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[CID1990]

Actually, we know what third party reporters said that Jesus' disciples say he said, about 100 or so years after the fact.

That's how Geo Washington wound up cutting down cherry trees

I trust word of mouth from my uncle Billy (with the IQ of 80 who still eats boogers at age 72) more

its as likely that he said "eat the poor"

[Chizzang]

Actually, we know what third party reporters said that Jesus' disciples say he said, about 100 or so years after the fact.

That's how Geo Washington wound up cutting down cherry trees

I trust word of mouth from my uncle Billy (with the IQ of 80 who still eats boogers at age 72) more

its as likely that he said "eat the poor"

Its alarming how many Christians actually think The Book is a moment by moment account in real time...
and not what it actually is ^ as you point out...

The New Testament Bible
has been written and re-written more times than damn near any other document on earth
and as an example, 325 years after the fact it was condensed and refined in such a manner as to even further itself from the actual documentation and "keep the fabulous parts"

Point being:
To create a God you must refine and distill the tale...

[AZGrizFan]

Actually, we know what third party reporters said that Jesus' disciples say he said, about 100 or so years after the fact.

That's how Geo Washington wound up cutting down cherry trees

I trust word of mouth from my uncle Billy (with the IQ of 80 who still eats boogers at age 72) more

its as likely that he said "eat the poor"

Its alarming how many Christians actually think The Book is a moment by moment account in real time...
and not what it actually is ^ as you point out...

The New Testament Bible
has been written and re-written more times than damn near any other document on earth
and as an example, 325 years after the fact it was condensed and refined in such a manner as to even further itself from the actual documentation and "keep the fabulous parts"

Point being:
To create a God you must refine and distill the tale...

What's alarming is people like you making blanket statements like that. I've never heard a single Christian state that they think it's a moment-by-moment account in real time....where do you HEAR this crap?

[Chizzang]

Its alarming how many Christians actually think The Book is a moment by moment account in real time...
and not what it actually is ^ as you point out...

The New Testament Bible
has been written and re-written more times than damn near any other document on earth
and as an example, 325 years after the fact it was condensed and refined in such a manner as to even further itself from the actual documentation and "keep the fabulous parts"

Point being:
To create a God you must refine and distill the tale...

What's alarming is people like you making blanket statements like that. I've never heard a single Christian state that they think it's a moment-by-moment account in real time....where do you HEAR this crap?

So what you're claiming is you don't know ANY fundamentalist Christians then...
Which would be strange because America is brimming with them
in FACT 59 percent of evangelical protestants agree that the Bible should be taken literally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... hristians/

[CAA Flagship]

Its alarming how many Christians actually think The Book is a moment by moment account in real time...
and not what it actually is ^ as you point out...

The New Testament Bible
has been written and re-written more times than damn near any other document on earth
and as an example, 325 years after the fact it was condensed and refined in such a manner as to even further itself from the actual documentation and "keep the fabulous parts"

Point being:
To create a God you must refine and distill the tale...

What's alarming is people like you making blanket statements like that. I've never heard a single Christian state that they think it's a moment-by-moment account in real time....where do you HEAR this crap?

From here:

[YoUDeeMan]

Blessed are the cheese makers.

[SeattleGriz]

Its alarming how many Christians actually think The Book is a moment by moment account in real time...
and not what it actually is ^ as you point out...

The New Testament Bible
has been written and re-written more times than damn near any other document on earth
and as an example, 325 years after the fact it was condensed and refined in such a manner as to even further itself from the actual documentation and "keep the fabulous parts"

Point being:
To create a God you must refine and distill the tale...

What's alarming is people like you making blanket statements like that. I've never heard a single Christian state that they think it's a moment-by-moment account in real time....where do you HEAR this crap?

You're wrecking his schtick Z! Knock it off.

[AZGrizFan]

What's alarming is people like you making blanket statements like that. I've never heard a single Christian state that they think it's a moment-by-moment account in real time....where do you HEAR this crap?

So what you're claiming is you don't know ANY fundamentalist Christians then...
Which would be strange because America is brimming with them
in FACT 59 percent of evangelical protestants agree that the Bible should be taken literally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... hristians/

What's "alarming" is that the number is down from 40% to 28% in the past 20 years and yet you paint it as if it's a large and growing percentage of the populace.

[SeattleGriz]

So what you're claiming is you don't know ANY fundamentalist Christians then...
Which would be strange because America is brimming with them
in FACT 59 percent of evangelical protestants agree that the Bible should be taken literally

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/mon ... hristians/

What's "alarming" is that the number is down from 40% to 28% in the past 20 years and yet you paint it as if it's a large and growing percentage of the populace.

