2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[AZGrizFan]

I think you're right. It's feigned outrage and that doesn't sell very well to the center. Independents know they're still politicians. It's like Hillary pretending to be populist and for the little guy.

Watching these faux progressives climb all over each other seeing who can go the furthest left and kiss the asses of the commie AOC's of the world is commie-cal. Then when they have to backtrack all that shit in the general it's gonna be a bloodbath.

[kalm]

I think you're right. It's feigned outrage and that doesn't sell very well to the center. Independents know they're still politicians. It's like Hillary pretending to be populist and for the little guy.

Watching these faux progressives climb all over each other seeing who can go the furthest left and kiss the asses of the commie AOC's of the world is commie-cal. Then when they have to backtrack all that shit in the general it's gonna be a bloodbath.

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[css75]

Only people in Florida care....but **** it, that place is ALREADY a swamp...let's let sea levels rise 10-12 feet and just be done with Florida.

In a couple of decades there will be 10 billion people on the planet and nothing to eat in the oceans.

Nah, we will have a war with nukes to lower it a bit.


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[CID1990]

Only people in Florida care....but **** it, that place is ALREADY a swamp...let's let sea levels rise 10-12 feet and just be done with Florida.

In a couple of decades there will be 10 billion people on the planet and nothing to eat in the oceans.

There’s a culling of the herd coming

It’s in the mail and cannot be recalled


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[mainejeff]

In a couple of decades there will be 10 billion people on the planet and nothing to eat in the oceans.

Nah, we will have a war with nukes to lower it a bit.


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You gonna keep that nuclear fallout in check with your invisible force field?

[houndawg]

In a couple of decades there will be 10 billion people on the planet and nothing to eat in the oceans.

There’s a culling of the herd coming

It’s in the mail and cannot be recalled


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The trick will be in keeping it confined to the lower classes.

[SDHornet]

Oh this is pure entertainment. The shitshow circus of the '16 conk primary won't hold a candle to the 2020 donk primary. Grab your popcorn folks!

The potential is there but I expect it to underperform entertainment-wise because of the shade cast by Putin and Trump.

There's already a long ass thread created by jellybelly that has yet to bear fruit for this narrative.

[Skjellyfetti]

It's been one of the most entertaining threads on the forum.

Learn to enjoy Mueller's edging. The climax will be all the more enjoyable.

[css75]

It's been one of the most entertaining threads on the forum.

Learn to enjoy Mueller's edging. The climax will be all the more enjoyable.

Especially when Bueller says no collusion. He is iii desperation mode.


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[SDHornet]

It's been one of the most entertaining threads on the forum.

Learn to enjoy Mueller's edging. The climax will be all the more enjoyable.

Especially when Bueller says no collusion. He is iii desperation mode.


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The irony.

But hey at least he got Manafort on crimes that predate the Trump campaign by a decade or so.

[Skjellyfetti]

Nice try. But, his crimes were also during the campaign... and after... and, right up through 2018. Hasn't been charged with anything he committed in 2019 yet, though.

[mainejeff]

I think you're right. It's feigned outrage and that doesn't sell very well to the center. Independents know they're still politicians. It's like Hillary pretending to be populist and for the little guy.

Watching these faux progressives climb all over each other seeing who can go the furthest left and kiss the asses of the commie AOC's of the world is commie-cal. Then when they have to backtrack all that shit in the general it's gonna be a bloodbath.

Says the guy that supports the biggest Commie.....Donald J. Trump.

[houndawg]

It's been one of the most entertaining threads on the forum.

Learn to enjoy Mueller's edging. The climax will be all the more enjoyable.

Especially when Bueller says no collusion. He is iii desperation mode.


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Trump has been running a criminal enterprise for decades and is considered sleazy even for the world of NYC real estate. He's guilty a fuck of many things and Mueller has a 100% conviction rate. Nobody cares what they get him for as long as they get him.

Like Al Capone.

[css75]

Especially when Bueller says no collusion. He is iii desperation mode.


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Trump has been running a criminal enterprise for decades and is considered sleazy even for the world of NYC real estate. He's guilty a **** of many things and Mueller has a 100% conviction rate. Nobody cares what they get him for as long as they get him.

Like Al Capone.

TDS has got a solid grip on you.


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[kalm]

Trump has been running a criminal enterprise for decades and is considered sleazy even for the world of NYC real estate. He's guilty a **** of many things and Mueller has a 100% conviction rate. Nobody cares what they get him for as long as they get him.

Like Al Capone.

TDS has got a solid grip on you.


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You and at least a dozen other people in the world don’t think Trump is crooked as hell.

