman and started hitting my camera crew and myself,” Schaffer explained. It didn’t end there. The violent group also stole the YouTuber’s $3,000 camera.

Following the assault, the crowd once again began chanting “f-ck Donald Trump” as members of Schaffer’s crew were bleeding on the sidewalk.

“We were doing a social experiment to see how one would be treated as an open Trump supporter,” Schaffer told The Gateway Pundit. “It turns out that it’s not very safe to be one.”

The police were able to locate the group’s vehicle and identify the attacker. Schaffer claims to have found the man and his mother on social media and his team has offered to drop the charges if the attacker will agree to appear on a talk show discussing the incident....."
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/0 ... nd-robbed/
Sounds like these donks suffering from extreme TDS heeded Mad Maxine's call for violence..

They're just following in the footsteps of our fathers, who knew how to deal with nazis.

Densedawg, typical leftist gone full retard TDS who thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis You wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if your life depended on it.. But like the rest of your leftist ilk, please keep lebeling Trump
supporters Nazis for the next 6 years

[JohnStOnge]

Trump supporters are not NAZIs. But the phenomenon going on with Trump supporters and Trump is similar to the NAZI movement and Hitler.

[JohnStOnge]

Densedawg, typical leftist gone full retard TDS who thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis You wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if your life depended on it.. But like the rest of your leftist ilk, please keep lebeling Trump
supporters Nazis for the next 6 years

Labeling Trump supporters as pariahs is fine because that's what they are. We do not need to think in terms of appealing to them. We need to think in terms of marginalizing and defeating them. One is not going to offend rational people in the majority by calling Trump supporters NAZIs. It just offends Trump supporters. And nothing one does is going to make them rational anyway. Trump supporters are a minority of the population. A dangerous and irrational minority. And we need to treat them as such.

[AZGrizFan]

Densedawg, typical leftist gone full retard TDS who thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis You wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if your life depended on it.. But like the rest of your leftist ilk, please keep lebeling Trump
supporters Nazis for the next 6 years

Labeling Trump supporters as pariahs is fine because that's what they are. We do not need to think in terms of appealing to them. We need to think in terms of marginalizing and defeating them. One is not going to offend rational people in the majority by calling Trump supporters NAZIs. It just offends Trump supporters. And nothing one does is going to make them rational anyway. Trump supporters are a minority of the population. A dangerous and irrational minority. And we need to treat them as such.

I’m not a Trump supporter, I didn’t vote for Trump, and it offends me. So your hypothesis (as usual) is flawed and incorrect. But don’t let that stop you...

[css75]

Trump supporters are not NAZIs. But the phenomenon going on with Trump supporters and Trump is similar to the NAZI movement and Hitler.

Been hitting the loco weed again? JSO is proof that marijuana destroys brain cells.


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[kalm]

Labeling Trump supporters as pariahs is fine because that's what they are. We do not need to think in terms of appealing to them. We need to think in terms of marginalizing and defeating them. One is not going to offend rational people in the majority by calling Trump supporters NAZIs. It just offends Trump supporters. And nothing one does is going to make them rational anyway. Trump supporters are a minority of the population. A dangerous and irrational minority. And we need to treat them as such.

I’m not a Trump supporter, I didn’t vote for Trump, and it offends me. So your hypothesis (as usual) is flawed and incorrect. But don’t let that stop you...

You’re offended? This cracks me up.

[AZGrizFan]

I’m not a Trump supporter, I didn’t vote for Trump, and it offends me. So your hypothesis (as usual) is flawed and incorrect. But don’t let that stop you...

You’re offended? This cracks me up.

Yes, I’m offended that an American would call for attacks on other Americans simply because they differ in their political beliefs.

[kalm]

You’re offended? This cracks me up.

Yes, I’m offended that an American would call for attacks on other Americans simply because they differ in their political beliefs.

He called for something other than verbal attacks?

[Gil Dobie]

When you get closest to the country’s tallest buildings you are governed by ideologues of the progressive left.

Hell yeah. Our cities are living monuments to innovation, industry, technology, opportunity, and progress.

Our cities are living monuments to innovation, industry, technology and opportunity, governed and taxed by the progressive left. Several large companies in the Twin Cities, have moved their campus out of the downtown's, to the suburbs and other cities because of high taxes.

[Gil Dobie]

Tell me about the great education, high living standards and low crime rates of the inner cities under lib rule for 60 years.

Cities are certainly not perfect, but at least their governments make an effort to pull the poor out of poverty, whether through gentrification or providing free medical services, job opportunities, social services and welfare. Ultimately there's only so much you can do... poverty is a complicated issue...but statistics back up that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor.

Having grown up rural and living in a suburb of a large city, I don't see any evidence to the fact that the urban poor have a better chance of escaping poverty than the rural poor. The one exception, is the Indian Reservations where there is no casino payment. A good friend grew up on the Pine Ridge reservation. He told me some stories on how most of the adults in his life were high, drunk and abusive. He was lucky to get out, have a family and a good job. He was still haunted by his childhood though.

[AZGrizFan]

Yes, I’m offended that an American would call for attacks on other Americans simply because they differ in their political beliefs.

He called for something other than verbal attacks?

read the thread.

[JohnStOnge]

Yes, I’m offended that an American would call for attacks on other Americans simply because they differ in their political beliefs.

He called for something other than verbal attacks?

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

[AZGrizFan]

He called for something other than verbal attacks?

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

No, it’s not a “whole nuther level” John. And to witness your descent into your special kind of hell has been truly frightening to watch. The shit you’re advocating now is just dangerous.

[CAA Flagship]

He called for something other than verbal attacks?

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

John,
Pleas list of all the negative things that have happened under the Trump Administration.

