Lois Lerner E-Mails

[Skjellyfetti]

Remember when the White House "lost" 5,000,000 emails during the federal prosecutors investigation...


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080116/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[SDHornet]

Right on queue with a “Bush did it too” example. Who saw this coming?

A couple of things come to mind: 1) that was 2003, so the Fed hasn’t improved its technological policies and procedures to fix this? Skocker. And 2) given the incompetence of the Fed to address issue 1, let’s give more responsibility to the Fed (healthcare, auto manufacturing, etc); what could possibly go wrong?

[OL FU]

Remember when the White House "lost" 5,000,000 emails during the federal prosecutors investigation...


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080116/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where is citdog. It is time for a new government.









Not necessarily the one that citdog would prefer though

[GannonFan]

Remember when the White House "lost" 5,000,000 emails during the federal prosecutors investigation...


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080116/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a good thing no one on the left got upset about that back then like folks on the right are getting now with the Lerner e-mails. What was that investigation for, part of the Libby case with the CIA outing? Yup, never remember anyone getting upset over that investigation.

[CID1990]

Remember when the White House "lost" 5,000,000 emails during the federal prosecutors investigation...


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080116/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's a good thing no one on the left got upset about that back then like folks on the right are getting now with the Lerner e-mails. What was that investigation for, part of the Libby case with the CIA outing? Yup, never remember anyone getting upset over that investigation.

Nah- I think it was about a presidential administration doing what every administration does- firing the last guy's Federal prosecutors and installing your own. The left was totally nonplussed about that one, too.

Totally the same thing, too- using the IRS as a political baseball bat, vs. the political spoils system

[travelinman67]

One more reason to abolish the IRS: Agency managed by lying criminals...

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/i ... 08044.html

Congressional focus should remain on locating and preserving evidence for a future prosecution once the democrat scum, unabashed crooks Obama and Holder are removed from office.

[travelinman67]

Another administration douchebag...

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/ ... apologies/

[travelinman67]

Here a crash, there a crash, everywhere a crash, crash...

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/22/irs-c ... ter-crash/

[CitadelGrad]

Remember when the White House "lost" 5,000,000 emails during the federal prosecutors investigation...


http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20080116/index.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Remember when you weren't a cvnt? Neither do I.

[travelinman67]

An evening with Issa...

http://mobile.wnd.com/2014/06/irs-chief ... d-as-liar/

[travelinman67]

Upon reports of Lerner's career pattern harassing conservative groups and Republican candidates, Issa expands email subpoena to 28 years!!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/06 ... er-emails/

[travelinman67]

House bill offers $1m for lost emails, cuts IRS pay 20% until emails found...

.http://thehill.com/policy/finance/21066 ... irs-emails

[OL FU]

Whether this is a scandal or just a crime by mid-level IRS employees matters not. The IRS admitted the targeting, the person that did the targeting has taken the fifth, there are emails confirming suspicious conversations on the targeting with higher level employees at the IRS and then emails missing. Under the assumption that the White House is not involved in the least and with polls showing that 70% of the American people think the IRS purposely destroyed the emails and considering that the IRS is the one agency in American that absolutely cannot show partisanship, I am disturbed and even mad that the President doesn't see it is in his best interest to re-establish a smidgeon, to borrow his word, of credibility with the American people to find out what the truth is (and hopefully it is simply that stupid IRS employees broke the law).

I can separate my disagreements on policy with a politician, but I can't forgive someone who blatantly ignores a simple, albeit painful, act in the best interest of country by restoring some credibility to the most intrusive agency in the country. It is simple. Have a meaningful investigation and let's get this settled.

[CitadelGrad]

Whether this is a scandal or just a crime by mid-level IRS employees matters not. The IRS admitted the targeting, the person that did the targeting has taken the fifth, there are emails confirming suspicious conversations on the targeting with higher level employees at the IRS and then emails missing. Under the assumption that the White House is not involved in the least and with polls showing that 70% of the American people think the IRS purposely destroyed the emails and considering that the IRS is the one agency in American that absolutely cannot show partisanship, I am disturbed and even mad that the President doesn't see it is in his best interest to re-establish a smidgeon, to borrow his word, of credibility with the American people to find out what the truth is (and hopefully it is simply that stupid IRS employees broke the law).

I can separate my disagreements on policy with a politician, but I can't forgive someone who blatantly ignores a simple, albeit painful, act in the best interest of country by restoring some credibility to the most intrusive agency in the country. It is simple. Have a meaningful investigation and let's get this settled.

Has it occurred to you that Obama has no respect and even disdain for the rule of law? There is plenty of evidence aside from the IRS scandal that this is true.

