Clinton e-mailgate

[travelinman67]

Just about to tell Jellydonut his rebuttal might gain traction were he to provide another denial from an unbiased news source like Huffpo, WAPO, Salon....

...then, he quotes "The Atlantic".





Look, Jelly...

...you could post a thousand denials-of-wrongdoing from Jesus, his disciples, everyman's Mother and Priest...

...and Hillary will still be a lying, untrustworthy, snake-oil salesperson.

Few people in recent history are more hated AND more loved than her. She's the quintessential polarizer. Her supporters would turn a blind eye to her faults regardless the severity, and her denigrators WILL NEVER forgive her trespasses...

...I.e. Save your breath.

Wow.

You think my post was defending Hillary? You're absolutely batshit.

The Atlantic article is dismissive of her action and even suggests the email records were safer at her home than on a govt. server.

Like Klam, you have become blind to your bias.

[travelinman67]

"Huh! Now that I'm CEO of the largest trading firm on the planet, how am I
going to communicate? I better swing by Best Buy and pick up a new Hewlett-Packard
and have Billy come over and set me up an email server!"




"...then tomorrow, I'll shred all those damn CDO memos."

[kalm]

Klam...when you're incapable of recognizing press bias, you're in over your head.

[Ivytalk]

Bill Clinton said this incident will "blow over." He should know.

[ASUG8]

I think dawg is off his meds. Ky's article was clearly not in defense of Hil.


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXWTdTnhebs[/youtube]

[dbackjon]

Wow.

You think my post was defending Hillary? You're absolutely batshit.

The Atlantic article is dismissive of her action and even suggests the email records were safer at her home than on a govt. server.

Like Klam, you have become blind to your bias.

Probably True...

[Ivytalk]

"Huh! Now that I'm CEO of the largest trading firm on the planet, how am I
going to communicate? I better swing by Best Buy and pick up a new Hewlett-Packard
and have Billy come over and set me up an email server!"




"...then tomorrow, I'll shred all those damn CDO memos."

My hero!

[kalm]

"Huh! Now that I'm CEO of the largest trading firm on the planet, how am I
going to communicate? I better swing by Best Buy and pick up a new Hewlett-Packard
and have Billy come over and set me up an email server!"




"...then tomorrow, I'll shred all those damn CDO memos."

My hero!

You, Holder, and Obama...

Punk in a suit.

[Ivytalk]

My hero!

You, Holder, and Obama...

Punk in a suit.

He's come a long way from the streets of Brooklyn. And he can stick the J. So there.

[Ibanez]

The Atlantic article is dismissive of her action and even suggests the email records were safer at her home than on a govt. server.

Like Klam, you have become blind to your bias.

Probably True...

Not likely. As I've said in the Lois Lerner email threads, the government uses RAID array strategies to back up files and such. That means that every file, email, memo, etc.. is backed up in multiple times in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on at home.

[Ibanez]

Here's my take, as if any of you care:

Hillary using a personal email address for official gov't business isn't a good business practice. I don't conduct business through my personal email (though I wish I did since it's down right now). Her server and domain is very weird, but not illegal. The security was (is) probably good, but as long as she complies with security regulations and the 1974 regulation, she's in the clear. She didn't commit a crime, but she didn't use the best business practices.

[Grizalltheway]

Probably True...

Not likely. As I've said in the Lois Lerner email threads, the government uses RAID array strategies to back up files and such. That means that every file, email, memo, etc.. is backed up in multiple times in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on at home.

What does that have to do with security, or lack thereof?

[Ibanez]

Not likely. As I've said in the Lois Lerner email threads, the government uses RAID array strategies to back up files and such. That means that every file, email, memo, etc.. is backed up in multiple times in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on at home.

What does that have to do with security, or lack thereof?

Nothing directly. If a server goes down, you're chances of losing data are minimal since data is backed up in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on (though I guess with her money and position, it's not impossible. The electric bill would be enormous). The Gov't gets a lot of flak for things, but they actually do a good job in the cyber security realm.

[travelinman67]

Clinton State Department fired Ambassador caught using private email for State Department correspondance...

