Coronavirus COVID-19

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On the HVAC end, ASHRAE just posted a guideline to consider UV-C lights with all new commercial duct systems.

They're looking into higher filter ratings too, but there's a whole host of issues there that would have to be considered (bigger pressure drops, larger energy use, shorter equipment lifespan, etc.).

[AZGrizFan]

Agreed...there’s a growing tide of lemming journalists who are starting to join, as Alex Berenson calls it, “team reality”.

Berenson has been throwing straight fire on Twitter lately. It's been epic.

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Good luck, man! I am now 16 days past Penn Medicine notifying me that a member of my radiation set-up team was positive for COVID, so I dodged that bullet (I think).

The member of my 9-person team at work who contracted COVID finally got off a ventilator after four weeks in ICU. She is moving her head and talking a little. It's freaking frightening that that is all the progress she has made. She is a rather large black woman who is probably in her 50s if I had to guess.

Glad she's getting better. I mean as crazy to think I may have had it, I think I'd want a positive result so I'm not too worried about catching it again (at least in the short-term). Plus if there's any way my antibodies could help research, I'm in.

We'll see though. Could've been anything else, or a different virus.

edit: Say it's positive, really shows the importance of social distancing/staying home right now.

Tested negative.

Also on a side note, just read about the increase of driving school applications all over the world (Japan, India, Europe, US). Bad for the environment, but surveys showing that more people are considering private transportation instead of public.

Could be great for car manufacturers once they get through this though. Might be time to invest.

[AZGrizFan]

Glad she's getting better. I mean as crazy to think I may have had it, I think I'd want a positive result so I'm not too worried about catching it again (at least in the short-term). Plus if there's any way my antibodies could help research, I'm in.

We'll see though. Could've been anything else, or a different virus.

edit: Say it's positive, really shows the importance of social distancing/staying home right now.

Tested negative.

Also on a side note, just read about the increase of driving school applications all over the world (Japan, India, Europe, US). Bad for the environment, but surveys showing that more people are considering private transportation instead of public.

Could be great for car manufacturers once they get through this though. Might be time to invest.

The one beautiful thing about auto sales demand...when it drops like it has in March/April, it gets pent up and WILL rebound strongly....if any manufacturer stocks are down 20-30%, now would be a great time to pick them up cheap and ride the wave upward in July/August when the sales come back.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ns/610261/

When the virus came here, it found a country with serious underlying conditions, and it exploited them ruthlessly. Chronic ills—a corrupt political class, a sclerotic bureaucracy, a heartless economy, a divided and distracted public—had gone untreated for years. We had learned to live, uncomfortably, with the symptoms. It took the scale and intimacy of a pandemic to expose their severity—to shock Americans with the recognition that we are in the high-risk category.

The crisis demanded a response that was swift, rational, and collective. The United States reacted instead like Pakistan or Belarus—like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering. The administration squandered two irretrievable months to prepare. From the president came willful blindness, scapegoating, boasts, and lies. From his mouthpieces, conspiracy theories and miracle cures. A few senators and corporate executives acted quickly—not to prevent the coming disaster, but to profit from it. When a government doctor tried to warn the public of the danger, the White House took the mic and politicized the message.

Every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state. With no national plan—no coherent instructions at all—families, schools, and offices were left to decide on their own whether to shut down and take shelter. When test kits, masks, gowns, and ventilators were found to be in desperately short supply, governors pleaded for them from the White House, which stalled, then called on private enterprise, which couldn’t deliver. States and cities were forced into bidding wars that left them prey to price gouging and corporate profiteering. Civilians took out their sewing machines to try to keep ill-equipped hospital workers healthy and their patients alive. Russia, Taiwan, and the United Nations sent humanitarian aid to the world’s richest power—a beggar nation in utter chaos.

[89Hen]

Is it a requirement that you must use phrases like "sclerotic bureaucracy" to get published in The Atlantic?

[AZGrizFan]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ns/610261/

When the virus came here, it found a country with serious underlying conditions, and it exploited them ruthlessly. Chronic ills—a corrupt political class, a sclerotic bureaucracy, a heartless economy, a divided and distracted public—had gone untreated for years. We had learned to live, uncomfortably, with the symptoms. It took the scale and intimacy of a pandemic to expose their severity—to shock Americans with the recognition that we are in the high-risk category.

