EGYPT

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

wow. Jelly do you notice how you've shifted from using sound logic (biased as it may be) in the past couple of years? You now consistently try and link things together with very thin threads.

[Chizzang]

We haven't given one hairy sh!t about the native American population in this country since day one - other than what could be called "for all appearances" type behavior... actions always speak the loudest - we basically killed them all and herded the remaining populations like cattle into little corners

World history has shown - over and over - You can't build an empire and simultaneously be "worried" about natives - it just doesn’t work like that…

So building a Wal-Mart (one of our most powerful and prized of the current deity) on anything Native American is a complete "so what"… Native Americans were all over the place 300 years ago – hell you can’t piss on a flat rock without hitting some old Native something or other. Effectively they are gone, done, wiped out, removed, an old story that has almost no value or moral in today’s world

[Wedgebuster]

We haven't given one hairy sh!t about the native American population in this country since day one - other than what could be called "for all appearances" type behavior... actions always speak the loudest - we basically killed them all and herded the remaining populations like cattle into little corners

World history has shown - over and over - You can't build an empire and simultaneously be "worried" about natives - it just doesn’t work like that…

So building a Wal-Mart (one of our most powerful and prized of the current deity) on anything Native American is a complete "so what"… Native Americans were all over the place 300 years ago – hell you can’t piss on a flat rock without hitting some old Native something or other. Effectively they are gone, done, wiped out, removed, an old story that has almost no value or moral in today’s world

They are alive and well, not well, and still hanging at the Walmarts and Targets on or near the first of each month in any population center that is near a reservation. Billings is a great example.

I dunno about these folks, I am all over that man created equal idea and all, but these folks just ain't adjusting to the modern world. It's one of the saddest human tragedys today.

[Grizalltheway]

I dunno about these folks, I am all over that man created equal idea and all, but these folks just ain't adjusting to the modern world. It's one of the saddest human tragedys today.

If anyone needs proof of this, take a trip to Browning or Hardin, MT.

[Grizo406]

We haven't given one hairy sh!t about the native American population in this country since day one - other than what could be called "for all appearances" type behavior... actions always speak the loudest - we basically killed them all and herded the remaining populations like cattle into little corners

World history has shown - over and over - You can't build an empire and simultaneously be "worried" about natives - it just doesn’t work like that…

So building a Wal-Mart (one of our most powerful and prized of the current deity) on anything Native American is a complete "so what"… Native Americans were all over the place 300 years ago – hell you can’t piss on a flat rock without hitting some old Native something or other. Effectively they are gone, done, wiped out, removed, an old story that has almost no value or moral in today’s world

I always knew I liked you, Chizz, but I really couldn't understand why?!!?

Now I know!

Brilliant post!

[Ibanez]

We haven't given one hairy sh!t about the native American population in this country since day one - other than what could be called "for all appearances" type behavior... actions always speak the loudest - we basically killed them all and herded the remaining populations like cattle into little corners

World history has shown - over and over - You can't build an empire and simultaneously be "worried" about natives - it just doesn’t work like that…

So building a Wal-Mart (one of our most powerful and prized of the current deity) on anything Native American is a complete "so what"… Native Americans were all over the place 300 years ago – hell you can’t piss on a flat rock without hitting some old Native something or other. Effectively they are gone, done, wiped out, removed, an old story that has almost no value or moral in today’s world

You left out that you build an empire on the backs of the offers. Otherwise, great post!

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Holy shit. They are doing a live report with a person at Liberation Square right now and there is a pretty massive barage of machine gun fire going on now coming from the Mubarek supporters from what they are saying.

Some of the residents interviewed said that they recognized a lot of the government supporters as police officers.

Now tanks are moving and the Military has started shooting warning shots in the air. It looks like the Military may be moving in to quell this now.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Grizalltheway]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heard that one too. Sure makes you glad to live where we do.

[YoUDeeMan]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heard that one too. Sure makes you glad to live where we do.

Eh...we've got Camden, NJ and Chester, PA nearby. If they had live microphones, you'd hear gunfire from there just about now, too.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Heard that one too. Sure makes you glad to live where we do.

Yeah, especially when she said that she's never known democracy and that she's read about it and that's what they want.

[kalm]

Heard that one too. Sure makes you glad to live where we do.

Eh...we've got Camden, NJ and Chester, PA nearby. If they had live microphones, you'd hear gunfire from there just about now, too.

Seriously though. Egypt has a 20% christian population. It's not as if these neccessarily a bunch of Al Queada/Taliban/Muslim Brotherhood/ folks getting uppity.

[YoUDeeMan]

wow. Jelly do you notice how you've shifted from using sound logic (biased as it may be) in the past couple of years? You now consistently try and link things together with very thin threads.

DJ JazzyDukes should pay attention. It really is very simple...jellyboy can't be taken seriously anymore - dude has lost it.

[kalm]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When you google or post things like AlJazeera, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quaeda, etc, in the course of a day or few minutes, do you ever stop to wonder if you just went on some kind of list?

(Of course we're not alone in doing this, but still...)

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Eh...we've got Camden, NJ and Chester, PA nearby. If they had live microphones, you'd hear gunfire from there just about now, too.

Seriously though. Egypt has a 20% christian population. It's not as if these neccessarily a bunch of Al Queada/Taliban/Muslim Brotherhood/ folks getting uppity.

The citizen on the line said that it was specifically not a large percentage of Muslim Brotherhood in the group. It is mostly regular citizens from what she said.

