Election 2016: Trump vs Clinton

[houndawg]

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-t ... lks-about/

The Rural Areas Have Been Beaten To ****

Don't message me saying all those things I listed are wrong. I know they're wrong. Or rather, I think they're wrong, because I now live in a blue county and work for a blue industry. I know the Good Old Days of the past were built on slavery and segregation, I know that entire categories of humanity experienced religion only as a boot on their neck. I know that those "traditional families" involved millions of women trapped in kitchens and bad marriages. I know gays lived in fear and abortions were back-alley affairs.

I know the changes were for the best.

Try telling that to anybody who lives in Trump country.

They're getting the **** kicked out of them. I know, I was there. Step outside of the city, and the suicide rate among young people **** doubles. The recession pounded rural communities, but all the recovery went to the cities. The rate of new businesses opening in rural areas has utterly collapsed.

See, rural jobs used to be based around one big local business -- a factory, a coal mine, etc. When it dies, the town dies. Where I grew up, it was an oil refinery closing that did us in. I was raised in the hollowed-out shell of what the town had once been. The roof of our high school leaked when it rained. Cities can make up for the loss of manufacturing jobs with service jobs -- small towns cannot. That model doesn't work below a certain population density.

If you don't live in one of these small towns, you can't understand the hopelessness. The vast majority of possible careers involve moving to the city, and around every city is now a hundred-foot wall called "Cost of Living." Let's say you're a smart kid making $8 an hour at Walgreen's and aspire to greater things. Fine, get ready to move yourself and your new baby into a 700-square-foot apartment for $1,200 a month, and to then pay double what you're paying now for utilities, groceries, and babysitters. Unless, of course, you're planning to move to one of "those" neighborhoods (hope you like being set on fire!).

We had a thread talking about this before the election.

This is definitely key. Rural areas are **** in the modern economy. Rust belt cities are as well.

The economy has changed. My mom's side of the family is from rural Alabama. My dad's side is from wild and wooly West Virginia.

Rural Alabama is no longer an agrarian economy. West Virginia hollers are no longer going to employ entire towns to dig coal.

The economy has changed. Yes, I think NAFTA and other things contributed... but, it was going to change anyway. Mechanized mining and industrialized farming are here to stay and they employ far less people. Automation is the next step.

These people like living in the rural areas or rust belt cities. But, at some point they have to realize... that there aren't going to be any jobs showing up in the middle of coal country West Virginia.

What exactly is the remedy for rural America and the rust belt? And can Donald Trump deliver? Scrapping NAFTA isn't going to do it alone, imo.

Grow weed for the nationwide recreational market that Trump will legalize. There are some rednecks around here who grow shit that can make you see the gods.

[houndawg]

Internet meme:

BRITAIN: Brexit is the stupidest, most self-destructive thing a country could do to itself.

USA: Hold my beer...

[Skjellyfetti]

Grow weed for the nationwide recreational market that Trump will legalize. There are some rednecks around here who grow shit that can make you see the gods.

This is a good answer.

The problem is that these areas are also the most opposed to marijuana.

The rural areas that will benefit the most will probably be the rural areas in blue states paving the way on legalization. Perhaps there will be a trickle down pot industry to the rural South and Rust Belt, though.

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[BDKJMU]

As of this evening some of the election maps (NYT, FNC) still haven't been updated to show AZ's electoral going to Trump and NH going to Hillary. CNN finally updated today. Finally called today were AZ (it wasn't THAT close) and NH (less than 3k vote margin aout of close to 3/4 million) Still haven't called Michigan but with 100% reporting and Trump up less than 13k votes out of over 5 million cast (47.6% to 47.3%). Guess they're still doing the recount. Assuming Michigan goes Trump, final tally is Trump 306, Clinton 232.
http://www.cnn.com/election/results

[CID1990]

As of this evening some of the election maps (NYT, FNC) still haven't been updated to show AZ's electoral going to Trump and NH going to Hillary. CNN finally updated today. Finally called today were AZ (it wasn't THAT close) and NH (less than 3k vote margin aout of close to 3/4 million) Still haven't called Michigan but with 100% reporting and Trump up less than 13k votes out of over 5 million cast (47.6% to 47.3%). Guess they're still doing the recount. Assuming Michigan goes Trump, final tally is Trump 306, Clinton 232.
http://www.cnn.com/election/results

I saw a Facebook post where someone was claiming that CNN indicated today that the expectation is that after all the votes are tallied, Trump will have won the popular vote. I don't really watch the news that much but when I do, it's usually CNN and I haven't heard them say that. I can't find it on the internet anywhere.

I wonder how much of the absentee vote has been counted?


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[DSUrocks07]

As of this evening some of the election maps (NYT, FNC) still haven't been updated to show AZ's electoral going to Trump and NH going to Hillary. CNN finally updated today. Finally called today were AZ (it wasn't THAT close) and NH (less than 3k vote margin aout of close to 3/4 million) Still haven't called Michigan but with 100% reporting and Trump up less than 13k votes out of over 5 million cast (47.6% to 47.3%). Guess they're still doing the recount. Assuming Michigan goes Trump, final tally is Trump 306, Clinton 232.
http://www.cnn.com/election/results

I saw a Facebook post where someone was claiming that CNN indicated today that the expectation is that after all the votes are tallied, Trump will have won the popular vote. I don't really watch the news that much but when I do, it's usually CNN and I haven't heard them say that. I can't find it on the internet anywhere.