The crisis demanded a response that was swift, rational, and collective. The United States reacted instead like Pakistan or Belarus—like a country with shoddy infrastructure and a dysfunctional government whose leaders were too corrupt or stupid to head off mass suffering. The administration squandered two irretrievable months to prepare. From the president came willful blindness, scapegoating, boasts, and lies. From his mouthpieces, conspiracy theories and miracle cures. A few senators and corporate executives acted quickly—not to prevent the coming disaster, but to profit from it. When a government doctor tried to warn the public of the danger, the White House took the mic and politicized the message.

Every morning in the endless month of March, Americans woke up to find themselves citizens of a failed state. With no national plan—no coherent instructions at all—families, schools, and offices were left to decide on their own whether to shut down and take shelter. When test kits, masks, gowns, and ventilators were found to be in desperately short supply, governors pleaded for them from the White House, which stalled, then called on private enterprise, which couldn’t deliver. States and cities were forced into bidding wars that left them prey to price gouging and corporate profiteering. Civilians took out their sewing machines to try to keep ill-equipped hospital workers healthy and their patients alive. Russia, Taiwan, and the United Nations sent humanitarian aid to the world’s richest power—a beggar nation in utter chaos.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we get when we (collectively) have grown to need and wait for the government to tell us what to do. And here's a newsflash: it wouldn't matter who's in office. It would STILL be a politicized, scapegoated clusterfuck of epic proportions.

Until we (again, collectively) wake up and realize that government is NOT the answer, not the solution, and not the cure we're inevitably fucked.

[kalm]

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... ns/610261/

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we get when we (collectively) have grown to need and wait for the government to tell us what to do. And here's a newsflash: it wouldn't matter who's in office. It would STILL be a politicized, scapegoated clusterfuck of epic proportions.

Until we (again, collectively) wake up and realize that government is NOT the answer, not the solution, and not the cure we're inevitably fucked.

I wish we could just free market our way out of this shit!

Why can’t we?

[89Hen]

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what we get when we (collectively) have grown to need and wait for the government to tell us what to do. And here's a newsflash: it wouldn't matter who's in office. It would STILL be a politicized, scapegoated clusterfuck of epic proportions.

Until we (again, collectively) wake up and realize that government is NOT the answer, not the solution, and not the cure we're inevitably fucked.

I wish we could just free market our way out of this shit!

Why can’t we?

We can, but the results wouldn't be to your liking.

[AZGrizFan]

From the CDC Website for the period 2/1-4/25:

Covid Deaths:

Under 1 year: 4 of 3725 deaths
1-5 years: 2 of 723
5-14 years: 3 of 1072
15-24 years: 42 of 6375
25-34 years: 278 of 13,532
35-44 years: 707 of 19,539
45-54 years: 1,929 of 37,899
55-64 years: 4,688 of 91,146
65-74 years: 8,001 141,556
75-84 years: 10,196 of 177,917
85 years and over: 11,458 of 225,944

This is what we're freaking out about as a country/world.

[BDKJMU]

Glad she's getting better. I mean as crazy to think I may have had it, I think I'd want a positive result so I'm not too worried about catching it again (at least in the short-term). Plus if there's any way my antibodies could help research, I'm in.

We'll see though. Could've been anything else, or a different virus.

edit: Say it's positive, really shows the importance of social distancing/staying home right now.

Tested negative.

Also on a side note, just read about the increase of driving school applications all over the world (Japan, India, Europe, US). Bad for the environment, but surveys showing that more people are considering private transportation instead of public.

Could be great for car manufacturers once they get through this though. Might be time to invest.

On the other hand long term less driving with more people working from home, more online instead of on campus learning, more people shopping online (including grocery) versus going out.

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Tested negative.

Also on a side note, just read about the increase of driving school applications all over the world (Japan, India, Europe, US). Bad for the environment, but surveys showing that more people are considering private transportation instead of public.

Could be great for car manufacturers once they get through this though. Might be time to invest.

On the other hand long term less driving with more people working from home, more online instead of on campus learning, more people shopping online (including grocery) versus going out.

Definitely. If there's one silver lining to the pandemic, it's that a lot of (potential) environmental positives are at play here.

[BDKJMU]

On the other hand long term less driving with more people working from home, more online instead of on campus learning, more people shopping online (including grocery) versus going out.

Definitely. If there's one silver lining to the pandemic, it's that a lot of (potential) environmental positives are at play here.

Lol, we might agree on something here..

You better watch out though, this whole thing has driven, and will continue to drive, people way from dense urban areas, more into the exurbs, smaller cities and towns, and rural areas, which flies in the face of urban environmentalism (that more people living in dense urban areas is better than more people spread out).

