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Ibanez wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote: Just add more representatives to the House. I don't know why we can't have 8000-10000 representatives.
That would solve nothing.
It would be a better representation of the people and restrict the effects of gerrymandering.

I wouldn't be opposed to a parliamentary system either.
...the House of Representatives is on the very high side of population per representative at 729,000. The population per member in the lower house of other major countries is considerably smaller: Britain and Italy, 97,000; Canada and France, 114,000; Germany, 135,000; Australia, 147,000; and Japan, 265,000.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
Ibanez wrote: That would solve nothing.
It would be a better representation of the people and restrict the effects of gerrymandering.

I wouldn't be opposed to a parliamentary system either.
...the House of Representatives is on the very high side of population per representative at 729,000. The population per member in the lower house of other major countries is considerably smaller: Britain and Italy, 97,000; Canada and France, 114,000; Germany, 135,000; Australia, 147,000; and Japan, 265,000.
https://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2014 ... entatives/
I re-read the article. I can see how that makes sense (and keeps with the intent of the Founding Fathers). If we had maintained the status quo before the 1920 act, how many Reps would we have today?

Btw, there's an interesting argument in that article, in FAVOR of the Electoral College.
Intriguingly, a 2003 article in the political science journal PS argued that had the House increased in size to 500 before the 2000 election, Al Gore would have won, owing to more precise apportionment and, therefore, Electoral College votes in his favor
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kalm wrote:
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If you can’t see that Jon’s been triggered, then there’s no hope for you... :suspicious:
We’re all triggered from time to time, Chachi, especially you. :kisswink: I was more talking about how triggered BDK must be to pull out gay slurs in this instance. See how it works? Probably not. :coffee:
Jon said ‘moron, anti American, racist, Trump *****, ******* stupid, Obama is a n*****, inbred buttbuddy, and whatever else he lobbed at me in that rant, and I say ‘fag’, and somehow I’m the triggered one... :suspicious:

Um, Ok... :roll:
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BDKJMU wrote:
kalm wrote:
We’re all triggered from time to time, Chachi, especially you. :kisswink: I was more talking about how triggered BDK must be to pull out gay slurs in this instance. See how it works? Probably not. :coffee:
Jon said ‘moron, anti American, racist, Trump *****, ******* stupid, Obama is a n*****, inbred buttbuddy, and whatever else he lobbed at me in that rant, and I say ‘fag’, and somehow I’m the triggered one... :suspicious:

Um, Ok... :roll:
It's called satire. You were triggered because you were offended by it. Or perhaps calling Jon a fag was satirical as well? :lol:

Taaaaarigger! :lol:
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Jon said ‘moron, anti American, racist, Trump *****, ******* stupid, Obama is a n*****, inbred buttbuddy, and whatever else he lobbed at me in that rant, and I say ‘fag’, and somehow I’m the triggered one... :suspicious:

Um, Ok... :roll:
It's called satire. You were triggered because you were offended by it. Or perhaps calling Jon a fag was satirical as well? :lol:

Taaaaarigger! :lol:
Sounds like you’re the triggered one with all your posts on this...
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kalm wrote:
BDKJMU wrote: Jon said ‘moron, anti American, racist, Trump *****, ******* stupid, Obama is a n*****, inbred buttbuddy, and whatever else he lobbed at me in that rant, and I say ‘fag’, and somehow I’m the triggered one... :suspicious:

Um, Ok... :roll:
It's called satire. You were triggered because you were offended by it. Or perhaps calling Jon a fag was satirical as well? :lol:

Taaaaarigger! :lol:
Kalm - come on. Satire ?That was classic Jon.
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Ibanez wrote:
kalm wrote:
It's called satire. You were triggered because you were offended by it. Or perhaps calling Jon a fag was satirical as well? :lol:
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Taaaaarigger! :lol:
Kalm - come on. Satire ?That was classic Jon.
You honestly don’t think Jon’s aware enough to recognize the irony of a gay man calling others “butt buddies”? :?
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Ibanez wrote: Kalm - come on. Satire ?That was classic Jon.
You honestly don’t think Jon’s aware enough to recognize the irony of a gay man calling others “butt buddies”? :?
I think Jon flys off the off the handle and thinks that anybody that disagrees with him is a "traitor" or "anti-American." We don't conform to his perspective and we're all in the wrong.
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kalm wrote:
You honestly don’t think Jon’s aware enough to recognize the irony of a gay man calling others “butt buddies”? :?
I think Jon flys off the off the handle and thinks that anybody that disagrees with him is a "traitor" or "anti-American." We don't conform to his perspective and we're all in the wrong.
So you honestly think in a fit of rage, Jon unintentionally used a gay slur ignoring the hypocrisy?
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Gosh