I wonder how much of the absentee vote has been counted?


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I haven't either, I think people are misreading the checkmark that CNN has on their graphic that stays on Trump when you click over to the pop vote tallies.

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[Gil Dobie]

Just say this on a yahoo news feed, Hillary was blaming FBI director Comey. I don't really think many changed their mind over the FBI stuff.

Yahoo Link

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard. "This is Hillary we're talking about," Klein said. "Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly

[93henfan]

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard.

This makes me oh so happy if true. A woman who has treated all of her security details like trash; who reviles the military, who labels half the country "deplorable".

The only thing that would have been better is if she had committed suicide.

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Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard.

This makes me oh so happy if true. A woman who has treated all of her security details like trash; who reviles the military, who labels half the country "deplorable".

The only thing that would have been better is if she had committed suicide using my gun.

FIFY

[SDHornet]

Just say this on a yahoo news feed, Hillary was blaming FBI director Comey. I don't really think many changed their mind over the FBI stuff.

Yahoo Link

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard. "This is Hillary we're talking about," Klein said. "Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly

Explains why she didn't make a concession speech that night. Her face probably melted off and she had to order a new human suit.

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[SDHornet]

[YoUDeeMan]

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard.

This makes me oh so happy if true. A woman who has treated all of her security details like trash; who reviles the military, who labels half the country "deplorable".

The only thing that would have been better is if she had committed suicide.

kkklean...looks as though Karma showed her face to Hillary.

[Ibanez]

Just say this on a yahoo news feed, Hillary was blaming FBI director Comey. I don't really think many changed their mind over the FBI stuff.

Yahoo Link

Hillary Clinton "couldn't stop crying" once she learned of her loss to Donald Trump on Tuesday, best-selling conservative author Ed Klein told Newsmax TV on Wednesday. "About 6:30 this morning she called an old friend," he began on "The Steve Malzberg Show" in an interview. "She was crying, inconsolably. "She couldn't stop crying. "Her friend said — her female friend from way, way, back — said that it was even hard to understand what she was saying, she was crying so hard. "This is Hillary we're talking about," Klein said. "Eventually," he continued, "her friend said she could make out that she was blaming James Comey, the director of the FBI, for her loss — and this I don't understand exactly

Explains why she didn't make a concession speech that night. Her face probably melted off and she had to order a new human suit.

Do you think her and Ted Cruz use the same company??

[BDKJMU]

Dow posts best week since 2011 after Donald Trump election win
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/11/us-markets.html

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New York Times: We blew it on Trump

http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/new-york-t ... -on-trump/

[dal4018]

This is what ppl in this country will be seeing in the upcoming months http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6OmDutPJAM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkKK49vrd6Q

[houndawg]

Dow posts best week since 2011 after Donald Trump election win
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/11/us-markets.html

Think of the loot out there now


Devil take the hindmost!

[BDKJMU]

Sidney Blumenthal: Hillary taken down in a 'Coup D’Etat’
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/sidne ... tat-video/

That goes into expandspanos territory there.

[Baldy]

Sidney Blumenthal: Hillary taken down in a 'Coup D’Etat’
http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/sidne ... tat-video/

That goes into expandspanos territory there.

I wanna buy those FBI agents a beer.

[JohnStOnge]

Watched a couple of episodes of a documentary on the rise and fall of the Third Reich last night and was once again taken by how similar the irrational group psychology that led to where we are now with a mentally ill person in the President's position is to that of Germany during Hitler's rise to power. I might be comforted by the fact that not even a plurality of voters voted for Trump but it wasn't the majority of the population that put Hitler in either. Thankfully we have a better system of checks and balances than Germany did then. But we are fools in the eyes of the world and we should be.

[93henfan]

Watched a couple of episodes of a documentary on the rise and fall of the Third Reich last night and was once again taken by how similar the irrational group psychology that led to where we are now with a mentally ill person in the President's position is to that of Germany during Hitler's rise to power. I might be comforted by the fact that not even a plurality of voters voted for Trump but it wasn't the majority of the population that put Hitler in either. Thankfully we have a better system of checks and balances than Germany did then. But we are fools in the eyes of the world and we should be.

You still mad?

Mike Godwin was right.

[Ivytalk]

Watched a couple of episodes of a documentary on the rise and fall of the Third Reich last night and was once again taken by how similar the irrational group psychology that led to where we are now with a mentally ill person in the President's position is to that of Germany during Hitler's rise to power. I might be comforted by the fact that not even a plurality of voters voted for Trump but it wasn't the majority of the population that put Hitler in either. Thankfully we have a better system of checks and balances than Germany did then. But we are fools in the eyes of the world and we should be.

All out of Midol?