Demonstrators have now taken a bridge over that pro Mubarek supporters were using as a high vantage point for firing on the crowd. They have just captured one of the pro Mubarek guys that was firing on them as well apparently.

The reporter says that taking the bridge over is a game changer.

[kalm]

Seriously though. Egypt has a 20% christian population. It's not as if these neccessarily a bunch of Al Queada/Taliban/Muslim Brotherhood/ folks getting uppity.

The citizen on the line said that it was specifically not a large percentage of Muslim Brotherhood in the group. It is mostly regular citizens from what she said.

Demonstrators have now taken a bridge over that pro Mubarek supporters were using as a high vantage point for firing on the crowd. They have just captured one of the pro Mubarek guys that was firing on them as well apparently.

The reporter says that taking the bridge over is a game changer.

I've now got your link to Aljazeera Live on the laptop and MSNBC on the tube. Thanks to you this is turning into a Saturday game thread for me.

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

Man, it's pretty heartbreaking listening to a 30 yr. old woman on the line in the square. She was frantic and said she's afraid she's gonna die but they are not leaving anyway.

She says that the crowd is made up of many different people and not just the Muslim brotherhood but normal women and children among others. She says that the government supporters fighting against the anti government crowd are made up of a lot of parliament, intelligence, and police that are firing on the crowd.

Here's a link if anyone wants to listen to the reports.

http://www.youtube.com/user/AlJazeeraEnglish" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

When you google or post things like AlJazeera, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quaeda, etc, in the course of a day or few minutes, do you ever stop to wonder if you just went on some kind of list?

(Of course we're not alone in doing this, but still...)

It gave me pause a couple years ago when I was using the site during the Iran thing but I don't really give a fuck. I'll get my information from the best source and if our government doesn't like it then they can fuck off.

The fact that they have that ability in the first place is a god damn affront to me.

[kalm]

When you google or post things like AlJazeera, Muslim Brotherhood, Al Quaeda, etc, in the course of a day or few minutes, do you ever stop to wonder if you just went on some kind of list?

(Of course we're not alone in doing this, but still...)

It gave me pause a couple years ago when I was using the site during the Iran thing but I don't really give a fuck. I'll get my information from the best source and if our government doesn't like it then they can fuck off.

The fact that they have that ability in the first place is a god damn affront to me.

Atta boy.

Wait..Turnover!

[Grizalltheway]

Heard that one too. Sure makes you glad to live where we do.

Eh...we've got Camden, NJ and Chester, PA nearby. If they had live microphones, you'd hear gunfire from there just about now, too.

I don't doubt it...hence why I don't live there.

[T-Dog]

Here's a picture of Coptic Christians protecting Muslims during prayer.

http://yfrog.com/h02gvclj" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You can not listen to these people being interviewed and remain impartial on this.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

You can not listen to these people being interviewed and remain impartial on this.

THIS.

Seeing a 50 year old woman shout "we are here! we aren't leaving! we will not kneel any longer! we are willing to die for our freedom!" really is exciting and heartening...

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

You can not listen to these people being interviewed and remain impartial on this.

THIS.

Seeing a 50 year old woman shout "we are here! we aren't leaving! we will not kneel any longer! we are willing to die for our freedom!" really is exciting and heartening...

It seems very clear that this is state sponsored now from Mubarek and I just don't see how he can last now. After having a little time to think about this I think that the military will not stand aside if the pro Mubarek crowd begins another attack on this crowd. I realize that both sides are Egyptian but one side is taking the casualties because they don't have the weapons and the other does. That seems very weird as well if this were Taliban types and so forth...why no weapons to counter?

It will be very interesting to see if the military stands down if this continues. Whether this is Mubarek supported or not it looks that way and it is/was a poor move because he and his regime have nothing to stand on now.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

THIS.

Seeing a 50 year old woman shout "we are here! we aren't leaving! we will not kneel any longer! we are willing to die for our freedom!" really is exciting and heartening...

It seems very clear that this is state sponsored now from Mubarek and I just don't see how he can last now. After having a little time to think about this I think that the military will not stand aside if the pro Mubarek crowd begins another attack on this crowd. I realize that both sides are Egyptian but one side is taking the casualties because they don't have the weapons and the other does. That seems very weird as well if this were Taliban types and so forth...why no weapons to counter?

It will be very interesting to see if the military stands down if this continues.

this latest from al-jazeera is interesting... state TV in Egypt now showing demonstrators and portraying them as the thugs and instigators of violence...

this cuts two ways... 1 - if this is the only source of information - could be very bad for the protesters... or 2 - large portions of the country (like in many parts of the censored world) have satellite dishes and are getting other sources... if those people see the contradiction it could work in reverse and turn worse for the regime

[Ursus A. Horribilis]

It seems very clear that this is state sponsored now from Mubarek and I just don't see how he can last now. After having a little time to think about this I think that the military will not stand aside if the pro Mubarek crowd begins another attack on this crowd. I realize that both sides are Egyptian but one side is taking the casualties because they don't have the weapons and the other does. That seems very weird as well if this were Taliban types and so forth...why no weapons to counter?

It will be very interesting to see if the military stands down if this continues.

this latest from al-jazeera is interesting... state TV in Egypt now showing demonstrators and portraying them as the thugs and instigators of violence...

this cuts two ways... 1 - if this is the only source of information - could be very bad for the protesters... or 2 - large portions of the country (like in many parts of the censored world) have satellite dishes and are getting other sources... if those people see the contradiction it could work in reverse and turn worse for the regime

With the cell service and people on the ground tweeting I don't see how the contradiction will not be seen. Internet & cell service is gonna kill that idea I think.