Especially environmental.kalm wrote:2). Golf course owners should be exempt from most laws.


Especially environmental.kalm wrote:2). Golf course owners should be exempt from most laws.



It cannot be released in its entirety due to protecting witnesses and other things. Hopefully, we get a lot of it released. We do know collusion is a big fat triple deluxe Nothing burger.∞∞∞ wrote:Yeah I will obsess about this. Unlike you, I actually give a **** about democratic norms. There are people who turn the other cheek and say, "meh," and allow good things to die. And there are others who give a damn.Ivytalk wrote: Obsess much? You’re turning into mini-JSO
Y'all have become so jaded and gas-lighted by the last two years that you think any of this is normal.
"He obstructed justice, but meh, at least he didn't collude. It's all good"
In a strong democracy that's not good.
Puleeez!!!!89Hen wrote:Can we close this thread now?

Rather than starting a new thread about how Comey’s FBI could have gotten the FISA warrant on Carter Page without the Steele dossier, I think we should put all of that herecss75 wrote:Puleeez!!!!89Hen wrote:Can we close this thread now?
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Right. So how many non-Taibbi articles from RS have I posted you schmuck? Maybe one or two by Hastings? Maybe none at all. Sorry your economic sensibilities were hurt back then.CID1990 wrote:Since the article is mainly about the media then it’s a safe bet I’m talking about Rolling Stone
BTW - there are no “yes buts” here - a majority of the mainstream media regularly engaged in partisan malpractice in this debacle
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89Hen wrote:Especially environmental.kalm wrote:2). Golf course owners should be exempt from most laws.

We already know that you’re OK with a little bit of journalistic malfeasance... as long as it isn’t full bore like InfoWars (even they occasionally report a fact or two). You’ve defended RS and even RT here beforekalm wrote:Right. So how many non-Taibbi articles from RS have I posted you schmuck? Maybe one or two by Hastings? Maybe none at all. Sorry your economic sensibilities were hurt back then.CID1990 wrote:Since the article is mainly about the media then it’s a safe bet I’m talking about Rolling Stone
BTW - there are no “yes buts” here - a majority of the mainstream media regularly engaged in partisan malpractice in this debacle
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Nice dodge. I will grant you RT (something you’d never do) but again, point out some RS articles I linked that were incorrect. There might actually be some but few and far between...so happy hunting.CID1990 wrote:We already know that you’re OK with a little bit of journalistic malfeasance... as long as it isn’t full bore like InfoWars (even they occasionally report a fact or two). You’ve defended RS and even RT here beforekalm wrote:
Right. So how many non-Taibbi articles from RS have I posted you schmuck? Maybe one or two by Hastings? Maybe none at all. Sorry your economic sensibilities were hurt back then.![]()
Just one or two manufactured stories is OK as long as the editorial board doesn’t go TOO overboard with it
I guess I have a higher bar than that
Is just a little police corruption OK?
How about a little bit of medical degree fraud?
Democracy dies in darkness, klam
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Nice dodge. I will grant you RT (something you’d never do) but again, point out some RS articles I linked that were incorrect. There might actually be some but few and far between...so happy hunting.CID1990 wrote:We already know that you’re OK with a little bit of journalistic malfeasance... as long as it isn’t full bore like InfoWars (even they occasionally report a fact or two). You’ve defended RS and even RT here beforekalm wrote:
Right. So how many non-Taibbi articles from RS have I posted you schmuck? Maybe one or two by Hastings? Maybe none at all. Sorry your economic sensibilities were hurt back then.![]()
Just one or two manufactured stories is OK as long as the editorial board doesn’t go TOO overboard with it
I guess I have a higher bar than that
Is just a little police corruption OK?
How about a little bit of medical degree fraud?
Democracy dies in darkness, klam
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I didn’t say you posted articles (that’s a straw man you just did). Sorry I made you think I was implying that.kalm wrote:Nice dodge. I will grant you RT (something you’d never do) but again, point out some RS articles I linked that were incorrect. There might actually be some but few and far between...so happy hunting.CID1990 wrote:
We already know that you’re OK with a little bit of journalistic malfeasance... as long as it isn’t full bore like InfoWars (even they occasionally report a fact or two). You’ve defended RS and even RT here before
Just one or two manufactured stories is OK as long as the editorial board doesn’t go TOO overboard with it
I guess I have a higher bar than that
Is just a little police corruption OK?
How about a little bit of medical degree fraud?
Democracy dies in darkness, klam
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You need to stop watching fake news. Only FOX has shown they are not liars.JohnStOnge wrote:You guys that think the summary Barr sent to Congress yesterday put this to rest are sadly mistaken. And that's because for some reason Mueller decided not to reach a conclusion on obstruction of justice then the guy who as a private citizen wrote an op ed on it not being possible for a President to commit obstruction of justice made the call.
I don't think there was any good way out once Muller decided not to make the call. If Barr makes the call the questions are obvious. If he declines to make the call and refers it to Congress the questions are obvious. But either way the fact that Mueller didn't make a call means this thing is a LONG way from dead.


