TTBF: Nobody Gives a Shit About the Deficit, Huh?

[Skjellyfetti]

Typical Skelly, you bring nothing to conversation but charts that hold bearing to discussion, how your parents let you on the internet for so long unchecked I will never know

lol. you're the one who lashes out at me with "dipstick fuck"

and, i actually pay my own internet bill every month. i get to decide how much time i spend on the internet for myself!! growing up has a few perks.

[youngterrier]

Typical Skelly, you bring nothing to conversation but charts that hold bearing to discussion, how your parents let you on the internet for so long unchecked I will never know

lol. you're the one who lashes out at me with "dipstick fuck"

and, i actually pay my own internet bill every month.

so? Skelly's growing up I wonder how many "steamboat willies" you had to give to afford that.

[kalm]

Take deep breaths and calm down, Opie Jr. This is just the internet. Everything will be ok.






Also, here's what the United Methodist Church has to say on it:

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And too many people think that living wage should provide a cellphone, computer with internet access, cable TV, etc, etc.

Also HS and college age don't need a job with a "living wage".

That's kind of my question and I'm not professing to know the answer.

But imagine removing all of the sales of those cellphones, computers, etc that are made by the working poor from the economy, not to mention the entry level homes, and where would we be?

[BDKJMU]

And too many people think that living wage should provide a cellphone, computer with internet access, cable TV, etc, etc.

Also HS and college age don't need a job with a "living wage".

That's kind of my question and I'm not professing to know the answer.

But imagine removing all of the sales of those cellphones, computers, etc that are made by the working poor from the economy, not to mention the entry level homes, and where would we be?

I doubt there are "working poor" in the US building computers, cell phones, and entry level homes.

Anyway, thats not what I am talking about. I am saying that people who have cell phones, internet, and cable TV aren't "working poor".

[dbackjon]

That's kind of my question and I'm not professing to know the answer.

But imagine removing all of the sales of those cellphones, computers, etc that are made by the working poor from the economy, not to mention the entry level homes, and where would we be?

I doubt there are "working poor" in the US building computers, cell phones, and entry level homes.

Anyway, thats not what I am talking about. I am saying that people who have cell phones, internet, and cable TV aren't "working poor".

One quibble - cable, yes. But it is very difficult to find/maintain work without a phone of some sort. And most job searches require the internet these days.

[BDKJMU]

I doubt there are "working poor" in the US building computers, cell phones, and entry level homes.

Anyway, thats not what I am talking about. I am saying that people who have cell phones, internet, and cable TV aren't "working poor".

One quibble - cable, yes. But it is very difficult to find/maintain work without a phone of some sort. And most job searches require the internet these days.

Libraries and unemployment centers have internet. A phone can be a landline, which are usually much cheaper than cellphones. My landline costs about $16-17 a month.

[Skjellyfetti]

Libraries and unemployment centers have internet. A phone can be a landline, which are usually much cheaper than cellphones. My landline costs about $16-17 a month.

You can get a disposable cell phone for $10 and a $5 rebate for turning it in when the minutes are gone. I bet most of the poor folks' cell phones you see and bitch about are disposables. I saw guys riding donkeys and talking on disposable cell phones in Mexico. They aren't expensive.

[OpieGSU]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the shit out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of shit you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

[ODUsmitty]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

You and your acquaintances are not my concern, nor are they my responsibility. Stick your personal attacks up your poverty-stricken arse.

[grizzaholic]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the shit out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of shit you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

What the hell do you have against Grizo? HUH?

[CID1990]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

Jonathan Swift had a very good proposal on how to deal with poverty in "A Modest Proposal."

BTW- I spent 17 years dealing with poor people and you're right: it was certainly no party for them.

[AZGrizFan]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the shit out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of shit you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

Don't "we as a society" have volumes and volumes of programs already established for people like her?

And FYI, she's just as much a "traditional myth" as the poor people with X-boxes, so stick your self righteous shit right up your ass...how the fuck do YOU know whether or not any of us have ever known what it's like to be poor? You know all our backstories, dumbass?