He is purely an ideological and political animal. Anything that benefits him is legitimate, in his view. Those who oppose him are malevolent and worthy only of contempt.

Anyway, it should be clear that this is more than just some mid-level IRS employees going off the reservation. The hostility and obstruction displayed by Lerner and Koskinen leave no doubt. If there is nothing to cover up, then why is there a cover-up and invocation of the 5th Amendment?

[OL FU]

Whether this is a scandal or just a crime by mid-level IRS employees matters not. The IRS admitted the targeting, the person that did the targeting has taken the fifth, there are emails confirming suspicious conversations on the targeting with higher level employees at the IRS and then emails missing. Under the assumption that the White House is not involved in the least and with polls showing that 70% of the American people think the IRS purposely destroyed the emails and considering that the IRS is the one agency in American that absolutely cannot show partisanship, I am disturbed and even mad that the President doesn't see it is in his best interest to re-establish a smidgeon, to borrow his word, of credibility with the American people to find out what the truth is (and hopefully it is simply that stupid IRS employees broke the law).

I can separate my disagreements on policy with a politician, but I can't forgive someone who blatantly ignores a simple, albeit painful, act in the best interest of country by restoring some credibility to the most intrusive agency in the country. It is simple. Have a meaningful investigation and let's get this settled.

Has it occurred to you that Obama has no respect and even disdain for the rule of law? There is plenty of evidence aside from the IRS scandal that this is true.

He is purely an ideological and political animal. Anything that benefits him is legitimate, in his view. Those who oppose him are malevolent and worthy only of contempt.

Anyway, it should be clear that this is more than just some mid-level IRS employees going off the reservation. The hostility and obstruction displayed by Lerner and Koskinen leave no doubt. If there is nothing to cover up, then why is there a cover-up and invocation of the 5th Amendment?

I didn't say it in the post, but the most promised most transparent president has, from day one, been one of the most obviously political ones so, at this point, nothing surprises me from our President. Honestly, right now they appear to be hunkered down for trench warfare and so they will do whatever it takes, whether through the pen, the telephone or lying through their teeth.

What has occurred to me is that it is simply idiotic for people no matter their political affiliations not to demand an investigation unless they are simply more interested in their personal or political situations and affiliations or the ability to say "We're right and You're wrong".

The other obvious thing is that they simply at this point do not care about their perception with the American people. It is almost as if agreeing to an investigation would be an admission to a crime (which it wouldn't be) or admitting to defeat. That is something to be very concerned about.

[kalm]

Has it occurred to you that Obama has no respect and even disdain for the rule of law? There is plenty of evidence aside from the IRS scandal that this is true.

He is purely an ideological and political animal. Anything that benefits him is legitimate, in his view. Those who oppose him are malevolent and worthy only of contempt.

Anyway, it should be clear that this is more than just some mid-level IRS employees going off the reservation. The hostility and obstruction displayed by Lerner and Koskinen leave no doubt. If there is nothing to cover up, then why is there a cover-up and invocation of the 5th Amendment?

I didn't say it in the post, but the most promised most transparent president has, from day one, been one of the most obviously political ones so, at this point, nothing surprises me from our President. Honestly, right now they appear to be hunkered down for trench warfare and so they will do whatever it takes, whether through the pen, the telephone or lying through their teeth.

What has occurred to me is that it is simply idiotic for people no matter their political affiliations not to demand an investigation unless they are simply more interested in their personal or political situations and affiliations or the ability to say "We're right and You're wrong".

The other obvious thing is that they simply at this point do not care about their perception with the American people. It is almost as if agreeing to an investigation would be an admission to a crime (which it wouldn't be) or admitting to defeat. That is something to be very concerned about.

There's a shitload of investigation going on.

Here's a solid article on the situation.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphilli ... ng-emails/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[OL FU]

I didn't say it in the post, but the most promised most transparent president has, from day one, been one of the most obviously political ones so, at this point, nothing surprises me from our President. Honestly, right now they appear to be hunkered down for trench warfare and so they will do whatever it takes, whether through the pen, the telephone or lying through their teeth.

What has occurred to me is that it is simply idiotic for people no matter their political affiliations not to demand an investigation unless they are simply more interested in their personal or political situations and affiliations or the ability to say "We're right and You're wrong".

The other obvious thing is that they simply at this point do not care about their perception with the American people. It is almost as if agreeing to an investigation would be an admission to a crime (which it wouldn't be) or admitting to defeat. That is something to be very concerned about.

There's a shitload of investigation going on.