[houndawg]

TDS has got a solid grip on you.


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You and at least a dozen other people in the world don’t think Trump is crooked as hell.

Traitor Defense Syndrome has a solid grip on him.

[JohnStOnge]

Ok another poll came out today that has any Democrat the pollsters asked about beating Trump head to head among respondents; though it does show that Shultz could screw things up for the Democrats in a three way.

Its an Emerson College poll. See http://emersonpolling.com/2019/02/16/ma ... extension/.

In head-to-head matchups on the 2020 ballot against President Trump, all Democrats have a lead over the President, though all differences are within the margin of error, with one exception. When asked if voters would cast their ballots for Biden or Trump, 55% said they would vote for Biden, and 45% for Trump.

List of other hypothetical 2020 Ballot Tests:

Trump 47% v. Elizabeth Warren 53%
Trump 49% v. Bernie Sanders 51%
Trump 48% v. Kamala Harris 52%
Trump 47% v. Beto O’Rourke 53%
Trump 49% v. Amy Klobuchar 51%
Trump 49% v. Cory Booker 51%
Trump 48% v. Sherrod Brown 52%

The bottom line is that nothing has significantly changed in that regard as Trump lost ground in approval ratings then gained some ground back. He is a weak candidate.

Saddest result of this poll, BTW, is that more Republicans picked Trump as their favorite President of the past 40 years than picked Reagan. 44% to 29%. That's sad. Really sad.

A critical mass of Republicans have truly lost their minds.

[css75]

Ok another poll came out today that has any Democrat the pollsters asked about beating Trump head to head among respondents; though it does show that Shultz could screw things up for the Democrats in a three way.

Its an Emerson College poll. See http://emersonpolling.com/2019/02/16/ma ... extension/.

In head-to-head matchups on the 2020 ballot against President Trump, all Democrats have a lead over the President, though all differences are within the margin of error, with one exception. When asked if voters would cast their ballots for Biden or Trump, 55% said they would vote for Biden, and 45% for Trump.

List of other hypothetical 2020 Ballot Tests:

Trump 47% v. Elizabeth Warren 53%
Trump 49% v. Bernie Sanders 51%
Trump 48% v. Kamala Harris 52%
Trump 47% v. Beto O’Rourke 53%
Trump 49% v. Amy Klobuchar 51%
Trump 49% v. Cory Booker 51%
Trump 48% v. Sherrod Brown 52%

The bottom line is that nothing has significantly changed in that regard as Trump lost ground in approval ratings then gained some ground back. He is a weak candidate.

Saddest result of this poll, BTW, is that more Republicans picked Trump as their favorite President of the past 40 years than picked Reagan. 44% to 29%. That's sad. Really sad.

A critical mass of Republicans have truly lost their minds.

Wait till people know what those lunatics want to do.


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[JohnStOnge]

Ok another poll came out today that has any Democrat the pollsters asked about beating Trump head to head among respondents; though it does show that Shultz could screw things up for the Democrats in a three way.

Its an Emerson College poll. See http://emersonpolling.com/2019/02/16/ma ... extension/.



The bottom line is that nothing has significantly changed in that regard as Trump lost ground in approval ratings then gained some ground back. He is a weak candidate.

Saddest result of this poll, BTW, is that more Republicans picked Trump as their favorite President of the past 40 years than picked Reagan. 44% to 29%. That's sad. Really sad.

A critical mass of Republicans have truly lost their minds.

Wait till people know what those lunatics want to do.

I think there may be something to that with some of the candidates even though I think people do know what Bernie Sanders wants to do. But if the Democratic candidate is Sherrod Brown, Amy Kobuchar, or Joe Biden they will not be like that.

The big point is that the Republicans have a very weak candidate by incumbent standards who is where he is because of a very unique set of circumstances that shot Hillary Clinton down. Had he been running against Sanders he'd have been creamed. Had he been running against Obama he'd have been creamed. And if he'd have been running against a Hillary Clinton who hadn't been foolish enough to do that private e mail server thing he'd have been creamed.

[AZGrizFan]

Ok another poll came out today that has any Democrat the pollsters asked about beating Trump head to head among respondents; though it does show that Shultz could screw things up for the Democrats in a three way.

Its an Emerson College poll. See http://emersonpolling.com/2019/02/16/ma ... extension/.

In head-to-head matchups on the 2020 ballot against President Trump, all Democrats have a lead over the President, though all differences are within the margin of error, with one exception. When asked if voters would cast their ballots for Biden or Trump, 55% said they would vote for Biden, and 45% for Trump.