EDIT: Add link to article...http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cli ... 76183.html

Clinton State Department Ousted Ambassador Using Private Email

11:06 AM, MAR 5, 2015 •
BY MARK HEMINGWAY

In 2012, U.S. Ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration abruptly stepped down from his post. According to a Foreign Policy report by Josh Rogin (now a reporter for Bloomberg), Gration was the subject of a whithering evaluation from the State Department:
The impending release of a highly critical report by the State Department’s Inspector General’s office prompted the sudden resignation Friday of U.S. Ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration, according to administration and congressional sources.The report was described to The Cable by multiple people briefed on its contents as one of the worst reviews of an ambassador’s performance written by the IG’s staff in several years.
While Gration was fired for a myriad of reasons, one passage of the damning report leaps out in light of recent events:
Very soon after the Ambassador’s arrival in May 2011, he broadcast his lack of confidence in the information management staff. Because the information management office could not change the Department’s policy for handling Sensitive But Unclassified material, he assumed charge of the mission’s information management operations. He ordered a commercial Internet connection installed in his embassy office bathroom so he could work there on a laptop not connected to the Department email system. He drafted and distributed a mission policy authorizing himself and other mission personnel to use commercial email for daily communication of official government business.
During the inspection, the Ambassador continued to use commercial email for official government business. The Department email system provides automatic security, record-keeping, and backup functions as required. The Ambassador’s requirements for use of commercial email in the office and his flouting of direct instructions to adhere to Department policy have placed the information management staff in a conundrum: balancing the desire to be responsive to their mission leader and the need to adhere to Department regulations and government information security standards.

In other words, State Department policy was very clear. Using a private email outside the State Department's secure system was completely unacceptable. If this applied to ambassadors, one would think it was sensible policy for the Secretary of State as well. 

[Ibanez]

Clinton State Department fired Ambassador caught using private email for State Department correspondance...

Clinton State Department Ousted Ambassador Using Private Email

11:06 AM, MAR 5, 2015 •
BY MARK HEMINGWAY

In 2012, U.S. Ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration abruptly stepped down from his post. According to a Foreign Policy report by Josh Rogin (now a reporter for Bloomberg), Gration was the subject of a whithering evaluation from the State Department:
The impending release of a highly critical report by the State Department’s Inspector General’s office prompted the sudden resignation Friday of U.S. Ambassador to Kenya Scott Gration, according to administration and congressional sources.The report was described to The Cable by multiple people briefed on its contents as one of the worst reviews of an ambassador’s performance written by the IG’s staff in several years.
While Gration was fired for a myriad of reasons, one passage of the damning report leaps out in light of recent events:
Very soon after the Ambassador’s arrival in May 2011, he broadcast his lack of confidence in the information management staff. Because the information management office could not change the Department’s policy for handling Sensitive But Unclassified material, he assumed charge of the mission’s information management operations. He ordered a commercial Internet connection installed in his embassy office bathroom so he could work there on a laptop not connected to the Department email system. He drafted and distributed a mission policy authorizing himself and other mission personnel to use commercial email for daily communication of official government business.
During the inspection, the Ambassador continued to use commercial email for official government business. The Department email system provides automatic security, record-keeping, and backup functions as required. The Ambassador’s requirements for use of commercial email in the office and his flouting of direct instructions to adhere to Department policy have placed the information management staff in a conundrum: balancing the desire to be responsive to their mission leader and the need to adhere to Department regulations and government information security standards.

In other words, State Department policy was very clear. Using a private email outside the State Department's secure system was completely unacceptable. If this applied to ambassadors, one would think it was sensible policy for the Secretary of State as well. 

What's the link to that article?


And I agree, if the State Department said it's bad for one person, than it's bad for all.

[CID1990]

What does that have to do with security, or lack thereof?

Nothing directly. If a server goes down, you're chances of losing data are minimal since data is backed up in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on (though I guess with her money and position, it's not impossible. The electric bill would be enormous). The Gov't gets a lot of flak for things, but they actually do a good job in the cyber security realm.

You've got the mechanics of it right

But Hillary never had a state.gov address. Ever. And she was the SecState.

I wonder if her ClintiusSpecialisElitist.com server was SIPR? Because if you think she didn't discuss classified for 4 years at State then I have some real estate in Whitewater to sell you

[Ibanez]

Nothing directly. If a server goes down, you're chances of losing data are minimal since data is backed up in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on (though I guess with her money and position, it's not impossible. The electric bill would be enormous). The Gov't gets a lot of flak for things, but they actually do a good job in the cyber security realm.

You've got the mechanics of it right

But Hillary never had a state.gov address. Ever. And she was the SecState.