Here's a solid article on the situation.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphilli ... ng-emails/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Maybe I read it too fast, but I didn't see a whole lot of investigations going on. I saw a recap of the situation and the mention of some investigations. The problem here is with the nature of the issue. As I said before and if I didn't say I will say now, I don't think that the problem is a white house scandal. May end up that way but I don't see the evidence now. But the problem is one where an agency of the US government seems to have acted in a politically partisan way. There fore the investigation needs not only to be non-partisan, it needs the appearance of being non-partisan.

I hope you are right that they are doing all they can. But unless it looks like a non-partisan reviewed it, most won't believe it. And the administration has brought a lot of that on themselves.

[HI54UNI]

Did she target a sitting Republican senator that is on the tax law writing Senate Finance committee? Or was it just a coincidence?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /11371527/

[kalm]

Did she target a sitting Republican senator that is on the tax law writing Senate Finance committee?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /11371527/

Old news, and no.

[OL FU]

Did she target a sitting Republican senator that is on the tax law writing Senate Finance committee?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /11371527/

Old news, and no.

You must have inside information

I realize a jury can't take this into consideration but we as rational and reasonable outsiders can wonder why she took the fifth?

[CID1990]

Old news, and no.

You must have inside information

I realize a jury can't take this into consideration but we as rational and reasonable outsiders can wonder why she took the fifth?

you can't argue this stuff with flacks FU

they place politics and ideology over all else

wait until a Republican does it and then you'll have a captive audience

(but you'll lose the other side's flacks)

[Baldy]

Did she target a sitting Republican senator that is on the tax law writing Senate Finance committee?

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/ ... /11371527/

Old news, and no.

Really? Link?

[kalm]

You must have inside information

I realize a jury can't take this into consideration but we as rational and reasonable outsiders can wonder why she took the fifth?

you can't argue this stuff with flacks FU

they place politics and ideology over all else

wait until a Republican does it and then you'll have a captive audience

(but you'll lose the other side's flacks)

Said the flack.

The story is a couple days old. Lerner inquired about Grassly, was told no, and dropped the matter. Does it suggest partisanship on her behalf? Perhaps. But labeling it as "targeting a US senator is bit menacing.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/l ... 08322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[CID1990]

you can't argue this stuff with flacks FU

they place politics and ideology over all else

wait until a Republican does it and then you'll have a captive audience

(but you'll lose the other side's flacks)

Said the flack.

The story is a couple days old. Lerner inquired about Grassly, was told no, and dropped the matter. Does it suggest partisanship on her behalf? Perhaps. But labeling it as "targeting a US senator is bit menacing.

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/l ... 08322.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hope this never happens again, but if any government agency like the IRS ever does this you will find me outraged about it regardless of who is sitting in the White House.

I don't see any evidence that leads to the WH in this anyway, at least not now. But whoever ordered or allowed this (along with the release of taxpayer and donor info in the recent case where the IRS admitted wrongdoing) needs to be prosecuted. Enough of the no consequences for bureaucrats bullshit

as for the Grassley thing

I think it would be a non issue if there was not already scrutiny on Lois Lerner to begin with.... see how that works?

[travelinman67]

Has it occurred to you that Obama has no respect and even disdain for the rule of law? There is plenty of evidence aside from the IRS scandal that this is true.

He is purely an ideological and political animal. Anything that benefits him is legitimate, in his view. Those who oppose him are malevolent and worthy only of contempt.

Anyway, it should be clear that this is more than just some mid-level IRS employees going off the reservation. The hostility and obstruction displayed by Lerner and Koskinen leave no doubt. If there is nothing to cover up, then why is there a cover-up and invocation of the 5th Amendment?

This.

Now the revelation the EPA is pulling the same "...my hard drive crashed." ploy in the Pebble Mine investigation.

When Obama's activity from 2003 on is reviewed, there is an ongoing pattern of disregard for rule of law. It was grossly apparent during the 2008 campaign, and the incidents have accelerated, one after another, during his Presidency.
From secret Oval Office healthcare industry deals (Daschle graff), to Fast and Furious gun running (coordinated with gun control Dems-Feinstein-who orchestrated media campaigns against "assault weapon" trafficking...when the offenders were being facilitated by our Justice Dept to fulfill the narrative.), to the blatantly racist decisions by AG Holder whose "blind eye" to black on white hate crimes discredits our nation's most fundamental principles...that justice be "blind", equal for all, to DHS's targeting of veterans and patriot groups, to his administration's fingerprints repeatedly being found on voter fraud schemes, to these most recent subversion of govt authority to target businesses and people due to their political beliefs or participation...

...Obama's inability to operate within the law is an established fact.

AG Holder will continue to run interference for the Obama criminal enterprise, so there will be no criminal investigations, much less prosecutions, until he leaves office.

A shameful chapter in our country's history.