Conservative Latinos Rethink Party Ties

[89Hen]

Are you saying that these neighborhoods are a bad thing?

Only when those in them stay only in them and have trouble with the other Little's. I've seen it around here.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

...Legal residency is fine with me. My point of citizenship is why try to take away that carrot if they truly want to consider themselves an American? If they don't then I don't give a ****. Trying to put a block on pursuit of citizenship as a punishment just seems extremely petty to me.

The thing about "our culture" as hen pointed out is that is a culture everyone. The Irish, Italian, and all the other cultures bring a lot to the pot while still having a good amount of pride in where they, or their ancestors hailed from. It's a good reason in my book to allow the attempt to integrate into being an American.

Wouldn't we kind of make the illegal immigrant lobby have a lot less impact if we give a path and take away what they are bitching about on our own terms?

Smoking crack don't make me a bad guy.

If you have been a convicted felon you cannot own a gun in most jurisdictions. You are still at liberty to otherwise pursue happiness. If you came here illegally you should not be able to vote. They have already won the lottery for their children by coming here illegally. No one is taking that away from them.

The Irish, Italian, and all the other cultures did not march down the street with foreign flags, hiding their faces, demanding "rights" to which they are not entitled, and physically attacking peaceful protesters who opposed them.

Got it and although I won't acquiesce to the point of citizenship I can see the point for sure.

I also see that you have a personal emotional investment in what you have witnessed. Are there some bad elements in the group? Of course there is. Are you possibly painting a lot wider stroke over the entirety of the group because of this experience? I think you may be.

Actually, I think I do acquiesce at this point but only by a razor thin margin on the citizenship issue. You've made a cogent argument on that one.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Are you saying that these neighborhoods are a bad thing?

Only when those in them stay only in them and have trouble with the other Little's. I've seen it around here.

I hear ya on that one hen but if you think about it it's kind of amazing that all these cultures get along as well as they do. There may be small skirmishes but considering how set in our ways and beliefs that we all seem to be and being in as close of contact as some of those groups are it doesn't seem nearly as bad as I would think it would be. Course you have a much closer view of it all than I do.

[native]

...Got it and although I won't acquiesce to the point of citizenship I can see the point for sure.

I also see that you have a personal emotional investment in what you have witnessed. Are there some bad elements in the group? Of course there is. Are you possibly painting a lot wider stroke over the entirety of the group because of this experience? I think you may be.

Actually, I think I do acquiesce at this point but only by a razor thin margin on the citizenship issue. You've made a cogent argument on that one.

Yes, I have a personal investment, but I am not against Mexicans, per se. One of the best cowboys and finest human beings I ever worked with was Mexican.

Eliseo was not at all like the dipshits who march down the street throwing the finger and hiding their faces, write gang graffitti on any empty space, get into public school by falsely claiming residency after getting a copy of a cousin's girlfriend's neighbor''s utility bill, kill people while driving drunk without a license and on and on and on...

I carefull watched the parade of witnesses in yesterday's City Council debate on opposition to the Arizona law. They are not all bad people, for sure. But not being bad should not confer a license to lie, cheat and steal.

On a broader note, I am personally invested in people who do the rights things, and in NOT condoning bad things. That doesn't mean I hate them.

For example, I love my sons infinitely. When one of them went to the pokey I let his ass sit there for a couple of days, not because I don't love him, but because I do love him. Rewarding bad behavior demonstrates neither love nor humanity.

[Rob Iola]

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Smoking crack don't make me a bad guy.

Nah, it's acting out your fantasy life in school zones that makes you a bad guy...

[dbackjon]

...Legal residency is fine with me. My point of citizenship is why try to take away that carrot if they truly want to consider themselves an American? If they don't then I don't give a ****. Trying to put a block on pursuit of citizenship as a punishment just seems extremely petty to me.

The thing about "our culture" as hen pointed out is that is a culture everyone. The Irish, Italian, and all the other cultures bring a lot to the pot while still having a good amount of pride in where they, or their ancestors hailed from. It's a good reason in my book to allow the attempt to integrate into being an American.

Wouldn't we kind of make the illegal immigrant lobby have a lot less impact if we give a path and take away what they are bitching about on our own terms?

Smoking crack don't make me a bad guy.

The Irish, Italian, and all the other cultures did not march down the street with foreign flags, hiding their faces, demanding "rights" to which they are not entitled, and physically attacking peaceful protesters who opposed them.

I created a thread just for you. research the "Nativist" period of US history...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

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Smoking crack don't make me a bad guy.

Nah, it's acting out your fantasy life in school zones that makes you a bad guy...

We all have our demons brother. Mine just happens to be Garanimals.

[89Hen]

I hear ya on that one hen but if you think about it it's kind of amazing that all these cultures get along as well as they do. There may be small skirmishes but considering how set in our ways and beliefs that we all seem to be and being in as close of contact as some of those groups are it doesn't seem nearly as bad as I would think it would be. Course you have a much closer view of it all than I do.

I agree, but I think part of it is that there are so many groups, any two or three groups aren't big enough to have a battle like we see in other parts of the world. The closest thing is black/white, but that battle is much less today than it was over the last 200 years.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I hear ya on that one hen but if you think about it it's kind of amazing that all these cultures get along as well as they do. There may be small skirmishes but considering how set in our ways and beliefs that we all seem to be and being in as close of contact as some of those groups are it doesn't seem nearly as bad as I would think it would be. Course you have a much closer view of it all than I do.

I agree, but I think part of it is that there are so many groups, any two or three groups aren't big enough to have a battle like we see in other parts of the world. The closest thing is black/white, but that battle is much less today than it was over the last 200 years.

I hear ya but I'm still being vigilant and preparing daily for when this race war hits. I've been watching hours of video (a minute or two at a time) on big tittied black girls to know their every move.

[grizzaholic]

I agree, but I think part of it is that there are so many groups, any two or three groups aren't big enough to have a battle like we see in other parts of the world. The closest thing is black/white, but that battle is much less today than it was over the last 200 years.

I hear ya but I'm still being vigilant and preparing daily for when this race war hits. I've been watching hours of video (a minute or two at a time) on big tittied black girls to know their every move.

I am not sure if your expertise on the movements of black girls tits while jogging on the beach will help much in the up-and-coming race war.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

I hear ya but I'm still being vigilant and preparing daily for when this race war hits. I've been watching hours of video (a minute or two at a time) on big tittied black girls to know their every move.

I am not sure if your expertise on the movements of black girls tits while jogging on the beach will help much in the up-and-coming race war.

Your objectives are clearly different than mine.

[grizzaholic]

I am not sure if your expertise on the movements of black girls tits while jogging on the beach will help much in the up-and-coming race war.

Your objectives are clearly different than mine.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Your objectives are clearly different than mine.

[native]

...I created a thread just for you. research the "Nativist" period of US history...

Point taken, jon, even before I look at your thread.