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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:24 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:32 am Undeniable.

Tell that to the people in the Donbass that have been illegally attacked by paramilitary since 2014.
You do realize that Putin at the onset that UKR want a country and belonged to Russia, right?
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kalm wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:31 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 7:24 pm

Tell that to the people in the Donbass that have been illegally attacked by paramilitary since 2014.
You do realize that Putin at the onset that UKR want a country and belonged to Russia, right?
What does that have to do with Ukraine using far right paramilitary to terrorize its own citizens with artillery, rape, torture and massacres in E Ukraine?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:45 pm
kalm wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:31 pm

You do realize that Putin at the onset that UKR want a country and belonged to Russia, right?
What does that have to do with Ukraine using far right paramilitary to terrorize its own citizens with artillery, rape, torture and massacres in E Ukraine?
Go home and get some sleep, its getting hard to watch and kalm's foot needs the rest.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:26 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:45 pm

What does that have to do with Ukraine using far right paramilitary to terrorize its own citizens with artillery, rape, torture and massacres in E Ukraine?
Go home and get some sleep, its getting hard to watch and kalm's foot needs the rest.
That's why he's got your mom massaging his corns right now.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:02 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:26 am

Go home and get some sleep, its getting hard to watch and kalm's foot needs the rest.
That's why he's got your mom massaging his corns right now.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 6:08 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:02 pm

That's why he's got your mom massaging his corns right now.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:02 pm
houndawg wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:26 am

Go home and get some sleep, its getting hard to watch and kalm's foot needs the rest.
That's why he's got your mom massaging his corns right now.
....this is beginning to resemble Ali rope-a-doping Foreman in Zaire: "Is that all you got George"? :lmao:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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300,000 dead Ukrainians because the neocons wanted a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine army on the verge of collapse.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:14 am 300,000 dead Ukrainians because the neocons wanted a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine army on the verge of collapse.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:38 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:14 am 300,000 dead Ukrainians because the neocons wanted a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine army on the verge of collapse.
Can't blame Putin for being encouraged by the pitiful bleating of milquetoasts like SG and BD urging us to turn the other cheek and achieve Peace in Our Time.... :ohno:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:38 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:14 am 300,000 dead Ukrainians because the neocons wanted a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine army on the verge of collapse.
Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:14 am 300,000 dead Ukrainians because the neocons wanted a battering ram against Russia. Ukraine army on the verge of collapse.
Killing civilians is all they have left. When it gets cold the Russians will be sneaking out at night to surrender. Come spring the freshly equipped Ukraine Air Force will begin the shooting-fish-in-a-barrel phase. :coffee:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:38 am

Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
Your reflexive defense of Putin at every mention of his name. :roll:

Forget him son, he's a dead man walking. You'd be better off to start sucking up to his likely successor...
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:38 am

Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
Darth Putin is Czar for Life For All Russians, a master strategist. Influencer, Thought Leader, Content Creator, and now author. Surprised you don’t know him.

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kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:09 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 am

Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
Darth Putin is Czar for Life For All Russians, a master strategist. Influencer, Thought Leader, Content Creator, and now author. Surprised you don’t know him.

I did not know! :lol: My bad.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 am
kalm wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:38 am

Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
the way those clever neocons tricked Putin into mobilizing a quarter million troops and invading Ukraine...
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:32 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 7:54 am

Regardless of whoever Darth Putin is, the fact remains the neocons have pushed this war for years, even going so far as to fund paramilitary nationalists on the E Ukrainian border attacking Ukrainian citizens.
the way those clever neocons tricked Putin into mobilizing a quarter million troops and invading Ukraine...
Well, when the Ukrainian paramilitary increased the shelling of the Donbass on the 16th, in preparation for an assault, it required their fellow Ukrainians to ask Russia for protection from them, which came on the 24th.
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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:48 am
houndawg wrote: Sat Aug 12, 2023 8:32 am

the way those clever neocons tricked Putin into mobilizing a quarter million troops and invading Ukraine...
Well, when the Ukrainian paramilitary increased the shelling of the Donbass on the 16th, in preparation for an assault, it required their fellow Ukrainians to ask Russia for protection from them, which came on the 24th.
I guess the Russian's underestimated the difficulty of installing a puppet regime
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Gonna have to war spend their way out off this?


But the sliding rouble could trigger memories in Moscow of the battering the currency took during the 1998 Russian financial crisis and has already led to rare public criticism of Russia’s central bank.

The influential TV host Vladimir Solovyov said last week: “The bloody central bank isn’t even explaining why the hell the rouble exchange rate has jumped so high that they’re laughing at us abroad, at our rouble being one of the three weakest currencies.


“What is happening in this country!? How did this exchange rate come about? Eventually, this will lead to a rise in consumer prices, and it will coincide with the election campaign,” Solovyov added, referring to the Russian presidential election scheduled for March 2024.

The Kremlin has boasted about Russia’s economic outlook while the central bank has predicted that the economy will grow by up to 2.5% this year, despite crippling western sanctions.

Despite the weakening rouble, Russia’s statistics agency, Rosstat, announced last week that the economy grew year on year by 4.9% in the second quarter of 2023, the first increase in 12 months.

Experts said much of the economic recovery was artificially driven by government spending on the war, raising the prospect of an economic slowdown if the conflict was halted.
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Biden asks for another $24 billion for Ukraine.

Guess he doesn't care about Maui that much.
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:30 pm Biden asks for another $24 billion for Ukraine.

Guess he doesn't care about Maui that much.

False dichotomy. :coffee:
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Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:30 pm Biden asks for another $24 billion for Ukraine.

Guess he doesn't care about Maui that much.
Maui didn't give him and his son $10 million to fire someone.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:30 pm Biden asks for another $24 billion for Ukraine.

Guess he doesn't care about Maui that much.
Maui didn't give him and his son $10 million to fire someone.

Thre BDS is strong in this one, Obi-wan....
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Winterborn wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:30 pm Biden asks for another $24 billion for Ukraine.

Guess he doesn't care about Maui that much.
Maui didn't give him and his son $10 million to fire someone.
The feds aren’t sending relief $’s to Maui?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:19 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:44 pm

Maui didn't give him and his son $10 million to fire someone.
The feds aren’t sending relief $’s to Maui?
Oh sure they are, but the ROI for the people of Maui is much less that the ROI for Burisma. Biden voter.
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