Coronavirus COVID-19

[kalm]

The difference between 89’s statement and mine is “only” vs. “may”.

So you're saying that because your statement isn't as definitive that it isn't "utterly useless?"

Both were statements of opinion.

Yes. There is zero evidence scientific or otherwise that the economy is only impacted by shutting down.

[89Hen]

So you're saying that because your statement isn't as definitive that it isn't "utterly useless?"

Both were statements of opinion.

Yes. There is zero evidence scientific or otherwise that the economy is only impacted by shutting down.

Thankfully we have economists.

[UNI88]

Got this from Professor Chaos on AGS ...

Can We Discuss Flatten-the-Curve in COVID19? My Eight Assertions

What was once flatten the curve to prevent over-running hospitals has changed to flatten the curve to save lives. Some likened moderation of social distancing to human sacrifice.

That change in framing, I believe, is misleading. I will argue that the cumulative deaths from COVID19 will not be reduced significantly by flatten-the-curve policies. And that this virus will be as dangerous to vulnerable patients in 6 months to a year. We should be allowed to debate this.

My case has eight assertions ...

Excellent and informed (he's a doctor, we have to believe him) commentary.

[AZGrizFan]

Explain. Most of those impacted are retired.

People getting sick and dying impacts the economy whether they're retired or not. Every person who dies is one less consumer. Every worker who dies means their production is lost. Sick people consume healthcare resources. People dying means that wealth is redistributed and people who inherit money might change their consumption (buy a car or a house). A virus impacts the economy in positive and negative ways, it might be a blip compared to the "closure" but it is an impact.

While I'll concede the point that the virus itself impacts the economy, the effect, when measured against the effect of tens of thousands of businesses going under and 25-30 million people suddenly unemployed it's like a gnat on the windshield....worrying about the impact of the virus itself is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic after it's hit the iceberg.

[UNI88]

People getting sick and dying impacts the economy whether they're retired or not. Every person who dies is one less consumer. Every worker who dies means their production is lost. Sick people consume healthcare resources. People dying means that wealth is redistributed and people who inherit money might change their consumption (buy a car or a house). A virus impacts the economy in positive and negative ways, it might be a blip compared to the "closure" but it is an impact.

While I'll concede the point that the virus itself impacts the economy, the effect, when measured against the effect of tens of thousands of businesses going under and 25-30 million people suddenly unemployed it's like a gnat on the windshield....worrying about the impact of the virus itself is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic after it's hit the iceberg.

I don't disagree. I was simply responding to 89's assertion that "The virus doesn't impact the economy."

And read the Can We Discuss Flatten-the-Curve in COVID19? My Eight Assertions article. It has some interesting and relevant points.

[89Hen]

While I'll concede the point that the virus itself impacts the economy, the effect, when measured against the effect of tens of thousands of businesses going under and 25-30 million people suddenly unemployed it's like a gnat on the windshield....worrying about the impact of the virus itself is like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic after it's hit the iceberg.

I don't disagree. I was simply responding to 89's assertion that "The virus doesn't impact the economy."

And read the Can We Discuss Flatten-the-Curve in COVID19? My Eight Assertions article. It has some interesting and relevant points.

I guess I just need to start "With all due respect" and then you'll agree with what I said.

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[CID1990]

The Chinese employ some clever propagandists - many are Westerners

Because those Westerners know how to appeal to you

So you’ll share fucking Chinese propaganda

Congrats, you’re a drone


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I gave us something to laugh at, but okay

That’s why the Chinese use media savvy Westerners and Western educated Chinese to make things like this - so their foot soldiers think they’re funny and spread them around

Good job doing your part for Chairman Xi Thought!


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[UNI88]

I gave us something to laugh at, but okay

That’s why the Chinese use media savvy Westerners and Western educated Chinese to make things like this - so their foot soldiers think they’re funny and spread them around

Good job doing your part for Chairman Xi Thought!

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* though

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[Silenoz]

I gave us something to laugh at, but okay

That’s why the Chinese use media savvy Westerners and Western educated Chinese to make things like this - so their foot soldiers think they’re funny and spread them around

Good job doing your part for Chairman Xi Thought!


