And there's NO hyperbole in your comment.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?

And there's NO hyperbole in your comment.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behaviorGrizalltheway wrote:Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behaviorGrizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.
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That's why Alphie should love it. He loves Trump, a man who speaks in hyperbole 96.93% of the time.89Hen wrote:And there's NO hyperbole in your comment.Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.
Whatever we decide, just make sure the oligarchs remain charge and US companies can continue extracting wealth from their countries. It’s worked so far.Grizalltheway wrote:Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?
You should read Confessions of an Economic Hitman if you haven't.kalm wrote:Whatever we decide, just make sure the oligarchs remain charge and US companies can continue extracting wealth from their countries. It’s worked so far.Grizalltheway wrote: Yeah, there's NO connection between economic desperation and crime.
(But, but Venezuela!)
I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.Ibanez wrote:89Hen wrote: Improve their economy so their criminals will stay to rob their own people?Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.
Or nuke them. I dunno .
FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.GannonFan wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.Ibanez wrote:Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.
Or nuke them. I dunno .
I think we need to greatly increase the legal means to get here, both in terms of quantity of people allowed and the simple, easy to know process to go about that, while really getting tough on the illegal ways to get here. I think Trump has only really done the latter (which quickly moved into a cruel exercise), and Congress has done pretty much nothing on either front for decades now.
Clearly isolationism is the only solution.Grizalltheway wrote:FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.GannonFan wrote:
I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.
I think we need to greatly increase the legal means to get here, both in terms of quantity of people allowed and the simple, easy to know process to go about that, while really getting tough on the illegal ways to get here. I think Trump has only really done the latter (which quickly moved into a cruel exercise), and Congress has done pretty much nothing on either front for decades now.
Yup, and it's not like we don't have crime and gang problems with US citizens. Improve Mexico or CentAm all you want, it won't be as good as the US, they will still come here and we will still have the same problems with our own people.GannonFan wrote:I don't necessarily disagree with that idea, but to what extent does their economy need to be improved so that they don't see a large enough difference in economic opportunity? Life is pretty sweet in America, political dramas aside. I would think a large swath of people, given the choice to live in most any Central American country (or Caribbean country) or live in the US, would pick the latter.Ibanez wrote:Improve their economy so less of them travel here for economic opportunities, en masse. It's an idea.
Or nuke them. I dunno .
So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?Ibanez wrote:ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:There is no connection only excuses justifying bad behavior
Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkYou're a peach.
50%? What are you talking about?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?Ibanez wrote:You're a peach.
Derp
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First good post you have made in yearsIbanez wrote:Clearly isolationism is the only solution.Grizalltheway wrote: FTR I'm not saying improved economic conditions down there is a panacea for the problem. Now that people like MS-13 have a foothold here it's going to take some time to get rid of them, even if we incompletely shut and militarized the border tomorrow. A good start would be more resources for law enforcement to deal with them.
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All the poor that just live.... Don't make excuses to commit crime. I was being generous with the 50% comment its probably like 80% that dont make excuses for commiting crimeIbanez wrote:50%? What are you talking about?ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:So the other 50% of the poor are just stupid for not commiting crimes?
Derp
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Woodrow Wilson agreesALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:First good post you have made in yearsIbanez wrote:
Clearly isolationism is the only solution.
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Polar vortex.SeattleGriz wrote:Homicides down 30% in Chicago this year. We can thank all the roving bands of MAGA hat wearers policing the city.
Yes but 6.93% of parts are for VWs and Miatas93henfan wrote:So, Trump's prepared to shutter US auto plants?
Because closing the border with Mexico means 16% of parts would be unavailable and they'd have to shut down.
#ArtoftheDealIvytalk wrote:Trump: OK, Mexico, I’m giving you a one-year warning to control the drugs and the Northern Triangle hordes. Then I’ll REALLY close the border!
#Politicalreality #BasiceconomicsIbanez wrote:#ArtoftheDealIvytalk wrote:Trump: OK, Mexico, I’m giving you a one-year warning to control the drugs and the Northern Triangle hordes. Then I’ll REALLY close the border!
..peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard..
This is a person who was raised in fear and ignoranceBDKJMU wrote:Triggered by a MAGA hat.
MAGAPHOBIA