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Ibanez wrote:So...can we lock this thread or are we waiting for Jelly to return?
He might not come back. Wouldn’t be the 1st to 6.93 himself off here forever..
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CID1990 wrote:
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You guys have lost your ability to read words on a page
I make no implications
the report finds Trump not guilt of conspiracy the entire free wold is aware of that

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Nobody is talking about conspiracy
read what I wrote

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Since he's been cleared of conspiracy there is but one remaining hurdle
Two guesses what that is - and he likely can't be charged while he's president - certainly not by the DOJ
as presented by Mueller's report
OK

I didn’t see you referencing either issue specifically - which would lead someone not following closely to think you were implying “not not guilty” also applied to conspiracy
Dude, you called it 6 months ago...
Trump has to run and he has to win in 2020 because otherwise
Not - Not Guilty (will come into play)

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Ibanez wrote:So...can we lock this thread or are we waiting for Jelly to return?
Nah, JSO has jumped right into the flushing toilet in an attempt to either save Jelly or go spinning down with him. Misery loves company apparently. :coffee:
I don't know exactly what you're getting at but it's pretty obvious that the Trump and Russia thing is not over. There is no reason to "lock this thread." There are going to be all kinds of Trump and Russia things in the news for the foreseeable future.

Again: Mueller did not address the question of "collusion." He did not say there was no cooperation between anybody in the Trump campaign and Russians. In fact he documented a lot of interaction. And that's going to be in the news. The Democrats are going to hold hearings on it. It's going to continue.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Nah, JSO has jumped right into the flushing toilet in an attempt to either save Jelly or go spinning down with him. Misery loves company apparently. :coffee:
I don't know exactly what you're getting at but it's pretty obvious that the Trump and Russia thing is not over. There is no reason to "lock this thread." There are going to be all kinds of Trump and Russia things in the news for the foreseeable future.

Again: Mueller did not address the question of "collusion." He did not say there was no cooperation between anybody in the Trump campaign and Russians. In fact he documented a lot of interaction. And that's going to be in the news. The Democrats are going to hold hearings on it. It's going to continue.
You are right - the Dem controlled House is going to beat the drum on “collusion” to zero benefit

And the DoJ is going to look into questionable internal activities leading up to and after 2016 - to zero benefit

And the well established fact the Russia interfered in our elections, as they have done for many years, will go ignored. Just as it was by the previous administration

So basically, in the balance, we will drone on as if nothing happened, bickering over inappropriate behaviors all around. While Russia feels no pain


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CID1990 wrote:
JohnStOnge wrote:
I don't know exactly what you're getting at but it's pretty obvious that the Trump and Russia thing is not over. There is no reason to "lock this thread." There are going to be all kinds of Trump and Russia things in the news for the foreseeable future.

Again: Mueller did not address the question of "collusion." He did not say there was no cooperation between anybody in the Trump campaign and Russians. In fact he documented a lot of interaction. And that's going to be in the news. The Democrats are going to hold hearings on it. It's going to continue.
You are right - the Dem controlled House is going to beat the drum on “collusion” to zero benefit

And the DoJ is going to look into questionable internal activities leading up to and after 2016 - to zero benefit

And the well established fact the Russia interfered in our elections, as they have done for many years, will go ignored. Just as it was by the previous administration

So basically, in the balance, we will drone on as if nothing happened, bickering over inappropriate behaviors all around. While Russia feels no pain


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This is what I have been predicting from the start. Nothing really big happens to anyone. Of course it's not much of a prediction, just the way it goes for the political class in America.

Be interesting to see how WaPo, NYT, MSNBC and CNN start painting the Russian interference as legendary and if it wasn't for the heroic (patriotic) efforts of our DOJ and FBI, we'd all be speaking Russian by now.

This is why I agree with focusing on predicate. Don't have to battle all that revisionist history on "intentions".
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SeattleGriz wrote:
CID1990 wrote:
You are right - the Dem controlled House is going to beat the drum on “collusion” to zero benefit

And the DoJ is going to look into questionable internal activities leading up to and after 2016 - to zero benefit

And the well established fact the Russia interfered in our elections, as they have done for many years, will go ignored. Just as it was by the previous administration

So basically, in the balance, we will drone on as if nothing happened, bickering over inappropriate behaviors all around. While Russia feels no pain


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This is what I have been predicting from the start. Nothing really big happens to anyone. Of course it's not much of a prediction, just the way it goes for the political class in America.

Be interesting to see how WaPo, NYT, MSNBC and CNN start painting the Russian interference as legendary and if it wasn't for the heroic (patriotic) efforts of our DOJ and FBI, we'd all be speaking Russian by now.

This is why I agree with focusing on predicate. Don't have to battle all that revisionist history on "intentions".
This is what the aftermath of a Red Scare looks like. We just get to live through one rather than just reading about it.
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JohnStOnge wrote:
GannonFan wrote:
Nah, JSO has jumped right into the flushing toilet in an attempt to either save Jelly or go spinning down with him. Misery loves company apparently. :coffee:
I don't know exactly what you're getting at but it's pretty obvious that the Trump and Russia thing is not over. There is no reason to "lock this thread." There are going to be all kinds of Trump and Russia things in the news for the foreseeable future.