[ODUsmitty]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

OpieGSU-

I am writing this for you, so you can understand the perspective from which I come.

My father was an orphan. My mother was raised by her grandparents due to a broken family. No silver spoon ever entered our childhood house.

I paid $42,516 in Federal taxes last year. This excludes SS, Medicare, state taxes, etc. I went to a public college (ODU) because I was awarded an ACADEMIC scholly, and honored that award by graduating magna cum laude with a degree in Chemistry.

My kids are comfortable; but I can guarantee that they have less "trinkets" than 50% of those same-aged kids living below the poverty line. I have taught them to value what they have, and do not attempt to keep up with the latest toys that supposedly all kids need to have. They wait for those things they want, and so do I.

You comment about the plight of the poor. Nice that you care. I do not. The supposed poor in this country are all about "what is owed them" and image, vice substance and real value. Most cannot speak English properly, and less have the social skills to adequately take a fast food order.

A woman with multiple kids makes decisions, just like I have. Spread your legs to some aggressive vermin, bear a bastard child, and live with the consequences. Not my decision, and not my responsibility. I have no legal nor ethical imperative to give a damn about those that continually make decisions that make them dependent upon others.

You want sympathy. Ok then, improve the decisions you make, start to be a net contributor to society, vice a recipient, and get some skin in the game. If you pay more than you receive, then you can reasonably enter the argument about how your tax money is spent. Otherwise, you and your ilk should shut the the hell up, other than your moral obligation to THANK THOSE LIKE ME that foot your bill. I do not do it voluntarily, and pray for the day when a little hunger in the belly means someone like you and your ilk actually has to contribute something to society other than producing generational voting blocks for the Democratic machine.

I loathe you and your agenda. Circumstances are never permanent (except in the case of birth defect and chronic disease), and I am sick of tired of funding generational dependancy in the name of my supposed social responsibility.

Just because you exist does not mean that I have a responsibility to fund you and your weaknesses. Grow up, carry your own weight (and that of your family), and shut the hell up about why you suck at this game of life in 2011 versus those that have figured it out, you pathetic piece of human excrement.

Can you hear me now?

[OpieGSU]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

OpieGSU-

I am writing this for you, so you can understand the perspective from which I come.

My father was an orphan. My mother was raised by her grandparents due to a broken family. No silver spoon ever entered our childhood house.

I paid $42,516 in Federal taxes last year. This excludes SS, Medicare, state taxes, etc. I went to a public college (ODU) because I was awarded an ACADEMIC scholly, and honored that award by graduating magna cum laude with a degree in Chemistry.

My kids are comfortable; but I can guarantee that they have less "trinkets" than 50% of those same-aged kids living below the poverty line. I have taught them to value what they have, and do not attempt to keep up with the latest toys that supposedly all kids need to have. They wait for those things they want, and so do I.

You comment about the plight of the poor. Nice that you care. I do not. The supposed poor in this country are all about "what is owed them" and image, vice substance and real value. Most cannot speak English properly, and less have the social skills to adequately take a fast food order.

A woman with multiple kids makes decisions, just like I have. Spread your legs to some aggressive vermin, bear a bastard child, and live with the consequences. Not my decision, and not my responsibility. I have no legal nor ethical imperative to give a damn about those that continually make decisions that make them dependent upon others.

You want sympathy. Ok then, improve the decisions you make, start to be a net contributor to society, vice a recipient, and get some skin in the game. If you pay more than you receive, then you can reasonably enter the argument about how your tax money is spent. Otherwise, you and your ilk should shut the the hell up, other than your moral obligation to THANK THOSE LIKE ME that foot your bill. I do not do it voluntarily, and pray for the day when a little hunger in the belly means someone like you and your ilk actually has to contribute something to society other than producing generational voting blocks for the Democratic machine.

I loathe you and your agenda. Circumstances are never permanent (except in the case of birth defect and chronic disease), and I am sick of tired of funding generational dependancy in the name of my supposed social responsibility.

