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kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 am

∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:18 am Had three friends (all older) change their votes from Sanders to Biden this week because they think he can beat Trump. I mean VA was always Biden's to lose, but I really wish people simply vote for who best aligns with their beliefs instead of who they think can win. I'm sure the media barrage since SC took a toll too.

The primary turnout has been FANTASTIC though; it bodes well for November, even if the electoral college means only a handful of states actually matter.

Same here. The turn against Bernie was palpable with some of my friends as well.

As I’ve said before, I learned my lesson with Obama’s 1st term appointments and have voted on principle ever since. I know....politicians are unprincipled and dishonest?....huge shocker!

But it’s pervasive throughout business and greater society as well. If you’re not lying and cheating your way to the top, you’re the asshole.

I’m afraid of becoming a moralistic old curmudgeon. I hate humans.

∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:29 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 am

Same here. The turn against Bernie was palpable with some of my friends as well.

As I’ve said before, I learned my lesson with Obama’s 1st term appointments and have voted on principle ever since. I know....politicians are unprincipled and dishonest?....huge shocker!

But it’s pervasive throughout business and greater society as well. If you’re not lying and cheating your way to the top, you’re the asshole.

I’m afraid of becoming a moralistic old curmudgeon. I hate humans.

It's very easy for Americans to ignore the working...individual ruggedness and all that fun stuff.

When you have a comfy home, good job, good benefits, good inheritance, nice car, and your "worldly" vacations are Mexican beach resorts and major European cities, you don't have to see the large segment of society who works 16 hours and can't afford rent or education, people who decide between money and their health, folk who can't afford good lawyers and receive prison sentences for minor offenses, immigrants who escape tyranny to find themselves in a cycle of poverty...

...but hey, they should pull themselves up by the bootstrap.

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:13 am Dow Futures up 700 on Joementum.

(Sorry for the harsh transition from the progressive circle jerk )

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:13 am Dow Futures up 700 on Joementum.

(Sorry for the harsh transition from the progressive circle jerk )

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 am

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:13 am Dow Futures up 700 on Joementum.

(Sorry for the harsh transition from the progressive circle jerk )

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:59 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:53 am

The MoFo always jinxes the Hens!

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 am

∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:18 am Had three friends (all older) change their votes from Sanders to Biden this week because they think he can beat Trump. I mean VA was always Biden's to lose, but I really wish people simply vote for who best aligns with their beliefs instead of who they think can win. I'm sure the media barrage since SC took a toll too.

The primary turnout has been FANTASTIC though; it bodes well for November, even if the electoral college means only a handful of states actually matter.

Same here. The turn against Bernie was palpable with some of my friends as well.

As I’ve said before, I learned my lesson with Obama’s 1st term appointments and have voted on principle ever since. I know....politicians are unprincipled and dishonest?....huge shocker!

But it’s pervasive throughout business and greater society as well. If you’re not lying and cheating your way to the top, you’re the asshole.

I’m afraid of becoming a moralistic old curmudgeon. I hate humans.

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:23 am I always kind of wanted a Presidential Library in Delaware.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 am

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:23 am I always kind of wanted a Presidential Library in Delaware.

Bowers Beach?

Frankford?

Shaft Ox Corner?

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:23 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 am

Bowers Beach?

Frankford?

Shaft Ox Corner?

On a pier in Reho

∞∞∞ wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:29 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 am

Same here. The turn against Bernie was palpable with some of my friends as well.

As I’ve said before, I learned my lesson with Obama’s 1st term appointments and have voted on principle ever since. I know....politicians are unprincipled and dishonest?....huge shocker!

But it’s pervasive throughout business and greater society as well. If you’re not lying and cheating your way to the top, you’re the asshole.

I’m afraid of becoming a moralistic old curmudgeon. I hate humans.

It's very easy for Americans to ignore the working poor...individual ruggedness and all that fun stuff.

When you have a comfy home, good job, good benefits, good inheritance, nice car, and your "worldly" vacations are Mexican beach resorts and major European cities, you don't have to see the large segment of society who works 16 hours and can't afford rent or education, people who decide between money and their health, folk who can't afford good lawyers and receive prison sentences for minor offenses, immigrants who escape tyranny to find themselves in a cycle of poverty, the mentally ill who can't hold a job...

...but hey, they should pull themselves up by the bootstrap.

GannonFan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:13 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:50 am

Same here. The turn against Bernie was palpable with some of my friends as well.

As I’ve said before, I learned my lesson with Obama’s 1st term appointments and have voted on principle ever since. I know....politicians are unprincipled and dishonest?....huge shocker!

But it’s pervasive throughout business and greater society as well. If you’re not lying and cheating your way to the top, you’re the asshole.

I’m afraid of becoming a moralistic old curmudgeon. I hate humans.

My Bernie friends are all lamenting the multitude of Boomers that are still voting. They haven't said they're rooting for the coronavirus yet and it's propensity to hit the elderly, but that may only be because they realize how old Bernie is too.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:33 am Tin foil hat alert...

The only reason for Warren to remain in the race is to pound the last few nails in the Sanders coffin.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:33 am Tin foil hat alert...

The only reason for Warren to remain in the race is to pound the last few nails in the Sanders coffin.

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:38 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:33 am Tin foil hat alert...

The only reason for Warren to remain in the race is to pound the last few nails in the Sanders coffin.

DNC at work there.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 am

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:23 am I always kind of wanted a Presidential Library in Delaware.

Bowers Beach?

Frankford?

Shaft Ox Corner?

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:43 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 am

Bowers Beach?

Frankford?

Shaft Ox Corner?

He'd probably build it in Wilmington.

As NCC already has the UD library, it would make more sense to build it in Slower Delaware. I suggest putting it right on the beach. Build it up on the bluff at Herring Point in CHSP. That would be picturesque as hell.

mainejeff wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:43 am

CAA Flagship wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:38 am


DNC at work there.

I was going to vote for Bloomberg a few weeks ago. I voted for Biden yesterday. I never considered Bernie.....ever. The DNC had nothing to do with my vote.

Bernie can go pound sand. I bet he pulls the same thing he did with Hillary and tells Biden to "earn" his supporters votes. He will most likely be responsible for not 1.....but 2 terms of Trump which is deliciously ironic.

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:45 am

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:43 am

He'd probably build it in Wilmington.

As NCC already has the UD library, it would make more sense to build it in Slower Delaware. I suggest putting it right on the beach. Build it up on the bluff at Herring Point in CHSP. That would be picturesque as hell.

Maybe Claymont, which is close enough to the PA state line that he jumps across two or three times a week. At least rhetorically.

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:43 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:20 am

Bowers Beach?

Frankford?

Shaft Ox Corner?

He'd probably build it in Wilmington.

As NCC already has the UD library, it would make more sense to build it in Slower Delaware. I suggest putting it right on the beach. Build it up on the bluff at Herring Point in CHSP. That would be picturesque as hell.

They already have the Biden Environmental Training Center about a quarter mile north.

93henfan wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:46 am

Ivytalk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 8:45 am

Maybe Claymont, which is close enough to the PA state line that he jumps across two or three times a week. At least rhetorically.

I'm trying to put it somewhere nice. I.e. well below the canal.