For the love of god, please don't nominate this asshat in 2024.In a bizarre exchange described by reporters for The New Yorker and The New York Times in an upcoming book Mr Trump is said to have asked his top aide, who himself was a four-star general in charge of US Southern Command, “why can’t you be like the German generals?”
A bewildered Mr Kelly reportedly responded, “Which generals?” to which Mr Trump supposedly shot back, “The German generals in World War II.”
His chief of staff then allegedly told the president, “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?”
But the president in response substituted his own version of history.
“No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” Mr Trump reportedly insisted to his aide.
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The GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump yet again. They've already hamstrung themselves in the Senate races this year in PA and possibly in Georgia. The GOP will win the House just based on how poorly the Democrats have run things in the past couple of years, but the Senate was certainly winnable before candidates reflecting Trump came out victors in the primaries. Same can happen in '24 for the Whitehouse - the Dems don't have a good candidate and will be running on a bad track record by then - but they'll win the White House again if the GOP goes down the same Trump path yet again. Maybe the Dems will do the GOP a favor and get Trump disqualified to run.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:13 am Trump told top aide he wanted ‘totally loyal’ generals like Hitler had
For the love of god, please don't nominate this asshat in 2024.In a bizarre exchange described by reporters for The New Yorker and The New York Times in an upcoming book Mr Trump is said to have asked his top aide, who himself was a four-star general in charge of US Southern Command, “why can’t you be like the German generals?”
A bewildered Mr Kelly reportedly responded, “Which generals?” to which Mr Trump supposedly shot back, “The German generals in World War II.”
His chief of staff then allegedly told the president, “You do know that they tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off?”
But the president in response substituted his own version of history.
“No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” Mr Trump reportedly insisted to his aide.
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With who?GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:59 amThe GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump yet again. They've already hamstrung themselves in the Senate races this year in PA and possibly in Georgia. The GOP will win the House just based on how poorly the Democrats have run things in the past couple of years, but the Senate was certainly winnable before candidates reflecting Trump came out victors in the primaries. Same can happen in '24 for the Whitehouse - the Dems don't have a good candidate and will be running on a bad track record by then - but they'll win the White House again if the GOP goes down the same Trump path yet again. Maybe the Dems will do the GOP a favor and get Trump disqualified to run.UNI88 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:13 am Trump told top aide he wanted ‘totally loyal’ generals like Hitler had
For the love of god, please don't nominate this asshat in 2024.
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Polls about an election no one has declared for, 2-3 years out from the election, are about as useful as a JSO prediction - pretty meaningless. Like I said, the GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump again. I know I have never and will never vote for that man, and I certainly won't do it with him at 78 years old when the next election comes along - he's not getting more intelligent with age. I may not even care who the Dems run (other than Hillary).BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:27 amWith who?GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 5:59 am
The GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump yet again. They've already hamstrung themselves in the Senate races this year in PA and possibly in Georgia. The GOP will win the House just based on how poorly the Democrats have run things in the past couple of years, but the Senate was certainly winnable before candidates reflecting Trump came out victors in the primaries. Same can happen in '24 for the Whitehouse - the Dems don't have a good candidate and will be running on a bad track record by then - but they'll win the White House again if the GOP goes down the same Trump path yet again. Maybe the Dems will do the GOP a favor and get Trump disqualified to run.
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Kind of like pre season polls, but people still talk about them.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:37 amPolls about an election no one has declared for, 2-3 years out from the election, are about as useful as a JSO prediction - pretty meaningless. Like I said, the GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump again. I know I have never and will never vote for that man, and I certainly won't do it with him at 78 years old when the next election comes along - he's not getting more intelligent with age. I may not even care who the Dems run (other than Hillary).BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:27 am
With who?
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I don't care who you'd vote for.
And being 78 at the time of the election didn't stop the donks from running Biden. If the donks run Biden or Harris, the top 2 donk candidates now according to the betting odds Current Vegas odds, Trump wins. Buttigeg is next, but he won't win the donk nomination. Pocahontas- not a chance, nor Hillary. Sure, there's other donks who would beat Trump- maybe Michelle Obama or one of the donk govs. We'll see who gets the nominations.
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You're underestimating how many people don't want trump to be POTUS again. He'll energize the MAGAt base but he'll also get a lot of moderate/independent voters to go to the polls just to vote for his opponent regardless of who that is. He's a cancer to the country.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:24 amKind of like pre season polls, but people still talk about them.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:37 am
Polls about an election no one has declared for, 2-3 years out from the election, are about as useful as a JSO prediction - pretty meaningless. Like I said, the GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump again. I know I have never and will never vote for that man, and I certainly won't do it with him at 78 years old when the next election comes along - he's not getting more intelligent with age. I may not even care who the Dems run (other than Hillary).
