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Work. Just got done with a big event last week. Ukraine still can't get past where they have been the last two weeks. Which is sending under prepared troops into a slaughter zone.houndawg wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:31 amSG!SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:40 pm
Where exactly has Ukraine busted into Russian territory and gained land?
You've been duped and are afraid to admit it. You'll switch jerseys later.![]()
What up bro, where ya been? Usually you're here daily with an update on the Russian's latest routing of Ukraine's military....did something change or something..? We count on you for the inside skinny of the situation![]()
Outside of that, the "coup" that lasted all of eight hours didn't seem to do much other than entrench Putin further. Now the FSB has the military personnel who wanted to revolt.
Klam is spot on in regards to the nuke plant/dam. Ukraine keeps saying Russia is going to blow it up, although Russia has been protecting it from Ukraine. Russia blowing it up makes about as much sense as blowing up Nordstream, but the suckers for the narrative will buy into that as well.
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Eez vork of moose and squirrel, Comrade.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:11 pmWork. Just got done with a big event last week. Ukraine still can't get past where they have been the last two weeks. Which is sending under prepared troops into a slaughter zone.
Outside of that, the "coup" that lasted all of eight hours didn't seem to do much other than entrench Putin further. Now the FSB has the military personnel who wanted to revolt.
Klam is spot on in regards to the nuke plant/dam. Ukraine keeps saying Russia is going to blow it up, although Russia has been protecting it from Ukraine. Russia blowing it up makes about as much sense as blowing up Nordstream, but the suckers for the narrative will buy into that as well.
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I bet many a Ukrainian mother had wished the US and UK had not scuttled talks over a year ago. Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/form ... -rcna92610
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/form ... -rcna92610
A group of former senior U.S. national security officials has held secret talks with prominent Russians believed to be close to the Kremlin — and, in at least one case, with the country’s top diplomat — with the aim of laying the groundwork for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, half a dozen people briefed on the discussions said.
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Doubtful - which isn't bad for you - but I bet vastly more of them feel like trhe grandmother that told the Russian kids posing as soldiders: "Carry seeds in your pockets so flowers will grow where you die."SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:59 pm I bet many a Ukrainian mother had wished the US and UK had not scuttled talks over a year ago. Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/form ... -rcna92610
A group of former senior U.S. national security officials has held secret talks with prominent Russians believed to be close to the Kremlin — and, in at least one case, with the country’s top diplomat — with the aim of laying the groundwork for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, half a dozen people briefed on the discussions said.

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I bet they wish Russia hadn’t illegally invaded too.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:59 pm I bet many a Ukrainian mother had wished the US and UK had not scuttled talks over a year ago. Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/form ... -rcna92610
A group of former senior U.S. national security officials has held secret talks with prominent Russians believed to be close to the Kremlin — and, in at least one case, with the country’s top diplomat — with the aim of laying the groundwork for negotiations to end the war in Ukraine, half a dozen people briefed on the discussions said.
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You mean Russia intervened in the ongoing civil war between Ukraine and the Donbass. Let's not forget Merkel admitted the Minsk agreement was never meant to be followed, but to buy time to build up troops.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:14 amI bet they wish Russia hadn’t illegally invaded too.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 8:59 pm I bet many a Ukrainian mother had wished the US and UK had not scuttled talks over a year ago. Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/form ... -rcna92610
I for some reason don't remember you objecting to Ukraine shelling innocent women and children during their civil war, nor the treatment of the Roma.
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Brau, how do we know those diplomats are any more trustworthy than 51 intelligence officials?SeattleGriz wrote:Bro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm US to give Ukraine cluster munition to Ukraine. Must be out of regular ammo to give and of course would love to make any land lost uninhabitable.
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What I like about you Seagriz is you don’t call it quits at just alt right US propaganda.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:29 pmYou mean Russia intervened in the ongoing civil war between Ukraine and the Donbass. Let's not forget Merkel admitted the Minsk agreement was never meant to be followed, but to buy time to build up troops.
I for some reason don't remember you objecting to Ukraine shelling innocent women and children during their civil war, nor the treatment of the Roma.

