What should the USA ban?

[DSUrocks07]

As implied earlier, gun and ammo sales are about to shoot through the roof.

ABOUT TO???

They skyrocketed in early November, and will reach a zenith in the next week or two...

Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a decent AR in March with my tax refund.

[Col Hogan]

Extremists always want to ban things when tragedies happen. The Simpsons banned guns and guess what happened? ALIEN INVASION. I have no problem with someone owning a rifle, shotgun or a handgun. But assault rifles aren't necessary of the weekend warrior at the gun range. We need reform, you can own a gun but there are certain guns that don't need to be in the publics hand, like an Uzi.

So, how would you craft such a ban...based on caliber, size, look???

You are starting down a slippery slope...

[Col Hogan]

ABOUT TO???

They skyrocketed in early November, and will reach a zenith in the next week or two...

Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a decent AR in March with my tax refund.

It may be too late, if The anti-Constitutionalists get their way...

[DSUrocks07]

Hopefully I'll be able to pick up a decent AR in March with my tax refund.

It may be too late, if The anti-Constitutionalists get their way...

That's what I'm afraid of...

[93henfan]

The libs just want to exploit the opportunity to get some sort of legislation passed so they can thump their chests. The funny thing is, most of these libs don't know dick about guns. The NRA should use this stupidity to their advantage and go along with a ban that actually makes gun ownership less restrictive.

Among many other line items, I propose these five to start:

1. No civilian ownership of artillery over 155mm in caliber.
2. Cyclic rate of fire of any civilian-legal weapon shall not exceed that of the minigun.
3. Gatling-style guns shall not have more than six barrels (curio pieces excepted).
4. M1A1 tanks are totally banned from civilian ownership, though M-60 and earlier models can be purchased by any non-felon so long as they agree to drive a Prius to counteract the poor mileage of the tank.
5. Anyone possessing a suppressed weapon must carry a bell or horn on their person to warn others when they intend to fire.

[DSUrocks07]

The libs just want to exploit the opportunity to get some sort of legislation passed so they can thump their chests. The funny thing is, most of these libs don't know dick about guns. The NRA should use this stupidity to their advantage and go along with a ban that actually makes gun ownership less restrictive.

Among many other line items, I propose these five to start:

1. No civilian ownership of artillery over 155mm in caliber.
2. Cyclic rate of fire of any civilian-legal weapon shall not exceed that of the minigun.
3. Gatling-style guns shall not have more than six barrels (curio pieces excepted).
4. M1A1 tanks are totally banned from civilian ownership, though M-60 and earlier models can be purchased by any non-felon so long as they agree to drive a Prius to counteract the poor mileage of the tank.
5. Anyone possessing a suppressed weapon must carry a bell or horn on their person to warn others when they intend to fire.

Don't forget about raise the tax on tank fuel, got that whole fiscal cliff thingy to worry about.

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[Gil Dobie]

Booze was banned, but in 2009, 181 children 14 and under, were killed by drunk drivers. Do you ban booze, or automobiles, as 1314 children under 14 were killed in traffic accidents. link

[BDKJMU]

Extremists always want to ban things when tragedies happen. The Simpsons banned guns and guess what happened? ALIEN INVASION. I have no problem with someone owning a rifle, shotgun or a handgun. But assault rifles aren't necessary of the weekend warrior at the gun range. We need reform, you can own a gun but there are certain guns that don't need to be in the publics hand, like an Uzi.

Assault rifles are already banned without a federal license.

[HI54UNI]

Among many other line items, I propose these five to start:

1. No civilian ownership of artillery over 155mm in caliber.
4. M1A1 tanks are totally banned from civilian ownership,

You're dead to me. Damn liberal ass clown.

[DSUrocks07]

The fact that this:



uses the same ammo as this:



Yet people want to ban the second because "it's scary" is laughable.

[clenz]

As implied earlier, gun and ammo sales are about to shoot through the roof.

ABOUT TO???

They skyrocketed in early November, and will reach a zenith in the next week or two...

The store I work in sold close to 80k in the last two days in hand guns alone, plus ammo, rifles, and shot guns. The guys in the gun department literally can't keep up with people wanting to buy right now

We are one of the smallest stores in the compliant. Some stores likely sold 4 or5 times what we did the last two days

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[Ibanez]

Extremists always want to ban things when tragedies happen. The Simpsons banned guns and guess what happened? ALIEN INVASION. I have no problem with someone owning a rifle, shotgun or a handgun. But assault rifles aren't necessary of the weekend warrior at the gun range. We need reform, you can own a gun but there are certain guns that don't need to be in the publics hand, like an Uzi.

So, how would you craft such a ban...based on caliber, size, look???

You are starting down a slippery slope...

I don't know. But why do you, living in the 'burbs need an arsenal?

[89Hen]

How many people died in the Chinese knife attack? Anyone trying to remotely compare that is short a chromosome.

The spate of stabbings began in March of that year, when a man in Fujian province went on a slashing spree outside a primary school, killing 8 and injuring 5. The attacker was a jobless doctor who reportedly was venting frustration after a failed romantic relationship. Over the next two months, four similar incidents took place in southern and inland China, leaving more than eight primary and kindergarten students dead and 57 injured. The timing of the four incidents suggested the possibility of a “copycat” phenomena, in which criminals mimic sensational incidents after learning of them from media. The stabbing spree alarmed government authorities, who enhanced security at schools; a Chinese regulation now also requires people to register with their national identity cards when purchasing large knives.