Just because you exist does not mean that I have a responsibility to fund you and your weaknesses. Grow up, carry your own weight (and that of your family), and shut the hell up about why you suck at this game of life in 2011 versus those that have figured it out, you pathetic piece of human excrement.

Can you hear me now?

All I hear is an agry white guy, who has bought into every single anectdotal myth about "welfare moms". It's great that you pulled yourself out of your situation. I'm happy for you. I suspect that you didn't do it completely alone. Nobody does. You either had a teacher, or a mentor, or somebody who helped you out. Maybe it was monetary, maybe it was by giving you a shot when nobody else would, or maybe it was just giving you sound guidance along the way.
The bottom line is that nobody is in it alone in this world, and your lack of senstivity to people who may not have had the same circumstances that allowed you to rise out of poverty is pretty callous in my opinion. That attitude makes the world a shittier place to live for sure.
The fact of the matter is that education plays a huge role in people's lives, both in terms of their ability to earn as adults, and in terms of the decision-making ability. In many cases we are talking about people who are victims of the cycle of generational abuse and chronic neglect. It's very easy for you to sit behind your keyboard, and tackily "brag" about how much money you paid in taxes last year, while somebody is out there hungry, and wondering how they will feed their kids tomorrow. 'There but before the grace of god go I.'
I'm sure you are a church goer. Maybe start appyling that Jesus to yuor real life, and not just for an obligatory hour on sunday.

[AZGrizFan]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

OpieGSU-

I am writing this for you, so you can understand the perspective from which I come.

My father was an orphan. My mother was raised by her grandparents due to a broken family. No silver spoon ever entered our childhood house.

I paid $42,516 in Federal taxes last year. This excludes SS, Medicare, state taxes, etc. I went to a public college (ODU) because I was awarded an ACADEMIC scholly, and honored that award by graduating magna cum laude with a degree in Chemistry.

My kids are comfortable; but I can guarantee that they have less "trinkets" than 50% of those same-aged kids living below the poverty line. I have taught them to value what they have, and do not attempt to keep up with the latest toys that supposedly all kids need to have. They wait for those things they want, and so do I.

You comment about the plight of the poor. Nice that you care. I do not. The supposed poor in this country are all about "what is owed them" and image, vice substance and real value. Most cannot speak English properly, and less have the social skills to adequately take a fast food order.

A woman with multiple kids makes decisions, just like I have. Spread your legs to some aggressive vermin, bear a bastard child, and live with the consequences. Not my decision, and not my responsibility. I have no legal nor ethical imperative to give a damn about those that continually make decisions that make them dependent upon others.

You want sympathy. Ok then, improve the decisions you make, start to be a net contributor to society, vice a recipient, and get some skin in the game. If you pay more than you receive, then you can reasonably enter the argument about how your tax money is spent. Otherwise, you and your ilk should shut the the hell up, other than your moral obligation to THANK THOSE LIKE ME that foot your bill. I do not do it voluntarily, and pray for the day when a little hunger in the belly means someone like you and your ilk actually has to contribute something to society other than producing generational voting blocks for the Democratic machine.

I loathe you and your agenda. Circumstances are never permanent (except in the case of birth defect and chronic disease), and I am sick of tired of funding generational dependancy in the name of my supposed social responsibility.

Just because you exist does not mean that I have a responsibility to fund you and your weaknesses. Grow up, carry your own weight (and that of your family), and shut the hell up about why you suck at this game of life in 2011 versus those that have figured it out, you pathetic piece of human excrement.

Can you hear me now?

JBBP for President.

