Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

[93henfan]

"One of the best comments I saw online was from a poster on the Yahoo News comments section, who said that Trump reminded him of a doctor with no bedside manner. He tells you that you need to lose 100 pounds and stop smoking. You’re offended, you’re angry, you come up with 10 reasons why he’s crazy…and then you finally realize that he’s the only one telling you the truth." - Mike Huckabee

[BDKJMU]

Most of the pre election polls were proven to be as worthless as titties on a bull.

Pollsters suffer huge embarrassment
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... arrassment

Just like Brexit- pre election polls were way off. We are in a new era where most pre election polls aren't worth the paper they are written on. And Nate Silver? What a bufoon..

Only one worth a damn polls were the the most riduculed (by the left): IDB/TIPP and LA Times. Means for the next election should ignore most of the pre election polls

[Ivytalk]

Most of the pre election polls were proven to be as worthless as titties on a bull.

Pollsters suffer huge embarrassment
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pre ... arrassment


Just like Brexit- pre election polls were way off. We are in a new era where most pre election polls aren't worth the paper they are written on. And Nate Silver? What a bufoon..

Only one worth a damn polls were the the most riduculed (by the left): IDPT and LA Times. Means for the next election should ignore most of the pre election polls

"NO POLLS? LAWDAMIGHTY, WHAT IS I GWINETER DO?" -- JSO

[Gil Dobie]

It's 34 miles and is a dirt dike.

It isn't going to keep anyone out.

Building a 1,000 mile wall capable of actually keeping people out is an entirely different thing.

If you gave me 4,000 Marines and a 1,000 mile coil of concertina wire, I could save us a lot of money on the border wall.

Probably do it with just the Marines.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

If you gave me 4,000 Marines and a 1,000 mile coil of concertina wire, I could save us a lot of money on the border wall.

Probably do it with just the Marines.

Its not a hard problem to solve if you have any balls. Besides you would probably only need to shoot less than 100 illegals before they got the message and stopped trying to break the law by crossing our border.

I am all for bringing the military home and putting them on the border. Hell increase the military budget by 20% and give them all raises. Put them on the border and "do work"

[houndawg]

Probably do it with just the Marines.

Its not a hard problem to solve if you have any balls. Besides you would probably only need to shoot less than 100 illegals before they got the message and stopped trying to break the law by crossing our border.

I am all for bringing the military home and putting them on the border. Hell increase the military budget by 20% and give them all raises. Put them on the border and "do work"

Throw a few employers in jail and you won't need any Marines at all.

[HI54UNI]

I'm going to do a reset, try to forget Trump's social stances this election, and give him a chance to prove his worth and unite the nation. But I'll be honest, I have little faith.

I'm just sad that all the progress made in the last eight years will practically be wiped away, especially when it comes to healthcare, the environment, and social issues. But I know you guys don't really care or agree, so there's no point arguing it. I can live with Trump, but the regression is the part that really disappoints me the most.

It's just...I don't know...a lot of thoughts are running through my head this morning. But ultimately, I simply come to the conclusion that America, especially rural America, is clinging to a world that doesn't exist anymore and they're too afraid (or lazy) to change with it.

You need to get out of the EC(b) and come spend some time in rural America. It's not what you think it is. And all the pundits need to do the same.

[SeattleGriz]

President Donald Trump...
I'm still giggling to myself - I'm in San Francisco right now and the local news is in a state of shock

I'm literally dying to go in to work tomorrow to see how many call in sick if he wins.

The lefty meltdown will be EPIC


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I work with a DNC, er Hillary delegate and he's been ragging on Trump supporters for month. Was out sick today with an upset tummy!

[SeattleGriz]

So much for the end of Conservatism that was talked about when Obama was elected.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Its not a hard problem to solve if you have any balls. Besides you would probably only need to shoot less than 100 illegals before they got the message and stopped trying to break the law by crossing our border.

I am all for bringing the military home and putting them on the border. Hell increase the military budget by 20% and give them all raises. Put them on the border and "do work"

Throw a few employers in jail and you won't need any Marines at all.

Peacenik

[BDKJMU]

Morning Of 11/9 After Election Night Drawing 9/11 Comparisons
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/d ... mparisons/
Liberals..

[CAA Flagship]

Protests going on in NYC, Chicago, and Portland.

[BDKJMU]

[YoUDeeMan]

[YoUDeeMan]

BTW, THANKS FOLKS!!!!

I've been listening to Nathaniel Ratecliff/Nathaniel Ratecliff and the Night Sweats along with The Record Company and some other good music while checking in on this thread.

No TV or internet reports from anywhere but the most trusted source of news...CS.com.

That's some good music there.

Indeed.

[YoUDeeMan]

Don't stay away for long. We need the point, counterpoint.

Think back to happier days, like 2012, when your hero was about to be re-elected and you were sipping Bloody Mary's with crusty old white guys like Flaggy and 93.

So homo.

#MakeDelawareGreatAgain

I think we've done this before, but

F, K, M

M? I knew he was gay.

[SeattleGriz]

Protests going on in NYC, Chicago, and Portland.

Got one going on in Seattle and people were shot. You suppose it was Trump fans shooting people?

[93henfan]

Morning Of 11/9 After Election Night Drawing 9/11 Comparisons
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/11/09/d ... mparisons/
Liberals..

They're still focused on Trump, never realizing that it was the divisiveness of Clinton that determined the election. She was the most unlikable candidate in US election history.

I mean, even Donald Trump was more likable.