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There's no deflection there at all - you're being perfectly doctrinaire and I'm pointing it out

The left has always been wrong on every caveman state the world has ever had - this year its Iran


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Yeah...and the right's track record is flawless. Why it's almost as though they're both driven by another force. :lol:
You have a keen eye for the obvious, klam
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kalm wrote:
Ibanez wrote: I think Jon flys off the off the handle and thinks that anybody that disagrees with him is a "traitor" or "anti-American." We don't conform to his perspective and we're all in the wrong.
So you honestly think in a fit of rage, Jon unintentionally used a gay slur ignoring the hypocrisy?
I think he was being an ass.
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∞∞∞ wrote:we're economically penalizing citizens
There's the disconnect on diplomacy.
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Well, this move certainly jolted the markets.



They’re all up nearly a percent today. :lol:
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And further validation Trump made the right move for the US:
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93henfan wrote:And further validation Trump made the right move for the US:
I'm sure like Trump, those guys are representative of Iranian society. :nod:
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∞∞∞ wrote:I'm sure like Trump, those guys are representative of Iranian society. :nod:
If you don't think Trump is representative of a great portion of this country you have your head up your arse.

That bitch in NJ who cussed out the cops is representative of a great portion of this country.

Hillary is representative of a great portion of this country.

Chuck Schumer is representative of a great portion of this country.
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89Hen wrote:
∞∞∞ wrote:I'm sure like Trump, those guys are representative of Iranian society. :nod:
If you don't think Trump is representative of a great portion of this country you have your head up your arse.

That bitch in NJ who cussed out the cops is representative of a great portion of this country.

Hillary is representative of a great portion of this country.

Chuck Schumer is representative of a great portion of this country.
So what you're saying is that all sorts of different types represent a nation. Thanks for the breaking news and making my point. :thumb:
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∞∞∞ wrote:
93henfan wrote:And further validation Trump made the right move for the US:
I'm sure like Trump, those guys are representative of Iranian society. :nod:
It doesn’t really matter who “those guys” are. Most of us here have been watching Iran with amusement for 40 years now. There sure are a lot of those guys (and girls). Real progressives there in your enlightened muzzieville:

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∞∞∞ wrote:
93henfan wrote:And further validation Trump made the right move for the US:
I'm sure like Trump, those guys are representative of Iranian society. :nod:
They look like the grown up versions of the people celebrating in the streets when the twin towers fell. :coffee:
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Hey 70s peeps, remember these?

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93henfan wrote:IIt doesn’t really matter who “those guys” are. Most of us here have been watching Iran with amusement for 40 years now. There sure are a lot of those guys (and girls). Real progressives there in your enlightened muzzieville
You think there's a reason why Iranians and middle-easterners could have an issue with the United States? I can't think of anything we've done to depress that part of the world in the last 30+ years.

I do think fucking them over and over, degrading their society, and calling them terrorists until they bow down to American exceptionalism is a good solution though. That's how every friend in life is made.

The fact is that Iran has been changing for the better in recent years. It's not there and it'll never be what America wants, but demographically, the writing is on the wall. But the deed is done; we've abandoned Iran. We've abandoned a young nation that's itching for change. We've abandoned a large economic market. And worst of all, we've abandoned the chance to exert strong diplomatic influence in the region.
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∞∞∞ wrote:
89Hen wrote: If you don't think Trump is representative of a great portion of this country you have your head up your arse.

That bitch in NJ who cussed out the cops is representative of a great portion of this country.

Hillary is representative of a great portion of this country.

Chuck Schumer is representative of a great portion of this country.
So what you're saying is that all sorts of different types represent a nation. Thanks for the breaking news and making my point. :thumb:
Almost. You were trying to say those Iranians are not representative of the people of Iran. They are. Not everyone, but they are. So try again.

My guess is you've met Iranians before (I have) who did not like Iran and weren't like those idiots. I'm also guessing you met them in the US, meaning they left Iran, for good reason.
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89Hen wrote:
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So what you're saying is that all sorts of different types represent a nation. Thanks for the breaking news and making my point. :thumb:
Almost. You were trying to say those Iranians are not representative of the people of Iran. They are. Not everyone, but they are. So try again.
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