20 > 8 but is this a dick measuring contest?

[biobengal]

I'm of the opinion that reasonable restrictions should be placed on guns, perhaps to include more education to reduce accidental deaths, restrictions on access for mentally ill citizens and even and overall reduction in the number of guns. I looked at the issue of # guns with data from the Guardian. To my surprise, I found no relationship between the number of guns (per 100 people; USA highest) and the number of firearm homicides (top graph). Further, having more guns doesn't appear to lead to more gun homicides as a percent of the total number of homicides (bottom graph). One last thing, more guns does contribute to more accidental gun deaths. One potential confounding factor is overall societal affluence, which tends to be correlated with the number of guns.

FYI, information was acquired from the Guardian Data Blog.

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[Wedgebuster]

The fact that this:



uses the same ammo as this:



Yet people want to ban the second because "it's scary" is laughable.

Bingo!
That is the point, exactly. Mini 14 about to find popularity all over again.

[Ibanez]

[93henfan]

Going to place my order for a Colt LE6920 tonight. Hope there are still some left.

[grizzaholic]

I'm of the opinion that reasonable restrictions should be placed on guns, perhaps to include more education to reduce accidental deaths, restrictions on access for mentally ill citizens and even and overall reduction in the number of guns. I looked at the issue of # guns with data from the Guardian. To my surprise, I found no relationship between the number of guns (per 100 people; USA highest) and the number of firearm homicides (top graph). Further, having more guns doesn't appear to lead to more gun homicides as a percent of the total number of homicides (bottom graph). One last thing, more guns does contribute to more accidental gun deaths. One potential confounding factor is overall societal affluence, which tends to be correlated with the number of guns.

FYI, information was acquired from the Guardian Data Blog.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Those aren't very good groups.

[Col Hogan]

So, how would you craft such a ban...based on caliber, size, look???

You are starting down a slippery slope...

I don't know. But why do you, living in the 'burbs need an arsenal?

Why do you feel the need to judge what a free person wants to legally possess...and what do you qualify as "an arsenal"...

[Ibanez]

I don't know. But why do you, living in the 'burbs need an arsenal?

Why do you feel the need to judge what a free person wants to legally possess...and what do you qualify as "an arsenal"...

I'm not for a ban on guns. However, the original intent on "right to bear arms" was due to the dangers of Indian attacks, hunting for necessity and the British army taking/banning weapons. In 1776 it was life and death. Times have changed, our attitudes and world has changes. Our laws must change. Changing a law isn't always a bad thing. Our constitution is an evolving document.

I don't own guns but I don't understand/see the point of having multiple handguns, rifles, shotguns, etc... I like target shooting and all but does one person need 5, 6, 7, 10 guns?

And I understand that the shooters in Portland and Newtown stole their weapons. The guy in Colorado legally procured them. It's not a slippery slope to legislate gun control and promote responsible ownership. However, the family must be responsible. If you have a child that has violent outbursts and a history of mental illness, it is stupid to own guns and train him to use it.

[Ibanez]

I don't know. But why do you, living in the 'burbs need an arsenal?

Why do you feel the need to judge what a free person wants to legally possess...and what do you qualify as "an arsenal"...

Why do you need a gun? Do you truly NEED it? Is your quality of life diminished without a firearm?


Or is it because you have the freedom to own a gun?

[bluehenbillk]

Really? 11 year olds in MN can have a firearm???

[Ibanez]

Really? 11 year olds in MN can have a firearm???

Only if they are responsible.

[93henfan]

Really? 11 year olds in MN can have a firearm???

Only if they are responsible.

Your uniformed reactions are exactly what Dailymail UK was hoping for when they threw out that supposed "factoid".

If you bother to go beyond the factoid and actually use The Google, it would have taken you 15 seconds to get to the below link and see that the certificate mentioned is for firearms safety which will allow an 11 year old to obtain an apprentice hunter license so they can hunt with their parent or guardian. This is what we need in this country: responsible gun ownership and operation. Yet, you guys give the Pavlovian response the media wants from you. Congrats, salivating canines.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/firearms/index.html

[Ibanez]

Only if they are responsible.

Your uniformed reactions are exactly what Dailymail UK was hoping for when they threw out that supposed "factoid".

If you bother to go beyond the factoid and actually use The Google, it would have taken you 15 seconds to get to the below link and see that the certificate mentioned is for firearms safety which will allow an 11 year old to obtain an apprentice hunter license so they can hunt with their parent or guardian. This is what we need in this country: responsible gun ownership and operation. Yet, you guys give the Pavlovian response the media wants from you. Congrats, salivating canines.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/firearms/index.html

I don't think anyone really believes that 11 year olds can buy a gun. Isn't 18 or 21 the normal ages? However, the numbers are interesting.

Btw, i'm not for banning all guns. Just reforming and controlling the sales as well as education. You can't prevent every catastrophe but as I said in other threads, people with mentally ill persons living with them, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT HAVE DISPLAYED VIOLENCE AND UNPREDICTABLE OUTBURSTS, should be wise and not own a weapon. You can't legislate common sense. I agree with you on responsible gun ownership and operation.