I don't care who you'd vote for.
And being 78 at the time of the election didn't stop the donks from running Biden. If the donks run Biden or Harris, the top 2 donk candidates now according to the betting odds Current Vegas odds, Trump wins. Buttigeg is next, but he won't win the donk nomination. Pocahontas- not a chance, nor Hillary. Sure, there's other donks who would beat Trump- maybe Michelle Obama or one of the donk govs. We'll see who gets the nominations.
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I'm not saying Trump will be the nominee (I called on here last week Desantis/Newsom). But I'm saying Trump could win if he's the nominee. We could argue this till the cows come home, but we'll see in 27 months (if he's the nominee)..UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:27 amYou're underestimating how many people don't want trump to be POTUS again. He'll energize the MAGAt base but he'll also get a lot of moderate/independent voters to go to the polls just to vote for his opponent regardless of who that is. He's a cancer to the country.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:24 am
Kind of like pre season polls, but people still talk about them.
I don't care who you'd vote for.
And being 78 at the time of the election didn't stop the donks from running Biden. If the donks run Biden or Harris, the top 2 donk candidates now according to the betting odds Current Vegas odds, Trump wins. Buttigeg is next, but he won't win the donk nomination. Pocahontas- not a chance, nor Hillary. Sure, there's other donks who would beat Trump- maybe Michelle Obama or one of the donk govs. We'll see who gets the nominations.
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Hell, I don’t want Trump to be the nominee, but that doesn’t excuse away what the left is doing. The Russian collusion hoax didn’t work. The two impeachment joke trials didn’t work. The J6 debacle “hearing” didn’t work. They’re fucking desperate and everyone knows it. They’re deathly afraid of losing their grip on power and what that’ll mean. These are the last dying acts of a desperate man.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:27 amYou're underestimating how many people don't want trump to be POTUS again. He'll energize the MAGAt base but he'll also get a lot of moderate/independent voters to go to the polls just to vote for his opponent regardless of who that is. He's a cancer to the country.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:24 am
Kind of like pre season polls, but people still talk about them.
I don't care who you'd vote for.
And being 78 at the time of the election didn't stop the donks from running Biden. If the donks run Biden or Harris, the top 2 donk candidates now according to the betting odds Current Vegas odds, Trump wins. Buttigeg is next, but he won't win the donk nomination. Pocahontas- not a chance, nor Hillary. Sure, there's other donks who would beat Trump- maybe Michelle Obama or one of the donk govs. We'll see who gets the nominations.
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I'll agree that the left has been given a lot of cover to do things that they never should've been doing. The interference in the 2016 election by the federal bureaucracy and the sitting administration was unprecedented, the soft attempt at a coup (which is what it was) throughout the Trump administration by the left culminating in the first impeachment was startling, and the purposeful drawing out for political purposes (i.e. elections) and partisanship driving the Jan 6th investigations have almost rendered that work irrelevant (which is a shame in and of itself because historically it's an event that we need non-partisan answers on). I'll wait to judge what the FBI raid on Mir-a-Lago is until we see what the details are (see my post before - this had better be more than just cleaning up an issue of if we have all the archive documents or not - there are easier ways to deal with disagreements like that other than raiding an ex-President's home). I don't like Trump the person even a little bit, but I also don't want to sell out our system of government just to keep him out of it either.AZGrizFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:19 amHell, I don’t want Trump to be the nominee, but that doesn’t excuse away what the left is doing. The Russian collusion hoax didn’t work. The two impeachment joke trials didn’t work. The J6 debacle “hearing” didn’t work. They’re fucking desperate and everyone knows it. They’re deathly afraid of losing their grip on power and what that’ll mean. These are the last dying acts of a desperate man.UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:27 am
You're underestimating how many people don't want trump to be POTUS again. He'll energize the MAGAt base but he'll also get a lot of moderate/independent voters to go to the polls just to vote for his opponent regardless of who that is. He's a cancer to the country.
With that said, the one thing I do think the left got right in this was the second impeachment - I can't think of a better reason to impeach and remove a President than his appalling behavior that led up to a mob (luckily a mob that was mostly unarmed - the disaster if they had been substantially armed could have been horrific) marching on a federal building and stopping the legitimate workings of government, as well as his dereliction of duty to get that lawlessness under control in a timely manner. He should've been impeached and removed for that, or his cabinet should've gone 25th amendment on him. But of course, the left leaning Congress at the time hurt their own case on this with the preceding 4 years of brazenly political and personal opposition that, again, in retrospect looks more and more like a soft, drawn out coup.