[JohnStOnge]

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

John,
Pleas list of all the negative things that have happened under the Trump Administration.

The President and his allies have succeeded to a substantial extent in setting the stage for getting away with malfeasance with the "fake news" propaganda strategy.

The President and his allies have succeeded in eroding confidence in Federal Law enforcement with totally unjustified demagoguing about an imaginary conspiracy to go after the Trump campaign.

We've started a trade war.

We enacted a tax cut based on the false premise that it will mean revenues higher than or at least equal to what they would've been under the pre-existing structure then increased spending so as to create a likely scenario in spending growth accelerates while revenue growth declines.

One of these days, hopefully, I will be able to become informed about all the regulatory reform. I will not be at all surprised if, if and when I do that, I will find that it was not intelligently implemented. But we'll see.

[AZGrizFan]

1) All Trump did was name it. Fake news (and the concept) has been around since CNN and Fox News were born.

2) As opposed to the war on cops Obama initiated? There IS eroding confidence in federal law enforcement...especially when you see how complicit they were to getting Hildabeast elected.

3) The trade war was started in 1776. You could at least wait to see what the results are before you start burying him on it.

4) Hmmm....tax cuts and increased spending...where have I seen that before?

So basically, you’re saying he’s acting like a politician....but because he’s a dipshit and tweets out stupid stuff and calls it like he sees it you want to pillory him and anyone who deigns to support him.

[JohnStOnge]

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

John,
Pleas list of all the negative things that have happened under the Trump Administration.

This is to elaborate on one of the items I listed above while breaking up what would've been an even longer post. Very soon after Trump started running for office, I could see that he had a conscious strategy of trying to discredit the free press. My conclusion at the time was that he is someone who lies a lot and has a lot of skeletons in his closet so he was trying to create an atmosphere whereby, when negative information came out about him, people would not believe it.

I think that's still going on and I think his level of success in that regard is disturbing. I think that having people buy his crap about "Fake News" is very dangerous. I think the free press is an important control on government and having a President who constantly attacks it in an effort to diminish or even neutralize its effectiveness in that regard is a very bad thing. It's more important, I think, than things like GDP growth, unemployment rates, and stock market trends. It is something that is important to the basic nature of the Republic.

A similar thing is going on with Federal Law Enforcement, though I didn't see that emerge until later.

[css75]

John,
Pleas list of all the negative things that have happened under the Trump Administration.

This is to elaborate on one of the items I listed above while breaking up what would've been an even longer post. Very soon after Trump started running for office, I could see that he had a conscious strategy of trying to discredit the free press. My conclusion at the time was that he is someone who lies a lot and has a lot of skeletons in his closet so he was trying to create an atmosphere whereby, when negative information came out about him, people would not believe it.

I think that's still going on and I think his level of success in that regard is disturbing. I think that having people buy his crap about "Fake News" is very dangerous. I think the free press is an important control on government and having a President who constantly attacks it in an effort to diminish or even neutralize its effectiveness in that regard is a very bad thing. It's more important, I think, than things like GDP growth, unemployment rates, and stock market trends. It is something that is important to the basic nature of the Republic.

A similar thing is going on with Federal Law Enforcement, though I didn't see that emerge until later.

Trump did not attempt to discredit the press. The press has done a rather impressive job of discrediting themselves. Journalistic objectivity went out the window in the 60s. The only good thing about these hacks now is that the no longer care to paint the veneer of objectivity anymore.


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[houndawg]

Labeling Trump supporters as pariahs is fine because that's what they are. We do not need to think in terms of appealing to them. We need to think in terms of marginalizing and defeating them. One is not going to offend rational people in the majority by calling Trump supporters NAZIs. It just offends Trump supporters. And nothing one does is going to make them rational anyway. Trump supporters are a minority of the population. A dangerous and irrational minority. And we need to treat them as such.

I’m not a Trump supporter, I didn’t vote for Trump, and it offends me. So your hypothesis (as usual) is flawed and incorrect. But don’t let that stop you...

Everything offends you.

[houndawg]

They're just following in the footsteps of our fathers, who knew how to deal with nazis.

Densedawg, typical leftist gone full retard TDS who thinks that Trump supporters are Nazis You wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if your life depended on it.. But like the rest of your leftist ilk, please keep lebeling Trump
supporters Nazis for the next 6 years

We saw your true colors at Charlottesville, BDKKK.

[kalm]

I'm just saying the rest of the society needs to isolate and marginalize them. This culture does that with respect to views/positions that come to be identified as socially unacceptable all the time. It was done recently with respect to opponents of homosexual marriage. I'm one of them so I happen to be on the other side of that one. But we've had things like the former Mozilla (Firefox) CEO forced out because he made a donation to a group opposing legalization of homosexual marriage in California.

We should work to have that kind of pariah labelling of Trump supporters. So like if the culture finds out someone who's in a big job supported Trump the institution is forced by cultural pressure to get rid of them. That sort of thing. And I don't look at it as holding them accountable for their political positions. This is not a thing like the typical Democrat/Republican thing. It's not like supporting Romney as opposed Obama or even Bush as opposed to Gore. It is whole 'nuther level. Parties aside, supporting an atrocity like Trump to be President of the United States is an entirely different thing and the society should clearly establish that it's not acceptable.

No, it’s not a “whole nuther level” John. And to witness your descent into your special kind of hell has been truly frightening to watch. The shit you’re advocating now is just dangerous.

As dangerous as Hillary - The Dagger - Clinton?

[AZGrizFan]

No, it’s not a “whole nuther level” John. And to witness your descent into your special kind of hell has been truly frightening to watch. The shit you’re advocating now is just dangerous.

As dangerous as Hillary - The Dagger - Clinton?

Moreso.