I wonder if her ClintiusSpecialisElitist.com server was SIPR? Because if you think she didn't discuss classified for 4 years at State then I have some real estate in Whitewater to sell you

I would hope I have the mechanics of RAID storage right, I only procured, installed and updated them for 5 years.
She would have never had access to SIPR, or NIPR for that matter. That just wouldn't be possible.

See, I spend 4 years out of C4i and I forget about SIPR.

[travelinman67]

Not likely. As I've said in the Lois Lerner email threads, the government uses RAID array strategies to back up files and such. That means that every file, email, memo, etc.. is backed up in multiple times in multiple places. I doubt HRC had that going on at home.

What does that have to do with security, or lack thereof?

From: Secretary Hillary R. Clinton, State Department

To: Roger P. Epham, Lead Strategist, Korean Peninsula Accord

Mr. Epham;
I am disappointed to hear about the breakdown in progress as I had confidence our subjugation plan would be embraced by those slippery slopes. I had so looked forward to opening DPRK up to the luxury of Xfinity, Netflix, and a Kohls in every neighborhood.
Absent any progress, I see no other recourse than to implement the "defense-chaos" plan of lobbing a tactical nuclear device 5km over the DMZ, then blaming DPRK of a nuclear mishap.
I cannot overemphasize the importance of maintaining records of this decision for many historical reasons, as well as international relevance and Presidential deniability.
Please keep John and Valerie in the loop.

As Sandy would often say, "Bombs away."

Regards,
H.H.H.

Her Highness Hillary

"Damn it!! What do you mean by, "The server died." I just paid nine-hundred dollars for that! It better not be bad. I suppose we never got the back up working, did we?"

[CID1990]

You've got the mechanics of it right

But Hillary never had a state.gov address. Ever. And she was the SecState.

I wonder if her ClintiusSpecialisElitist.com server was SIPR? Because if you think she didn't discuss classified for 4 years at State then I have some real estate in Whitewater to sell you

I would hope I have the mechanics of RAID storage right, I only procured, installed and updated them for 5 years.
She would have never had access to SIPR, or NIPR for that matter. That just wouldn't be possible.

See, I spend 4 years out of C4i and I forget about SIPR.

That's precisely what I am getting at.

Do you think she never discussed classified in this non classified server?
That's a rhetorical question, btw.

[Ibanez]

I would hope I have the mechanics of RAID storage right, I only procured, installed and updated them for 5 years.
She would have never had access to SIPR, or NIPR for that matter. That just wouldn't be possible.

See, I spend 4 years out of C4i and I forget about SIPR.

That's precisely what I am getting at.

Do you think she never discussed classified in this non classified server?
That's a rhetorical question, btw.

Agreed. Ive worked at USMC & OpNav and all the steps we had to do to make a facility secure, including the physical barriers, were intense. I'm sure her server was Never enclosed in a cage, with swipe access and 24/7 security. Essentially a SCIFF.

[CAA Flagship]

Just about to tell Jellydonut his rebuttal might gain traction were he to provide another denial from an unbiased news source like Huffpo, WAPO, Salon....

...then, he quotes "The Atlantic".





Look, Jelly...

...you could post a thousand denials-of-wrongdoing from Jesus, his disciples, everyman's Mother and Priest...

...and Hillary will still be a lying, untrustworthy, snake-oil salesperson.

Few people in recent history are more hated AND more loved than her. She's the quintessential polarizer. Her supporters would turn a blind eye to her faults regardless the severity, and her denigrators WILL NEVER forgive her trespasses...

...I.e. Save your breath.

What's wrong with the Atlantic? No wait…forget it. You're explanation would be painfully embarrassing even for you.

You do realize that article supported HIlary suspicions in this, right?

But I agree regarding Hilary's trust-worthiness.

*Your

Dammit kalmy, I'm gonna stop reading your crap if you don't tighten up.

[Grizalltheway]

What's wrong with the Atlantic? No wait…forget it. You're explanation would be painfully embarrassing even for you.

You do realize that article supported HIlary suspicions in this, right?

But I agree regarding Hilary's trust-worthiness.

if you don't tighten up.

I bet you'd like that.

[Baldy]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DCwmYHr-_M[/youtube]

Gonna see this ALOT over the next couple of years...if she lasts that long.

[andy7171]

Hhmmmm. Maybe that email was for real. The address was
66Nshaved@theoldgraylady.gov

[ASUG8]

Hhmmmm. Maybe that email was for real. The address was
66Nshaved@theoldgraylady.gov

I threw up a little.