List of other hypothetical 2020 Ballot Tests:

Trump 47% v. Elizabeth Warren 53%
Trump 49% v. Bernie Sanders 51%
Trump 48% v. Kamala Harris 52%
Trump 47% v. Beto O’Rourke 53%
Trump 49% v. Amy Klobuchar 51%
Trump 49% v. Cory Booker 51%
Trump 48% v. Sherrod Brown 52%

The bottom line is that nothing has significantly changed in that regard as Trump lost ground in approval ratings then gained some ground back. He is a weak candidate.

Saddest result of this poll, BTW, is that more Republicans picked Trump as their favorite President of the past 40 years than picked Reagan. 44% to 29%. That's sad. Really sad.

A critical mass of Republicans have truly lost their minds.

Except it’s not a national election, John. It’s 50 STATE elections. so it doesn’t matter that 90% of Californians would vote for him, or 75% of New Yorkers. Doesn’t change the # of electoral votes they can cast. If Trump gets 48% of the popular vote again, he’ll win again.

mark it down. You heard it here first.

[93henfan]

Ok another poll came out today that has any Democrat the pollsters asked about beating Trump head to head among respondents; though it does show that Shultz could screw things up for the Democrats in a three way.

Its an Emerson College poll. See http://emersonpolling.com/2019/02/16/ma ... extension/.



The bottom line is that nothing has significantly changed in that regard as Trump lost ground in approval ratings then gained some ground back. He is a weak candidate.

Saddest result of this poll, BTW, is that more Republicans picked Trump as their favorite President of the past 40 years than picked Reagan. 44% to 29%. That's sad. Really sad.

A critical mass of Republicans have truly lost their minds.

Except it’s not a national election, John. It’s 50 STATE elections. so it doesn’t matter that 90% of Californians would vote for him, or 75% of New Yorkers. Doesn’t change the # of electoral votes they can cast. If Trump gets 48% of the popular vote again, he’ll win again.

mark it down. You heard it here first.

Looking at 2016, only 14 states were really in play. Of those,

Trump should be very worried about these three:
MI (Trump +0.2%) 16 electoral votes
PA (Trump +0.8%) 20 electoral votes
WI (Trump +0.8%) 10 electoral votes

Those flipping alone, assuming everything else stayed the same as 2016, would make the electoral college 273-258 Dem

These states are potential concerns for Trump, especially FL. If these fall, it's becoming a landslide:
FL (Trump +2.2%) 29 electoral votes
AZ (Trump +3.5%) 11 electoral votes
NC (Trump +3.7%) 15 electoral votes
GA (Trump +5.1%) 16 electoral votes
OH (Trump +8.1%) 18 electoral votes

These states are potential concerns for Dems, though I don't really see CO or VA coming back from the abyss at this point:
NH (Clinton +0.4%)
MN (Clinton +1.5%)
NV (Clinton +2.4%)
ME at large (Clinton +3.0%)
CO (Clinton +4.9%)
VA (Clinton +5.3%)

The math just doesn't look good at all for Trump in 2020. He really needs a big terrorist attack on US soil in mid-2020, preferably by a muslin cell that enters via Mexico, or a good old-fashioned stare-down with some commies.

[AZGrizFan]

Well that’s a much better analysis than John’s head-to-head national voter preference.

[93henfan]

Well that’s a much better analysis than John’s head-to-head national voter preference.

Should we make an odds poll on these for 2020?

1. Terrorist attack on US soil by muslin cell entering through Mexico
2. US invasion of Venezuela
3. Russia invasion of pick one: Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Georgia, Azerbaijan...
4. Korean DMZ flare-up
5. Israel/Iran spitball throwing

[AZGrizFan]

Well that’s a much better analysis than John’s head-to-head national voter preference.

Should we make an odds poll on these for 2020?

1. Terrorist attack on US soil by muslin cell entering through Mexico
2. US invasion of Venezuela
3. Russia invasion of pick one: Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Georgia, Azerbaijan...
4. Korean DMZ flare-up
5. Israel/Iran spitball throwing

Hell, we just got India/Pakistan on the board....

[UNI88]

Well that’s a much better analysis than John’s head-to-head national voter preference.

Should we make an odds poll on these for 2020?

1. Terrorist attack on US soil by muslin cell entering through Mexico
2. US invasion of Venezuela
3. Russia invasion of pick one: Ukraine, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus, Georgia, Azerbaijan...
4. Korean DMZ flare-up
5. Israel/Iran spitball throwing

Belarus would be unnecessary (from a Russian perspective). Georgia and Azerbaijan wouldn't move the needle. Ukraine and the Baltics are the wildcards. Who knows how Trump will react (and what excuses Europe will use not to, paging Neville Chamberlain).

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