2020 General Election

[UNI88]

I don't understand this concern among conservatives about lying when they openly support a president that lies about everything - and mostly about things that are ego driven like the size of a crowd.

Well there's your answer. Not all lies are the same. Some have no effect. Some cover up wrongdoings that are in the interest of the people they are supposed to be serving/representing. While all lies matter, politicians have caused us to adjust the bar within those lies to a new "breaking point" level of tolerance.

Do you really think that Trump supporters wouldn't completely overlook it if he lied about bigger things (if he hasn't already)? They're all in and they're going to ignore or rationalize anything he does or has done while criticizing his opponents for similar or lesser things (Creepy Joe with 8 allegations of sexual misconduct, but no problem with the 25+ for Trump).

[Ibanez]

Well there's your answer. Not all lies are the same. Some have no effect. Some cover up wrongdoings that are in the interest of the people they are supposed to be serving/representing. While all lies matter, politicians have caused us to adjust the bar within those lies to a new "breaking point" level of tolerance.

Do you really think that Trump supporters wouldn't completely overlook it if he lied about bigger things (if he hasn't already)? They're all in and they're going to ignore or rationalize anything he does or has done while criticizing his opponents for similar or lesser things (Creepy Joe with 8 allegations of sexual misconduct, but no problem with the 25+ for Trump).

Not to mention Trump boasting how will happily sexually assault your daughter if given the chance.

[AZGrizFan]

Well there's your answer. Not all lies are the same. Some have no effect. Some cover up wrongdoings that are in the interest of the people they are supposed to be serving/representing. While all lies matter, politicians have caused us to adjust the bar within those lies to a new "breaking point" level of tolerance.

Do you really think that Trump supporters wouldn't completely overlook it if he lied about bigger things (if he hasn't already)? They're all in and they're going to ignore or rationalize anything he does or has done while criticizing his opponents for similar or lesser things (Creepy Joe with 8 allegations of sexual misconduct, but no problem with the 25+ for Trump).

Actually, I have a huge problem with that. But if I have to live with a politician lying and remaining in office, it's going to be one with whom I agree on policy issues.

[Pwns]

Do you really think that Trump supporters wouldn't completely overlook it if he lied about bigger things (if he hasn't already)? They're all in and they're going to ignore or rationalize anything he does or has done while criticizing his opponents for similar or lesser things (Creepy Joe with 8 allegations of sexual misconduct, but no problem with the 25+ for Trump).

Actually, I have a huge problem with that. But if I have to live with a politician lying and remaining in office, it's going to be one with whom I agree on policy issues.

And also, I prefer a politician that sucks at lying to one that's a Olympic-level liar.

[UNI88]

Actually, I have a huge problem with that. But if I have to live with a politician lying and remaining in office, it's going to be one with whom I agree on policy issues.

And also, I prefer a politician that sucks at lying to one that's a Olympic-level liar.

Who is who in this instance?

I'm guessing that Biden is an Olympic-level liar. I wouldn't say the Trump sucks at lying, he just lies so frequently and doesn't give a sh!t if anyone outside of his ardent followers don't believe him.

[UNI88]

Do you really think that Trump supporters wouldn't completely overlook it if he lied about bigger things (if he hasn't already)? They're all in and they're going to ignore or rationalize anything he does or has done while criticizing his opponents for similar or lesser things (Creepy Joe with 8 allegations of sexual misconduct, but no problem with the 25+ for Trump).

Actually, I have a huge problem with that. But if I have to live with a politician lying and remaining in office, it's going to be one with whom I agree on policy issues.

For every admitted Trump supporter like you there are probably 9 that think Biden is a creepy sexual predator and Trump isn't. They've drank the kool-aid and think he can do no wrong. It's as scary of a cult as the woke, ctrl-Left.

[AZGrizFan]

And also, I prefer a politician that sucks at lying to one that's a Olympic-level liar.

Who is who in this instance?

I'm guessing that Biden is an Olympic-level liar. I wouldn't say the Trump sucks at lying, he just lies so frequently and doesn't give a sh!t if anyone outside of his ardent followers don't believe him.

I would say he sucks at lying. So bad that EVERYONE knows he's lying...as opposed to Biden or Hildabeast, who've perfected the art and could sell ice to eskimos.

[Ibanez]

Who is who in this instance?

I'm guessing that Biden is an Olympic-level liar. I wouldn't say the Trump sucks at lying, he just lies so frequently and doesn't give a sh!t if anyone outside of his ardent followers don't believe him.

I would say he sucks at lying. So bad that EVERYONE knows he's lying...as opposed to Biden or Hildabeast, who've perfected the art and could sell ice to eskimos.

Yes, that's someone we should have leading our Republic.

[CID1990]

I wonder if we’ll still hear about nepotism and using ones office for personal enrichment once Biden takes office?

Or will his boy just upgrade his biz trips to China from Veep One to Air Force One?

I’m guessing like the Tea Party, Tha Resistunce will largely go back to being OK with the End of the Republic

[AZGrizFan]

I would say he sucks at lying. So bad that EVERYONE knows he's lying...as opposed to Biden or Hildabeast, who've perfected the art and could sell ice to eskimos.

Yes, that's someone we should have leading our Republic.

