This. Anyone thinking there isn't an issue with illegal immigration on the southern border is completely clueless.AZGrizFan wrote:I disagree. There IS a crisis on the southern border...Not sure a “national emergency” declaration is the path to a solution, but there most definitely IS a crisis on the border. I’ve lived in border states for the past 28 years. There’s a crisis.Ibanez wrote: There still isn’t a crisis. Border crossings are at historical lows, most drugs come through PoE. Our immigration laws need to be enforced and we could use some extra support where it matters.
But Trump has fabricated this crisis so his low-information base won’t bail on him after he’s caved on the wall during the shutdown and caved on his promise that Mexico will pay.
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Ivytalk wrote:Let me rephrase for you, Russian. How many of Putin’s jackbooted thugs pouring across the Ukraine border is too many?AZGrizFan wrote:
Well, since mark won’t answer I’ll ask you...what’s your number? What number is “ok” and at what point does a crisis exist?
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Looks like libertarian Justin Amash is the only GOP Congressman thus far to sign on to the Donk resolution opposing the “national emergency.” Good to see at least one nominal Republican who will stand up for Constitutional principle.
That said, all the Donks are political opportunists who invoke the Constitution because ... Trump.
That said, all the Donks are political opportunists who invoke the Constitution because ... Trump.
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HotAir called this the “How Dare You Use The Authority We Surrendered 43 Years Ago” billIvytalk wrote:Looks like libertarian Justin Amash is the only GOP Congressman thus far to sign on to the Donk resolution opposing the “national emergency.” Good to see at least one nominal Republican who will stand up for Constitutional principle.![]()
That said, all the Donks are political opportunists who invoke the Constitution because ... Trump.
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Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.
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You and your post are meaninglessSkjellyfetti wrote:Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.
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That was uncalled for. Amash has a better concept of liberty than you and your Russian partner put together.Skjellyfetti wrote:Wow. You finally removed Amash's dick from your mouth.
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Not saying anything negative about Amash.
We're on the same side on this "National Emergency"
We're on the same side on this "National Emergency"
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Good to hear it. Remember that post next time we have a Democratic POTUS who can’t get what (s)he wants from Congress.Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash.![]()
We're on the same side on this "National Emergency"![]()
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Then what were you saying?Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash.![]()
We're on the same side on this "National Emergency"![]()
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2/21
“Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html
“Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html
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Probably something about the Constitution just being a piece of paper or something.CID1990 wrote:Then what were you saying?Skjellyfetti wrote:Not saying anything negative about Amash.![]()
We're on the same side on this "National Emergency"![]()
You were doing some of your trademark shallow binary thinking again, weren’t you?
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What’s a bollard?BDKJMU wrote:2/21
“Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html
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BollardsIvytalk wrote:What’s a bollard?BDKJMU wrote:2/21
“Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html

Bollard style border fence

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Never Mind the Bollards ...Ivytalk wrote:What’s a bollard?BDKJMU wrote:2/21
“Construction begins on 30-foot-tall border wall in San Diego
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Construction has begun on the fifth border wall project of Donald Trump's presidency, replacing up to 14 miles of barrier in San Diego.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said Tuesday that the first panels are in place to replace a steel-mesh fence with steel bollards up to 30 feet high. SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, was awarded the $101 million contract in December.
It is the second layer of barrier in San Diego. Work on replacing the first layer is nearly complete, which is also 14 miles long and made of steel bollards up to 30 feet high...”
https://www.kmov.com/construction-begin ... 6.amp.html
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Thanks. I’ve heard of collards, but dem tings ain’t no greens.HI54UNI wrote:BollardsIvytalk wrote: What’s a bollard?
Bollard style border fence
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So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.
So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.
So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.
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There are two checks on the executive. They won't be able to override the veto... but SCOTUS will finish it off, imo.
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Maybe, if SCOTUS doesn’t find some lame-ass political question argument to duck it.Skjellyfetti wrote:There are two checks on the executive. They won't be able to override the veto... but SCOTUS will finish it off, imo.
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I’m fine with the Senate voting this down. It’s a piss poor use of the national emergency declaration.
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Agreed.AZGrizFan wrote:I’m fine with the Senate voting this down. It’s a piss poor use of the national emergency declaration.
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I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.Ivytalk wrote:So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.
So Trump will cast his first veto. This saga ain’t over yet, folks.
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Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.Ibanez wrote:I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.Ivytalk wrote:So, 12 Republicans joined all the Senate Donks in passing the resolution to disapprove the “emergency.” Ben Sasse, the “Constitutional conservative,” tripped over his dyck on this one and claimed the resolution was overbroad. Of course, Nebraska is deep red, and Sasse is up for re-election in 2020. Very disappointing. He’s off my list. Lindsey Graham folded into the crack of Trump’s ass as well. But good on Toomey and Portman.
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I was just reading about it, the article on Politico saysIvytalk wrote:Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.Ibanez wrote: I noticed that Sasse had been quiet up until this week about this whole ordeal. I would've figured he'd be the first person to publicly say he'd vote it down.
The White House did appear to have sway on Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, who initially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post denouncing Trump's emergency declaration. But prior to the vote Tillis announced he would vote against the resolution,
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I guess Tillis is worried about getting primaried by a Tar Heel Trumpbot. He’s up next year as well.Ibanez wrote:I was just reading about it, the article on Politico saysIvytalk wrote: Tillis changed his vote to “no” at the last minute, right? Another paragon of principle.The White House did appear to have sway on Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, who initially wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post denouncing Trump's emergency declaration. But prior to the vote Tillis announced he would vote against the resolution,
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