[89Hen]

Definitely. If there's one silver lining to the pandemic, it's that a lot of (potential) environmental positives are at play here.

Lol, we might agree on something here..

You better watch out though, this whole thing has driven, and will continue to drive, people way from dense urban areas, more into the exurbs, smaller cities and towns, and rural areas, which flies in the face of urban environmentalism..

I'm seeing it. Have quite a few folks looking to move to the burbs. Will kill my asshole county council members who want everyone to live in high rises near a metro station. Fuck all of them.

[kalm]

I wish we could just free market our way out of this shit!

Why can’t we?

We can, but the results wouldn't be to your liking.

Of yours.

[Ivytalk]

We can, but the results wouldn't be to your liking.

Of yours.

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[Gil Dobie]

Glad she's getting better. I mean as crazy to think I may have had it, I think I'd want a positive result so I'm not too worried about catching it again (at least in the short-term). Plus if there's any way my antibodies could help research, I'm in.

We'll see though. Could've been anything else, or a different virus.

edit: Say it's positive, really shows the importance of social distancing/staying home right now.

Tested negative.

Also on a side note, just read about the increase of driving school applications all over the world (Japan, India, Europe, US). Bad for the environment, but surveys showing that more people are considering private transportation instead of public.

Could be great for car manufacturers once they get through this though. Might be time to invest.

If people continue to work from home, it will be good for the environment. Hope some of these corporate big wigs get the message.

[89Hen]

Of yours.

*Up

[Gil Dobie]

From the CDC Website for the period 2/1-4/25:

Covid Deaths:

Under 1 year: 4 of 3725 deaths
1-5 years: 2 of 723
5-14 years: 3 of 1072
15-24 years: 42 of 6375
25-34 years: 278 of 13,532
35-44 years: 707 of 19,539
45-54 years: 1,929 of 37,899
55-64 years: 4,688 of 91,146
65-74 years: 8,001 141,556
75-84 years: 10,196 of 177,917
85 years and over: 11,458 of 225,944

This is what we're freaking out about as a country/world.

Do you think these numbers would have been higher without stay the fuck home?

[89Hen]

From the CDC Website for the period 2/1-4/25:

Covid Deaths:



This is what we're freaking out about as a country/world.

Do you think these numbers would have been higher without stay the fuck home?

Double them. Does it make a difference in the argument?

[JohnStOnge]

From the CDC Website for the period 2/1-4/25:

Covid Deaths:

Under 1 year: 4 of 3725 deaths
1-5 years: 2 of 723
5-14 years: 3 of 1072
15-24 years: 42 of 6375
25-34 years: 278 of 13,532
35-44 years: 707 of 19,539
45-54 years: 1,929 of 37,899
55-64 years: 4,688 of 91,146
65-74 years: 8,001 141,556
75-84 years: 10,196 of 177,917
85 years and over: 11,458 of 225,944

This is what we're freaking out about as a country/world.

Dude, we live in a country where people are thrown into jail for having a 0.08 blood alcohol level because of statistics like this:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/risky-driving/drunk-driving

drunk-driving crashes claim more than 10,000 lives per year

We are now approaching 70,000 deaths from the COVID-19 thing.

[UNI88]

I need a physical and bloodwork. My atorvastatin ran out a while ago but I haven't picked a new doctor yet? If I die, will I count as a COVID-19 death or as a result of the preventative measures?

Dude, you can't fuck around with that. My layman understanding is that allowing your statin to lapse is worse than never taking it.

I have a doctor's appointment for tomorrow. Thank for kicking me in the butt to get it done!

[JohnStOnge]

BTW this thing of bringing up Kavanaugh is an effort to divert attention from who Biden is running against. When it comes to allegations by women of sexual misconduct there is no comparison. People on the Republican side are eventually going to have to deal with the fact that, if they are going to go after Biden on this, their candidate is Trump.

[Ivytalk]

BTW this thing of bringing up Kavanaugh is an effort to divert attention from who Biden is running against. When it comes to allegations by women of sexual misconduct there is no comparison. People on the Republican side are eventually going to have to deal with the fact that, if they are going to go after Biden on this, their candidate is Trump.

Wrong thread, JSOCD.

Mods: Please move this drivel to the Democrat nomination process thread.

[89Hen]

Dude, you can't fuck around with that. My layman understanding is that allowing your statin to lapse is worse than never taking it.

I have a doctor's appointment for tomorrow. Thank for kicking me in the butt to get it done!