Coronavirus COVID-19

[mainejeff]

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[BDKJMU]

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[kalm]

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There’s some validity to that.

[HI54UNI]

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Thanks Francis!

[Gil Dobie]

[kalm]

[SDHornet]

I'll just leave this here:

I'll just leave this here

Their daily death counts are all over the place with a peak (so far) of 170 on 4/15. Hard to say if it's trending upward. New daily case counts follow a similar pattern. Must be something with their testing strategy.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/

[SDHornet]

Saw a FB post/meme from one of my leftist teacher friends that basically said no one should go back out until the mortality rate from the Chinese Flu is zero.

Yes, zero.

[kalm]

I'll just leave this here

Their daily death counts are all over the place with a peak (so far) of 170 on 4/15. Hard to say if it's trending upward. New daily case counts follow a similar pattern. Must be something with their testing strategy.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/

So an update from the data analytics guy...he agrees with you. Numbers are numbers and they are going to change and deservedly be critiqued. The surveillance state implications are the troublesome part...

“the GIGANTIC ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM ASSUMPTION that we have surveillance level test, track, trace and Quarantine, were months away at best at having that capacity. i love the IMHE models, but they wildly, and I mean wildly over predict in both directions as such they are fairly useless in point estimation, the numbers that matter are testing capacity, public health personnel for test, trace and quarantine and two different R scores, plus infection rate velocity, and active case density, the IMHE model does not factor those decision variables well”

[CID1990]

Several years ago she seemed like a pretty moderate conservative but she’s moved way right into the retard zone


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[Skjellyfetti]

TDS isn't just on the left.

Another example is Clay Travis. Used to be an attorney and college football fan. Actually, wrote one of my favorite books on college football. Made the jump to sports commentary. Since Trump's election he's been trying to dabble in alt-right politics. Currently, he seems to be the leader of the Coronavirus truthers.

[Ivytalk]

Several years ago she seemed like a pretty moderate conservative but she’s moved way right into the retard zone


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Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

[kalm]

Several years ago she seemed like a pretty moderate conservative but she’s moved way right into the retard zone


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Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Tommi Lahren, and Candace Owens ask you to hold their beer.

[mainejeff]

Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Tommi Lahren, and Candace Owens ask you to hold their beer.

[mainejeff]

Why is the Trump Administration against testing?

[Ivytalk]

Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Tommi Lahren, and Candace Owens ask you to hold their beer.

Nah. Coulter has books as well as TV. “Judge” Jeanine can’t hold a candle to her. I really don’t know the other two broads. I don’t watch FNC anymore.

[AZGrizFan]

Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Tommi Lahren, and Candace Owens ask you to hold their beer.

Don’t you be badmouthing my CandyO.... She’s a GODDESS!!!

[UNI88]

Ever since she got her own show. Coulter is still the looniest.

Judge Jeanine Pirro, Tommi Lahren, and Candace Owens ask you to hold their beer.

And AOC, Ilhan Omar and the rest of the Squat say "whoa, hold our mocktails."

[JohnStOnge]

I wish that somehow it'd be possible to get people to understand uncertainty in statistics and modeling. Just heard Cuomo say all the models were wrong about deaths. Not true.

It's been adjusted some now but even as it was on March 31 when Trump had the briefing where he talked about other unnamed models projecting 100,000 through 240,000 deaths overall, the University of Washington Model...again as it was on that date...was projecting that as of April 18 there would be from 27,063 through 54,395 deaths in the United States. As of yesterday, April 18, the CDC had counted 35,443 deaths in the United States.

The point estimate for the Washington Model as of March 31 was 40,220. That's a little higher than the actual number but 1) the point estimate is never exactly correct and 2) the final estimated death total is going to be higher than the case count we are seeing now.

Right now there is no indication that the model "missed." We don't KNOW that the final estimate will be within the 27,063 through 54,395 uncertainty interval. But there's a pretty good chance that it will be.

Big think is it's sad to see how people just continue to NOT understand that they need to look at the uncertainty interval and NOT the point estimate. Bottom line is that the death count is within the range we would've expected to see today if we were trying to project the future back on March 31 using the University of Washington model as it was then.

[89Hen]

Cleets uses memes that are completely false, what's wrong with using one that's only out of date (and clearly has the date)?

I'm not talking about Cleets. I'm talking about another poster who used a WAY out of date graphic to make Coronavirus more insignificant than it really is.

You know guys....it really IS exhausting battling the lies of the Trump Administration, Fox News and this board......

The graphic clearly had the date. My guess is that was what somebody forwarded him. If you can't update the image in your head for today's info, that's on you.

[UNI88]

I'm not talking about Cleets. I'm talking about another poster who used a WAY out of date graphic to make Coronavirus more insignificant than it really is.

You know guys....it really IS exhausting battling the lies of the Trump Administration, Fox News and this board......

The graphic clearly had the date. My guess is that was what somebody forwarded him. If you can't update the image in your head for today's info, that's on you.

If you're struggling with that Geoffrey, we're currently somewhere between Yellow Fever and Swine Flu. And yes, any rational person understands that the number is increasing.

[UNI88]

I'll just leave this here

Their daily death counts are all over the place with a peak (so far) of 170 on 4/15. Hard to say if it's trending upward. New daily case counts follow a similar pattern. Must be something with their testing strategy.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/sweden/

Berenson specifically mentions deaths per capita but Jelly's chart is total deaths. Berenson also admits that deaths per-capita in Sweden have been higher than other Nordic countries but far lower than the U.K., Italy, France, or Spain. Include them in the graph and while we're still missing the per capita comparison, Sweden doesn't look nearly as bad.



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[Chizzang]

The graphic clearly had the date. My guess is that was what somebody forwarded him. If you can't update the image in your head for today's info, that's on you.

If you're struggling with that Geoffrey, we're currently somewhere between Yellow Fever and Swine Flu. And yes, any rational person understands that the number is increasing.

BTW:
I'm not entirely sure how one "uses" a meme... You can post it and then lurk around to view the reactions
Gil has mastered this approach - he clearly doesn't agree with at least half of the memes he posts
but he posts them anyway because - agree or not - they are almost always interesting

I liken it to a fart
Rarely does somebody "use a fart" as a tool to accomplish something
but regardless its always interesting to watch the reactions

[89Hen]

If you're struggling with that Geoffrey, we're currently somewhere between Yellow Fever and Swine Flu. And yes, any rational person understands that the number is increasing.

BTW:
I'm not entirely sure how one "uses" a meme... You can post it and then lurk around to view the reactions
Gil has mastered this approach - he clearly doesn't agree with at least half of the memes he posts
but he posts them anyway because - agree or not - they are almost always interesting

I liken it to a fart
Rarely does somebody "use a fart" as a tool to accomplish something
but regardless its always interesting to watch the reactions

We know you like to purposefully post false information. You've clearly said so. So in your case you are "using a meme" to stir the pot with a shit stick.

[89Hen]

Was on FB this morning a couple of liberal friends thought this meme was so dead on. Unfortunately it wasn't much better than a Z analogy. Folks like these don't really care about accuracy, they just think it's sounds good. Both sides do it, I'm just as happy to call out a conservative friend who posts something similar. However, it's about 10-1 on my friends posting liberal shit on FB.