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Laugh at. Good lord. Obviously found the thing Cid is touchy about

[CID1990]

That’s why the Chinese use media savvy Westerners and Western educated Chinese to make things like this - so their foot soldiers think they’re funny and spread them around

Good job doing your part for Chairman Xi Thought!

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*Thought

Chairman Mao Thought was a term used during the Cultural Revolution, referring to Mao’s writings in the Little Red Book.

There have been some references to “Chairman Xi Thought” recently in domestic Chinese media as he is being given powers not seen since Mao was Chairman of the CCP


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[CID1990]

That’s why the Chinese use media savvy Westerners and Western educated Chinese to make things like this - so their foot soldiers think they’re funny and spread them around

Good job doing your part for Chairman Xi Thought!


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Laugh at. Good lord. Obviously found the thing Cid is touchy about

I’m just pointing out that the Chinese did their jobs well, at least on you.

I would have thought it would have been Jearf or Jelly but I guess they can use some company.


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[UNI88]

* though

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*Thought

Chairman Mao Thought was a term used during the Cultural Revolution, referring to Mao’s writings in the Little Red Book.

There have been some references to “Chairman Xi Thought” recently in domestic Chinese media as he is being given powers not seen since Mao was Chairman of the CCP


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My apologies and thank you for teaching me something.

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[Silenoz]

Laugh at. Good lord. Obviously found the thing Cid is touchy about

I’m just pointing out that the Chinese did their jobs well, at least on you.

I would have thought it would have been Jearf or Jelly but I guess they can use some company.


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The thought of Chinese propaganda spreading like wildfire through the unwashed masses is your own personal trigger, got it.

[kalm]

Got this from Professor Chaos on AGS ...

Can We Discuss Flatten-the-Curve in COVID19? My Eight Assertions



Excellent and informed (he's a doctor, we have to believe him) commentary.

Can you post 2) and 3)?

[CID1990]

I’m just pointing out that the Chinese did their jobs well, at least on you.

I would have thought it would have been Jearf or Jelly but I guess they can use some company.


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The thought of Chinese propaganda spreading like wildfire through the unwashed masses is your own personal trigger, got it.

Well let’s review:

1) Your post is factually established to be the output of the propaganda arm of the CCP

2) You re-posted it on a public forum (because it was teh funnay)

That makes you a drone

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and 3) Yes, people who aid and abet our enemies do irritate me


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[UNI88]

Can you post 2) and 3)?

It's like the guy has been reading my posts.

[kalm]

Can you post 2) and 3)?

It's like the guy has been reading my posts.

He’s supporting points we’ve both made.

Like many arguments, we’re probably closer on this than we realize.

[Skjellyfetti]

It's like the guy has been reading my posts.

Universal healthcare and internet?

[CID1990]

Can you post 2) and 3)?

It's like the guy has been reading my posts.

I only have one beef with what he posted

No Internet = a key social determinant of health?

[Gil Dobie]

It's like the guy has been reading my posts.

I only have one beef with what he posted

No Internet = a key social determinant of health?

Probably refers to being able to communicate with physicians, without have to physically expose others or be exposed to disease during medical visits. Virtual visits, email and medical website messaging.

[CID1990]

I only have one beef with what he posted

No Internet = a key social determinant of health?

Probably refers to being able to communicate with physicians, without have to physically expose others or be exposed to disease during medical visits. Virtual visits, email and medical website messaging.

Bullshit

He meant Pornhub, Facebook, and fuckin Amazon

[Skjellyfetti]

Twitter threads are a terrible format, but I'm pretty sure he's saying no access to internet makes it pretty hard to attend classes that are moved online.

kids no school (no internet)

[Gil Dobie]

How many sheeple have been following Dr. Trumps lead?

Link

Trump officials reportedly dispute the US COVID-19 death toll, floating a far-fetched theory that hospitals may be inflating cases to get more funding

President Donald Trump believes that the coronavirus death toll is being exaggerated, Axios reported Wednesday.

The news site further quoted two anonymous senior administration officials as speculating that hospitals might be misdiagnosing patients with the novel coronavirus to get extra money from Medicare.

[Ivytalk]

With each day that Drumpf stays in the Covid spotlight, his re-election chances drop. The DNC folks are doing cartwheels....while keeping Grampa Joe locked in a DE basement.