Well again, the alternative is even worse. A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions.

[UNI88]

I wonder if we’ll still hear about nepotism and using ones office for personal enrichment once Biden takes office?

Or will his boy just upgrade his biz trips to China from Veep One to Air Force One?

I’m guessing like the Tea Party, Tha Resistunce will largely go back to being OK with the End of the Republic

Yep, they'll exchange playbooks and the subjects of their rage/rationalizations will flip 180 degrees.

[Ibanez]

Yes, that's someone we should have leading our Republic.

Well again, the alternative is even worse. A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions.

A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions vs A sexual predator and liar with horrible policy positions. Those are two shitty choices.


But they aren't the only choices.

[Ibanez]

I wonder if we’ll still hear about nepotism and using ones office for personal enrichment once Biden takes office?

Or will his boy just upgrade his biz trips to China from Veep One to Air Force One?

I’m guessing like the Tea Party, Tha Resistunce will largely go back to being OK with the End of the Republic

[AZGrizFan]

Well again, the alternative is even worse. A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions.

A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions vs A sexual predator and liar with horrible policy positions. Those are two shitty choices.


But they aren't the only choices.

Trumps policy positions suck much, much less than Biden's.

[CID1990]

That's not court packing.

See Ivy's response.

Pack The Court

I want to see thousands of judges on the Supreme Court before I die. I hope Biden goes nuclear on 1st street.

That’s the best thing about Democrats -

The first thing they do after winning majorities is to start finding ways to lose them

It’s like a built in kill switch


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[SDHornet]

Only a matter of time until we know if this happens.

[Ivytalk]

Well again, the alternative is even worse. A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions.

A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions vs A sexual predator and liar with horrible policy positions. Those are two shitty choices.


But they aren't the only choices.

So lefty Ibanez will rationalize a vote for the Libertarian candidate, even though he’s not a libertarian.

[Ibanez]

A pedophile liar with horrible policy positions vs A sexual predator and liar with horrible policy positions. Those are two shitty choices.


But they aren't the only choices.

So lefty Ibanez will rationalize a vote for the Libertarian candidate, even though he’s not a libertarian.

I don't believe I am rationalizing,there are two bad options and i'm choosing the third. I'm actually in your camp on the whole, 3rd Party thing. People complain about having no option but ignore the third one when it's presented b/c "they can't win." I do wish the Libertarians were more aggressive in local and state elections. It seems they only put the efforts into an election every 4 years.

[Pwns]

The prog base will be really thrilled if "Kamala the cop" is the VP.

[CID1990]

I got called a Nazi enabler on FB the other day because of my refusal to vote for the monied parties.

I am a libertarian but I don’t feel particularly loyal to the LP- I think their positions on free trade and immigration are noble, but they only really work when the rest of the world is of a libertarian bent, as well.

But - about this enabling of despots, Commies, Nazis, generalissimos, and other assorted boogeymen by voting 3rd party... if an election involving a Hitler or a Stalin in America is so close that it needs libertarian or Green voters to keep the aforementioned types out of the highest office, then it isn’t the 3rd parties that are the problem.


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[Ivytalk]

So lefty Ibanez will rationalize a vote for the Libertarian candidate, even though he’s not a libertarian.

I don't believe I am rationalizing,there are two bad options and i'm choosing the third. I'm actually in your camp on the whole, 3rd Party thing. People complain about having no option but ignore the third one when it's presented b/c "they can't win." I do wish the Libertarians were more aggressive in local and state elections. It seems they only put the efforts into an election every 4 years.

Actually, Libertarians have had electoral success only at the state and local level, and pretty low-level offices for the most part: small-town mayors, city councils, town aldermen, utility boards, school boards, the occasional state rep, etc. Most of us realize that you have to build a party from the ground up. You can’t sashay into an election for federal office and expect instant success, especially the way the system is rigged, er, set up to favor the duopoly.

[kalm]

The prog base will be really thrilled if "Kamala the cop" is the VP.

I’m detecting some sarcasm here...

[houndawg]

so parochial.....

Lions! Tigers! Bears! Putin!

Oh my

If Trump s behaving like Putin’s buddy I’d hate to see enmity


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He'll suck Putin off in Red Square in return for the OK to build a hotel in Moscow.

He probably hasn't thought about what happens when you stiff the Russian mob yet.

[houndawg]

The prog base will be really thrilled if "Kamala the cop" is the VP.

I’m detecting some sarcasm here...

Best pick would be Duckworth but I don't know if she'd boost black turnout

[houndawg]

I got called a Nazi enabler on FB the other day because of my refusal to vote for the monied parties.

I am a libertarian but I don’t feel particularly loyal to the LP- I think their positions on free trade and immigration are noble, but they only really work when the rest of the world is of a libertarian bent, as well.

But - about this enabling of despots, Commies, Nazis, generalissimos, and other assorted boogeymen by voting 3rd party... if an election involving a Hitler or a Stalin in America is so close that it needs libertarian or Green voters to keep the aforementioned types out of the highest office, then it isn’t the 3rd parties that are the problem.


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I get the same sort of shit for criticizing Biden. It doesn't bother me that Bernie isn't the nominee as much as how they did it