[AZGrizFan]

All I hear is an agry white guy, who has bought into every single anectdotal myth about "welfare moms". It's great that you pulled yourself out of your situation. I'm happy for you. I suspect that you didn't do it completely alone. Nobody does. You either had a teacher, or a mentor, or somebody who helped you out. Maybe it was monetary, maybe it was by giving you a shot when nobody else would, or maybe it was just giving you sound guidance along the way.
The bottom line is that nobody is in it alone in this world, and your lack of senstivity to people who may not have had the same circumstances that allowed you to rise out of poverty is pretty callous in my opinion. That attitude makes the world a shittier place to live for sure.
The fact of the matter is that education plays a huge role in people's lives, both in terms of their ability to earn as adults, and in terms of the decision-making ability. In many cases we are talking about people who are victims of the cycle of generational abuse and chronic neglect. It's very easy for you to sit behind your keyboard, and tackily "brag" about how much money you paid in taxes last year, while somebody is out there hungry, and wondering how they will feed their kids tomorrow. 'There but before the grace of god go I.'
I'm sure you are a church goer. Maybe start appyling that Jesus to yuor real life, and not just for an obligatory hour on sunday.

You suspect....you're sure....you sure do a lot of ASSuming for a supposed attorney.

Take your limousine liberal attitudes and stick 'em where the sun don't shine. The only part that makes people like me and JBBP angry is when holier-than-thou assholes like you insist on telling US how WE should feel regarding people who, for the most part, started out just like we did. I have no intention of giving you my life story, but suffice it to say I wasn't born with a silver spoon either. In the end, a person's life is all about decisions and consequences, Opie. Some people make bad decisions, and they have to live with the consequences. Tough shit. Your philosophy of giving them a helping hand is a smokescreen because most don't want a helping hand up and out of poverty, they just want free shit. And as long as you keep providing them free shit they're perfectly happy living that life. And they keep making bad decisions, because we (society) keep enabling them and telling them that nothing is their fault and we have some mythical obligation to "take care of them".

Sorry. I think I'll go buy a bigger boat instead.

[ODUsmitty]

What he said............AGF speaks the truth.

[AZGrizFan]

What he said............AGF speaks the truth.

War on poverty = Colossal failure. $100 billion and counting since Johnson launched the "war" during his term, and we're no closer to a solution than before, but the country is bankrupt. Nice job, donks. Opie is your fucking poster child for stupidity.

[OpieGSU]

All I hear is an agry white guy, who has bought into every single anectdotal myth about "welfare moms". It's great that you pulled yourself out of your situation. I'm happy for you. I suspect that you didn't do it completely alone. Nobody does. You either had a teacher, or a mentor, or somebody who helped you out. Maybe it was monetary, maybe it was by giving you a shot when nobody else would, or maybe it was just giving you sound guidance along the way.
The bottom line is that nobody is in it alone in this world, and your lack of senstivity to people who may not have had the same circumstances that allowed you to rise out of poverty is pretty callous in my opinion. That attitude makes the world a shittier place to live for sure.
The fact of the matter is that education plays a huge role in people's lives, both in terms of their ability to earn as adults, and in terms of the decision-making ability. In many cases we are talking about people who are victims of the cycle of generational abuse and chronic neglect. It's very easy for you to sit behind your keyboard, and tackily "brag" about how much money you paid in taxes last year, while somebody is out there hungry, and wondering how they will feed their kids tomorrow. 'There but before the grace of god go I.'
I'm sure you are a church goer. Maybe start appyling that Jesus to yuor real life, and not just for an obligatory hour on sunday.

You suspect....you're sure....you sure do a lot of ASSuming for a supposed attorney.

Take your limousine liberal attitudes and stick 'em where the sun don't shine. The only part that makes people like me and JBBP angry is when holier-than-thou ******* like you insist on telling US how WE should feel regarding people who, for the most part, started out just like we did. I have no intention of giving you my life story, but suffice it to say I wasn't born with a silver spoon either. In the end, a person's life is all about decisions and consequences, Opie. Some people make bad decisions, and they have to live with the consequences. Tough ****. Your philosophy of giving them a helping hand is a smokescreen because most don't want a helping hand up and out of poverty, they just want free ****. And as long as you keep providing them free **** they're perfectly happy living that life. And they keep making bad decisions, because we (society) keep enabling them and telling them that nothing is their fault and we have some mythical obligation to "take care of them".