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It's scary but you're right, trump could win in 2024. But IMO other conk candidates like DeSantis would be much harder for the donk candidate to beat.BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:36 amI'm not saying Trump will be the nominee (I called on here last week Desantis/Newsom). But I'm saying Trump could win if he's the nominee. We could argue this till the cows come home, but we'll see in 27 months (if he's the nominee)..UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:27 am
You're underestimating how many people don't want trump to be POTUS again. He'll energize the MAGAt base but he'll also get a lot of moderate/independent voters to go to the polls just to vote for his opponent regardless of who that is. He's a cancer to the country.
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I agree other than the 'its scary"..
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Bill Barr is more of a Republican than trump. Change my mind.
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The guy who let everyone say that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation when he knew better? That Bill Barr?
He was in charge of Epstein as well.
Love his rehabilitation tour.
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Yep, that guy. Despite all that, he's still more of a Republican than trump.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 12:54 pmThe guy who let everyone say that Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation when he knew better? That Bill Barr?
He was in charge of Epstein as well.
Love his rehabilitation tour.

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lol. He's merely doing damage control for LAT. Life after Trump.
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Shhhhh, don't foul my line.

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I think Hillary may be one of the few qualified for the Special Master position - Obama too.GannonFan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:37 amPolls about an election no one has declared for, 2-3 years out from the election, are about as useful as a JSO prediction - pretty meaningless. Like I said, the GOP deserves what they get if they nominate Trump again. I know I have never and will never vote for that man, and I certainly won't do it with him at 78 years old when the next election comes along - he's not getting more intelligent with age. I may not even care who the Dems run (other than Hillary).BDKJMU wrote: ↑Tue Aug 09, 2022 7:27 am
With who?
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Trump openly embraces, amplifies QAnon conspiracy theories
Anyone who buys his "if I can help save the world from problems" BS is a sucker. He wants power, money and to feed his ego with the adoration of his MAGAts and he's willing to fvck up the country to get it.On Tuesday, using his Truth Social platform, the Republican former president reposted an image of himself wearing a Q lapel pin overlaid with the words “The Storm is Coming.” In QAnon lore, the “storm” refers to Trump’s final victory, when supposedly he will regain power and his opponents will be tried, and potentially executed, on live television.
Pressed on QAnon theories that Trump allegedly is saving the nation from a satanic cult of child sex traffickers, he claimed ignorance but asked, “Is that supposed to be a bad thing?”
“If I can help save the world from problems, I’m willing to do it,” Trump said.
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Sounds like every other politician.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:37 am Trump openly embraces, amplifies QAnon conspiracy theories
Anyone who buys his "if I can help save the world from problems" BS is a sucker. He wants power, money and to feed his ego with the adoration of his MAGAts and he's willing to fvck up the country to get it.On Tuesday, using his Truth Social platform, the Republican former president reposted an image of himself wearing a Q lapel pin overlaid with the words “The Storm is Coming.” In QAnon lore, the “storm” refers to Trump’s final victory, when supposedly he will regain power and his opponents will be tried, and potentially executed, on live television.
Pressed on QAnon theories that Trump allegedly is saving the nation from a satanic cult of child sex traffickers, he claimed ignorance but asked, “Is that supposed to be a bad thing?”
“If I can help save the world from problems, I’m willing to do it,” Trump said.
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trump is better at it than the others with the possible exception of Hillary. Those two are peas in a pod.Winterborn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:26 pmSounds like every other politician.UNI88 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:37 am Trump openly embraces, amplifies QAnon conspiracy theories
Anyone who buys his "if I can help save the world from problems" BS is a sucker. He wants power, money and to feed his ego with the adoration of his MAGAts and he's willing to fvck up the country to get it.
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I do not even want to debate it as I don't like the slimy feeling it gives me but he is much more obvious about it. The rest just hide it better.
I am not sure he is even capable, or his arrogance is so great, he doesn't draw the connections between what he is saying and their possible meanings. I am really trying not to defend the guy but I would rather have somebody that tells me whatever pops into his head than somebody that tells me what they think I want to hear.
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It's Melania's fault he endorsed Oz ...

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Wait, someone referred to Trump as "a grown man"? Really??

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Physically, trump is a grown man. Mentally and emotionally, not so much.
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