[93henfan]

I'm going to do a reset, try to forget Trump's social stances this election, and give him a chance to prove his worth and unite the nation. But I'll be honest, I have little faith.

I'm just sad that all the progress made in the last eight years will practically be wiped away, especially when it comes to healthcare, the environment, and social issues. But I know you guys don't really care or agree, so there's no point arguing it. I can live with Trump, but the regression is the part that really disappoints me the most.

It's just...I don't know...a lot of thoughts are running through my head this morning. But ultimately, I simply come to the conclusion that America, especially rural America, is clinging to a world that doesn't exist anymore and they're too afraid (or lazy) to change with it.

You need to get out of the EC(b) and come spend some time in rural America. It's not what you think it is. And all the pundits need to do the same.

Trip needs to read this article. It may be the best thing I've read in the last 48 hours. It is by Cracked, but it is dead serious.

Longish read but well worth the time, especially if you are a city dweller or suburbanite:

...It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables. But you might as well take time to try to understand them, because I'm telling you, they'll still be around long after Trump is gone...

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-t ... lks-about/

[Skjellyfetti]

...It feels good to dismiss people, to mock them, to write them off as deplorables. But you might as well take time to try to understand them, because I'm telling you, they'll still be around long after Trump is gone...

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-t ... lks-about/

The Rural Areas Have Been Beaten To Shit

Don't message me saying all those things I listed are wrong. I know they're wrong. Or rather, I think they're wrong, because I now live in a blue county and work for a blue industry. I know the Good Old Days of the past were built on slavery and segregation, I know that entire categories of humanity experienced religion only as a boot on their neck. I know that those "traditional families" involved millions of women trapped in kitchens and bad marriages. I know gays lived in fear and abortions were back-alley affairs.

I know the changes were for the best.

Try telling that to anybody who lives in Trump country.

They're getting the shit kicked out of them. I know, I was there. Step outside of the city, and the suicide rate among young people fucking doubles. The recession pounded rural communities, but all the recovery went to the cities. The rate of new businesses opening in rural areas has utterly collapsed.

See, rural jobs used to be based around one big local business -- a factory, a coal mine, etc. When it dies, the town dies. Where I grew up, it was an oil refinery closing that did us in. I was raised in the hollowed-out shell of what the town had once been. The roof of our high school leaked when it rained. Cities can make up for the loss of manufacturing jobs with service jobs -- small towns cannot. That model doesn't work below a certain population density.

If you don't live in one of these small towns, you can't understand the hopelessness. The vast majority of possible careers involve moving to the city, and around every city is now a hundred-foot wall called "Cost of Living." Let's say you're a smart kid making $8 an hour at Walgreen's and aspire to greater things. Fine, get ready to move yourself and your new baby into a 700-square-foot apartment for $1,200 a month, and to then pay double what you're paying now for utilities, groceries, and babysitters. Unless, of course, you're planning to move to one of "those" neighborhoods (hope you like being set on fire!).

We had a thread talking about this before the election.

This is definitely key. Rural areas are fucked in the modern economy. Rust belt cities are as well.

The economy has changed. My mom's side of the family is from rural Alabama. My dad's side is from wild and wooly West Virginia.

Rural Alabama is no longer an agrarian economy. West Virginia hollers are no longer going to employ entire towns to dig coal.

The economy has changed. Yes, I think NAFTA and other things contributed... but, it was going to change anyway. Mechanized mining and industrialized farming are here to stay and they employ far less people. Automation is the next step.

These people like living in the rural areas or rust belt cities. But, at some point they have to realize... that there aren't going to be any jobs showing up in the middle of coal country West Virginia.

What exactly is the remedy for rural America and the rust belt? And can Donald Trump deliver? Scrapping NAFTA isn't going to do it alone, imo.

[Ibanez]

Its not a hard problem to solve if you have any balls. Besides you would probably only need to shoot less than 100 illegals before they got the message and stopped trying to break the law by crossing our border.

I am all for bringing the military home and putting them on the border. Hell increase the military budget by 20% and give them all raises. Put them on the border and "do work"

Throw a few employers in jail and you won't need any Marines at all.

You mean actually enforce our laws??? BABY KILLER!!

[Gil Dobie]

I'm going to do a reset, try to forget Trump's social stances this election, and give him a chance to prove his worth and unite the nation. But I'll be honest, I have little faith.

I'm just sad that all the progress made in the last eight years will practically be wiped away, especially when it comes to healthcare, the environment, and social issues. But I know you guys don't really care or agree, so there's no point arguing it. I can live with Trump, but the regression is the part that really disappoints me the most.

It's just...I don't know...a lot of thoughts are running through my head this morning. But ultimately, I simply come to the conclusion that America, especially rural America, is clinging to a world that doesn't exist anymore and they're too afraid (or lazy) to change with it.

You need to get out of the EC(b) and come spend some time in rural America. It's not what you think it is. And all the pundits need to do the same.

Good point, there are a lot of great people in rural America, despite what you have heard.

[YoUDeeMan]

Nice job, gentlemen.

[Ivytalk]

Dow up another 142. Flaggy doing cartwheels at his laptop.

Bond market tanking. Yields up, prices down. Waiting for Krugman's latest hyperventilation.

[CAA Flagship]

Dow up another 142. Flaggy doing cartwheels at his laptop.

Bond market tanking. Yields up, prices down. Waiting for Krugman's latest hyperventilation.

Bought Home Depot yesterday morning at $121.77. Just sold it 5 minutes ago at $129.52.