Sorry. I think I'll go buy a bigger boat instead.

Who is "they"? hmmmm. I think I see what you really mean. Nice.
You ever been hungry? I mean really hungry and not know where your next meal is coming from? Ever been beaten down by an abusive boyfriend who you can't leave because he helps pay the light bill? Ever suffered horrific child abuse? Probably not.
Try sitting across a desk from a person like that who comes to you for help, and tell them that they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
I have no doubt that your history is nothing compared to real chronic poverty that exists in this country.
If it is then do share. If not, then you're nothing but an insensitive selfish jerk, who gives nothing about the plight of his fellow man. I hope you never find yourself in circumstances where you need real help.

[AZGrizFan]

You suspect....you're sure....you sure do a lot of ASSuming for a supposed attorney.

Take your limousine liberal attitudes and stick 'em where the sun don't shine. The only part that makes people like me and JBBP angry is when holier-than-thou ******* like you insist on telling US how WE should feel regarding people who, for the most part, started out just like we did. I have no intention of giving you my life story, but suffice it to say I wasn't born with a silver spoon either. In the end, a person's life is all about decisions and consequences, Opie. Some people make bad decisions, and they have to live with the consequences. Tough ****. Your philosophy of giving them a helping hand is a smokescreen because most don't want a helping hand up and out of poverty, they just want free ****. And as long as you keep providing them free **** they're perfectly happy living that life. And they keep making bad decisions, because we (society) keep enabling them and telling them that nothing is their fault and we have some mythical obligation to "take care of them".

Sorry. I think I'll go buy a bigger boat instead.

Who is "they"? hmmmm. I think I see what you really mean. Nice.
You ever been hungry? I mean really hungry and not know where your next meal is coming from? Ever been beaten down by an abusive boyfriend who you can't leave because he helps pay the light bill? Ever suffered horrific child abuse? Probably not.
Try sitting across a desk from a person like that who comes to you for help, and tell them that they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
I have no doubt that your history is nothing compared to real chronic poverty that exists in this country.
If it is then do share. If not, then you're nothing but an insensitive selfish jerk, who gives nothing about the plight of his fellow man. I hope you never find yourself in circumstances where you need real help.

There you go again, making huge ASSumptions. I've never met a retarded "lawyer" before, but then again, based on what you describe as your job, I'm guessing you're an "internet lawyer" who's actually a $9/hour social worker.

[OpieGSU]

Who is "they"? hmmmm. I think I see what you really mean. Nice.
You ever been hungry? I mean really hungry and not know where your next meal is coming from? Ever been beaten down by an abusive boyfriend who you can't leave because he helps pay the light bill? Ever suffered horrific child abuse? Probably not.
Try sitting across a desk from a person like that who comes to you for help, and tell them that they need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.
I have no doubt that your history is nothing compared to real chronic poverty that exists in this country.
If it is then do share. If not, then you're nothing but an insensitive selfish jerk, who gives nothing about the plight of his fellow man. I hope you never find yourself in circumstances where you need real help.

There you go again, making huge ASSumptions. I've never met a retarded "lawyer" before, but then again, based on what you describe as your job, I'm guessing you're an "internet lawyer" who's actually a $9/hour social worker.

It's a pretty safe assumption to say that there are not a lot of chronic poor on the internet talking about FCS football, who are conservative republicans from Arizona. Don't be so fucking stupid.

[Baldy]

What he said............AGF speaks the truth.

War on poverty = Colossal failure. $100 billion and counting since Johnson launched the "war" during his term, and we're no closer to a solution than before, but the country is bankrupt. Nice job, donks. Opie is your fucking poster child for stupidity.

I wish it were only $100 billion. Actually it's closer to $8 TRILLION.

[AZGrizFan]

There you go again, making huge ASSumptions. I've never met a retarded "lawyer" before, but then again, based on what you describe as your job, I'm guessing you're an "internet lawyer" who's actually a $9/hour social worker.