Again: Mueller did not address the question of "collusion." He did not say there was no cooperation between anybody in the Trump campaign and Russians. In fact he documented a lot of interaction. And that's going to be in the news. The Democrats are going to hold hearings on it. It's going to continue.
Hey look!

The Nation weighs in on Russiamuellerganza:

https://www.thenation.com/article/russi ... collusion/

Not exactly National Review...

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Bump just in case jelly is still checking up on this place...


...also here is DBJ's meltdown thread over the Barr testimony on the Mueller report.
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SDHornet wrote:Bump just in case jelly is still checking up on this place...


...also here is DBJ's meltdown thread over the Barr testimony on the Mueller report.
You just KNOW he’s been looking

I’m about to just start posting blatantly incorrect sh1t just to make him go into the shivers
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CID1990 wrote:
SDHornet wrote:Bump just in case jelly is still checking up on this place...


...also here is DBJ's meltdown thread over the Barr testimony on the Mueller report.
You just KNOW he’s been looking

I’m about to just start posting blatantly incorrect sh1t just to make him go into the shivers
Oh no doubt, it probably brings him to tears every time he takes a peek. 8-)
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So basically the narrative that Papadopoulus was the reason for the FISA warrant is falling apart...


...where is jelleybelly (or Trip since he was pimping the Papadop narrative as well) to explain why this is is not a big deal.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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SDHornet wrote: So basically the narrative that Papadopoulus was the reason for the FISA warrant is falling apart...


...where is jelleybelly (or Trip since he was pimping the Papadop narrative as well) to explain why this is is not a big deal.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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He supposedly was instructed to lay low until after the investigation. Much like how Veselnitskya is now in trouble with America and not allowed back. Afraid she might say she was working for Fusion GPS.
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Going after Wray for sitting around with his thumb up his butt.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/0 ... tate-gang/

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WASHINGTON — Attorney General William Barr has appointed a U.S. attorney to examine the origins of the Russia investigation and determine if intelligence collection involving the Trump campaign was “lawful and appropriate,” a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press on Monday.

Barr appointed John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, to conduct the inquiry, the person said. The person could not discuss the matter publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... ns-1319878

Some sphincters likely tightening up in the beltway. 8-)

Paging jellybelly... :rofl:
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SDHornet wrote:
WASHINGTON — Attorney General William Barr has appointed a U.S. attorney to examine the origins of the Russia investigation and determine if intelligence collection involving the Trump campaign was “lawful and appropriate,” a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press on Monday.

Barr appointed John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, to conduct the inquiry, the person said. The person could not discuss the matter publicly and spoke to the AP on condition of anonymity.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/ ... ns-1319878

Some sphincters likely tightening up in the beltway. 8-)

Paging jellybelly... :rofl:
The Dems will holler and scream about Barr doing this... but let's see if their judgment is REALLY bad - if they go after Durham. The guy is pretty much unimpeachable and has done yeoman work benefitting both sides of the aisle

As the collusion narrative was shown to be scurrilous it now falls to the DoJ to make examples of those who would open investigations into political campaigns at the behest of those campaigns' opponents

Here's a prediction (much like the one I made about using common sense to conclude that there was no Russia-Trump conspiracy):

Barr already knows the answers ... which is why he made the what would seem the odd move of appointing special counsel before the OIG report lands.
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As the collusion narrative was shown to be scurrilous it now falls to the DoJ to make examples of those who would open investigations into political campaigns at the behest of those campaigns' opponents
And that will be the legacy from all of this, Red Scare 2016 aside. I don't like Trump even a little bit, but it's beyond ironic (actually criminal) that the side that went on and on about Trump's win would mean the end of the Republic weren't referring to Trump himself, but to what they were doing against Trump in the election and what they tried to do after he won the election. You just can't brush aside laws and integrity simply because you don't like who got elected. Sure, that kind of stuff happens everyday, but it rarely happens in elections for President.
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:When you go after the king you better not miss..............
Trump couldn't organize a two car parade without indicting himself

:lol:

I don't see any thing coming of this other than more Fox News fodder and conjecture
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Dont talk about Americas President that way, show some respect :tothehand:
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Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:When you go after the king you better not miss..............
Trump couldn't organize a two car parade without indicting himself

:lol:

I don't see any thing coming of this other than more Fox News fodder and conjecture
Get your popcorn ready, as you are in for some surprises.


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Chizzang wrote:
ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:When you go after the king you better not miss..............
Trump couldn't organize a two car parade without indicting himself

:lol:

I don't see any thing coming of this other than more Fox News fodder and conjecture
It won’t be the slam dunk the Trumpies are hoping for (Clinton or O’s NSA in the dock) but there will be an additional early retirement or two from the FBI

DNI and Gina Haspel are working with Barr as we speak - and that is a big deal ... especially when you consider the love between Langley and FBI

This might be more interesting than the Muellerganza


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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Dont talk about Americas President that way, show some respect :tothehand:
* America's
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kalm wrote:
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ALPHAGRIZ1 wrote:Dont talk about Americas President that way, show some respect :tothehand:
Oh come off it. You don't give a damn about respecting the President.
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