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US to give Ukraine cluster munition to Ukraine. Must be out of regular ammo to give and of course would love to make any land lost uninhabitable.
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Bro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:10 pmWhat I like about you Seagriz is you don’t call it quits at just alt right US propaganda.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:29 pm
You mean Russia intervened in the ongoing civil war between Ukraine and the Donbass. Let's not forget Merkel admitted the Minsk agreement was never meant to be followed, but to buy time to build up troops.
I for some reason don't remember you objecting to Ukraine shelling innocent women and children during their civil war, nor the treatment of the Roma.
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Yes. I’m sure there is a long list.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pmBro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.
Did you mean to imply establishment media that is a big part of the military industrial complex? Because I can think of a large number of the “western” media who have issues with war in general and especially the killing of innocents who don’t agree with your take…………at all.
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Yes, establishment media, especially British.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:39 pmYes. I’m sure there is a long list.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pm
Bro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.
Did you mean to imply establishment media that is a big part of the military industrial complex? Because I can think of a large number of the “western” media who have issues with war in general and especially the killing of innocents who don’t agree with your take…………at all.
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I like the Brits. Which outlets specifically?SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:40 pmYes, establishment media, especially British.kalm wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:39 pm
Yes. I’m sure there is a long list.
Did you mean to imply establishment media that is a big part of the military industrial complex? Because I can think of a large number of the “western” media who have issues with war in general and especially the killing of innocents who don’t agree with your take…………at all.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pmBro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.

Its hilarious on its own, but your masterful placement of it so close to the post where you assert your anti-establishmentness........ I feel priviliged to watch you taking 6.93 out a dozen more decimal places.... you're in the zone, bro, don't stop now...

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Let me rephrase that. There's a long list of diplomats who've guided my thoughts on Ukraine. When I first started out, I simply said I was only going to believe 10% of what I heard from the MSM due to the lies and gaslighting of COVID.houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:23 amSeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:19 pm
Bro. There's a long list of diplomats saying what I've said. It's one of the reasons I believe them to be true, in addition to W. media being wholly captured.![]()
Its hilarious on its own, but your masterful placement of it so close to the post where you assert your anti-establishmentness........ I feel priviliged to watch you taking 6.93 out a dozen more decimal places.... you're in the zone, bro, don't stop now...![]()
I then went out and started investigating and found many contradicting facts and history of the situation. Of course there's always going to be three sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth. I still go with bucking the MSM narrative.
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SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:44 amLet me rephrase that. There's a long list of diplomats who've guided my thoughts on Ukraine. When I first started out, I simply said I was only going to believe 10% of what I heard from the MSM due to the lies and gaslighting of COVID.
I then went out and started investigating and found many contradicting facts and history of the situation. Of course there's always going to be three sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth. I still go with bucking the MSM narrative.

I found Marie Yovanovitch's testimony quite compelling. Fiona Hill's too, although I don't think she was a diplomat technically, she was speaking first hand too.

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FYPSeattleGriz wrote:Let me rephrase that. There's a long list of diplomats who're saying what I want to hear/read on Ukraine. When I first started out, I simply said I was only going to believe 10% of what I heard from the MSM due to the lies and gaslighting of COVID.
I then went out and started investigating and found many contradicting facts and history of the situation. Of course there's always going to be three sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth. I still go with bucking the MSM narrative.
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The best part is that all the relevant testimony is first-hand from Trump's own Republican appointees mouths straight to the publics ears.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:44 amLet me rephrase that. There's a long list of diplomats who've guided my thoughts on Ukraine. When I first started out, I simply said I was only going to believe 10% of what I heard from the MSM due to the lies and gaslighting of COVID.
I then went out and started investigating and found many contradicting facts and history of the situation. Of course there's always going to be three sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth. I still go with bucking the MSM narrative.

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Wrong thread bro. Trump's people haven't said anything about Ukraine.houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:59 amThe best part is that all the relevant testimony is first-hand from Trump's own Republican appointees mouths straight to the publics ears.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:44 am
Let me rephrase that. There's a long list of diplomats who've guided my thoughts on Ukraine. When I first started out, I simply said I was only going to believe 10% of what I heard from the MSM due to the lies and gaslighting of COVID.
I then went out and started investigating and found many contradicting facts and history of the situation. Of course there's always going to be three sides to every story; my side, your side and the truth. I still go with bucking the MSM narrative.![]()
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It is hard to keep up with the various scandals and indictments.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:28 amWrong thread bro. Trump's people haven't said anything about Ukraine.

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houndawg wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:58 amIt is hard to keep up with the various scandals and indictments.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:28 am
Wrong thread bro. Trump's people haven't said anything about Ukraine.![]()

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Bingo, called it.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm US to give Ukraine cluster munition to Ukraine. Must be out of regular ammo to give and of course would love to make any land lost uninhabitable.
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You and Pulitzer Prize winning military correspondent Cheong skip right past the ethical issues with cluster munitions and go right into “we’re running out of bombs!”SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Sun Jul 09, 2023 7:18 amBingo, called it.SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 6:17 pm US to give Ukraine cluster munition to Ukraine. Must be out of regular ammo to give and of course would love to make any land lost uninhabitable.
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…on a $900 million annual defense budget….