It's a pretty safe assumption to say that there are not a lot of chronic poor on the internet talking about FCS football, who are conservative republicans from Arizona. Don't be so fucking stupid.

Jesus, you really ARE retarded, aren't you? Reread your OWN FUCKING POST and then get back to me, moron. If you can't figure it out from there, I'll draw you a picture in crayon, since that's the intelligence level you're exhibiting at this point.

[DJH]

None of you lily white suburban rubes has any idea at all what it means to be poor. The fact that you think all most poor people have xboxes and androids pretty much shows how stupid and insensitive you people are. This is the traditional myth of the welfare mom having babies to make money, while you hard workin white boys have to "carry her weight on your tax dollar". What a bunch of simpletons you are. I deal with poor people every single day, and I can assure you it ain't no party for them. Ever talk to a woman who can't leave her boyfriend or husband who beats the **** out of her because he is the one who pays the bills/ I see that sht everyday. If that woman goes out on her own to protect herself and her children, don't we as a society owe it to her to not let her slip through the cracks?
And who in god's name can get by in the modern world and the modern job market without a god damn cell phone? I'm sorry but in 2011, a cell phone is a necessity.
You fat pigs all make me sick. Your lack of sensitivity to people with real problems while you sit behind your keyboards stuffing cheetoes into your pieholes shows what pieces of **** you really are. God, you all should pray and hope that none of you ever know the real pain of poverty. "There but before the grace of god go I".

OpieGSU-

I am writing this for you, so you can understand the perspective from which I come.

My father was an orphan. My mother was raised by her grandparents due to a broken family. No silver spoon ever entered our childhood house.

I paid $42,516 in Federal taxes last year. This excludes SS, Medicare, state taxes, etc. I went to a public college (ODU) because I was awarded an ACADEMIC scholly, and honored that award by graduating magna cum laude with a degree in Chemistry.

My kids are comfortable; but I can guarantee that they have less "trinkets" than 50% of those same-aged kids living below the poverty line. I have taught them to value what they have, and do not attempt to keep up with the latest toys that supposedly all kids need to have. They wait for those things they want, and so do I.

You comment about the plight of the poor. Nice that you care. I do not. The supposed poor in this country are all about "what is owed them" and image, vice substance and real value. Most cannot speak English properly, and less have the social skills to adequately take a fast food order.

A woman with multiple kids makes decisions, just like I have. Spread your legs to some aggressive vermin, bear a bastard child, and live with the consequences. Not my decision, and not my responsibility. I have no legal nor ethical imperative to give a damn about those that continually make decisions that make them dependent upon others.

You want sympathy. Ok then, improve the decisions you make, start to be a net contributor to society, vice a recipient, and get some skin in the game. If you pay more than you receive, then you can reasonably enter the argument about how your tax money is spent. Otherwise, you and your ilk should shut the the hell up, other than your moral obligation to THANK THOSE LIKE ME that foot your bill. I do not do it voluntarily, and pray for the day when a little hunger in the belly means someone like you and your ilk actually has to contribute something to society other than producing generational voting blocks for the Democratic machine.

I loathe you and your agenda. Circumstances are never permanent (except in the case of birth defect and chronic disease), and I am sick of tired of funding generational dependancy in the name of my supposed social responsibility.

Just because you exist does not mean that I have a responsibility to fund you and your weaknesses. Grow up, carry your own weight (and that of your family), and shut the hell up about why you suck at this game of life in 2011 versus those that have figured it out, you pathetic piece of human excrement.

Can you hear me now?

[ODUsmitty]

opie makes many assumptions and sweeping accusations about the motives of those who choose not to agree with giving their hard-earned dollars to those that make bad decisions out of habit.

I'll pass the baton to you, my liberal, dependent friend. Please tell me how, after involuntarily donating our hard-earned tax dollars to the federal government on your behalf, what more should us fat, lazy, entitled, conservatives do to serve the interests of your oh-so-needy acquaintances?