Yawn. You were taking shots at my posting RS articles from years ago within the last few weeks. It’s ok...I forgive you.CID1990 wrote:I didn’t say you posted articles (that’s a straw man you just did). Sorry I made you think I was implying that.kalm wrote:
Nice dodge. I will grant you RT (something you’d never do) but again, point out some RS articles I linked that were incorrect. There might actually be some but few and far between...so happy hunting.
You HAVE jumped in and defended RS a few times - I’m not Jelly and not going to keyword search all your posts
maybe I can contract him to do it I think he has free time on his hands now
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Both are delusional at best on a good dayIvytalk wrote:StWronge is in negotiations with SmellyBelly to take over the thread.


ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:You mighthoundawg wrote:
....does somebody need a safe space?
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JohnStOnge wrote:You guys that think the summary Barr sent to Congress yesterday put this to rest are sadly mistaken. And that's because for some reason Mueller decided not to reach a conclusion on obstruction of justice then the guy who as a private citizen wrote an op ed on it not being possible for a President to commit obstruction of justice made the call.
I don't think there was any good way out once Muller decided not to make the call. If Barr makes the call the questions are obvious. If he declines to make the call and refers it to Congress the questions are obvious. But either way the fact that Mueller didn't make a call means this thing is a LONG way from dead.


Ibanez wrote:But your posts suggest otherwise. You don't follow democratic norms.∞∞∞ wrote: Yeah I will obsess about this. Unlike you, I actually give a shit about democratic norms. There are people who turn the other cheek and say, "meh," and allow good things to die. And there are others who give a damn.
Y'all have become so jaded and gas-lighted by the last two years that you think any of this is normal.
"He obstructed justice, but meh, at least he didn't collude. It's all good"
In a strong democracy that's not good.
And like Cid said, there are people that know better than you about this. YOu should perhaps listen to them.
Hey, Trip, do you know who doesn't listen to the experts and people with more experience than himself?
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This.GannonFan wrote:This thing will never be shutdown. In all of the annals of message board history, I'm not sure there's a bigger swing and a miss than what Jelly managed to do in this thread. This thread will be enshrined forever. Even if Jelly never shows up again. This is his 6.93 moment taken to the 6.93 power.89Hen wrote:Can we close this thread now?

Agree. The fallout for the gubmint partisans that took an active role in this debacle now get to get talked about.CID1990 wrote:Rather than starting a new thread about how Comey’s FBI could have gotten the FISA warrant on Carter Page without the Steele dossier, I think we should put all of that herecss75 wrote:
Puleeez!!!!
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BDKJMU wrote:JohnStOnge wrote:You guys that think the summary Barr sent to Congress yesterday put this to rest are sadly mistaken. And that's because for some reason Mueller decided not to reach a conclusion on obstruction of justice then the guy who as a private citizen wrote an op ed on it not being possible for a President to commit obstruction of justice made the call.
I don't think there was any good way out once Muller decided not to make the call. If Barr makes the call the questions are obvious. If he declines to make the call and refers it to Congress the questions are obvious. But either way the fact that Mueller didn't make a call means this thing is a LONG way from dead.

All I said was that Taibbi jumped in to throw a little shade at the media (true), that he's your dude (true), and that if anyone ought to know about media shenanigans, it would be a guy who has the misfortune of working at an outlet that nuked its own credibility (TRUE).kalm wrote:Yawn. You were taking shots at my posting RS articles from years ago within the last few weeks. It’s ok...I forgive you.CID1990 wrote:
I didn’t say you posted articles (that’s a straw man you just did). Sorry I made you think I was implying that.
You HAVE jumped in and defended RS a few times - I’m not Jelly and not going to keyword search all your posts
maybe I can contract him to do it I think he has free time on his hands now
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