I believe the phrase used is, "intellectual dishonesty".

Trying to pull the old Council of Nicea misinformation as well. tsk tsk

[Chizzang]

The only thing that's "intellectually dishonest"
is pretending that it's not just a book about Santa Claus for Adults
Which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in
is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Never mind that it has been re-written so many times
it would make the New England Patriots blush

There is NOTHING more intellectually Dishonest than American Christianity in all its glory

[CAA Flagship]

The only thing that's "intellectually dishonest"
is pretending that it's not just a book about Santa Claus for Adults
Which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in
is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Never mind that it has been re-written so many times
it would make the New England Patriots blush

There is NOTHING more intellectually Dishonest than American Christianity in all its glory

I was also brainwashed in school that art was important.

[Chizzang]

I was also brainwashed in school that art was important.

Did they promise you immortality..?
and that if you didn't believe Art was important you'd burn in hell for eternity..?



Art Hell
and How many people were killed during the bauhaus Art Movement..?

[CAA Flagship]

I was also brainwashed in school that art was important.

Did they promise you immortality..?
and that if you didn't believe Art was important you'd burn in hell for eternity..?

No. But they said it was mentally healthy.

[Chizzang]

Did they promise you immortality..?
and that if you didn't believe Art was important you'd burn in hell for eternity..?

No. But they said it was mentally healthy.

So many people were killed during the Bauhause movement..?

[AZGrizFan]

The only thing that's "intellectually dishonest"
is pretending that it's not just a book about Santa Claus for Adults
Which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in
is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Never mind that it has been re-written so many times
it would make the New England Patriots blush

There is NOTHING more intellectually Dishonest than American Christianity in all its glory

Yeah, right. Because NOBODY, EVER has been saved and converted to Christianity later in life. EVERY SINGLE religious person who believes in the bible was brainwashed as a child.

Dude.....the first rule, when you find yourself in a hole, is to STOP DIGGING.

Now give me your shovel.

[Chizzang]

The only thing that's "intellectually dishonest"
is pretending that it's not just a book about Santa Claus for Adults
Which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in
is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Never mind that it has been re-written so many times
it would make the New England Patriots blush

There is NOTHING more intellectually Dishonest than American Christianity in all its glory

Yeah, right. Because NOBODY, EVER has been saved and converted to Christianity later in life. EVERY SINGLE religious person who believes in the bible was brainwashed as a child.

Dude.....the first rule, when you find yourself in a hole, is to STOP DIGGING.

Now give me your shovel.

I was waiting for somebody dumb enough to say that... Thank you AZ (you always deliver)

Single digits of the Christian population are converted after the age of 21

[AZGrizFan]

Yeah, right. Because NOBODY, EVER has been saved and converted to Christianity later in life. EVERY SINGLE religious person who believes in the bible was brainwashed as a child.

Dude.....the first rule, when you find yourself in a hole, is to STOP DIGGING.

Now give me your shovel.

I was waiting for somebody dumb enough to say that... Thank you AZ (you always deliver)

Single digits of the Christian population are converted after the age of 21

YOU, my friend, are the one who made the blanket statement. Your own graph disputes your very statement. Well done.

[Chizzang]

I was waiting for somebody dumb enough to say that... Thank you AZ (you always deliver)

Single digits of the Christian population are converted after the age of 21

YOU, my friend, are the one who made the blanket statement. Your own graph disputes your very statement. Well done.

Please show how that graph disputes my statement (exactly)

[YoUDeeMan]

YOU, my friend, are the one who made the blanket statement. Your own graph disputes your very statement. Well done.

Please show how that graph disputes my statement (exactly)

Well, you stated that single digits convert after age 21...but that graph doesn't have a break point for 21. 14% are converted after age 15...so there might be some wiggle room on your over 21 and single digit conversion rate.

Besides that, I don't think many people are born at age 15 and above...and since there is also an 85% bracket from age 4-14, there is even more room for people to not be, "born" into their religion.

Then again, you have lately proven to be a little shoddy in the facts department...probably somewhere in the, oh...let's say 50% range.




























You're welcome.

[AZGrizFan]

YOU, my friend, are the one who made the blanket statement. Your own graph disputes your very statement. Well done.

Please show how that graph disputes my statement (exactly)

Are you serious?

which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Then you post a graph that shows 15% are converted after the age of 15 (which, by the way, I LOVE the fact the graph lumps 15-30 year olds into one group...

[Chizzang]

Please show how that graph disputes my statement (exactly)

Are you serious?

which by the way - the only reason ANYBODY even believes in is because they were brainwashed as children (period) The end

Then you post a graph that shows 15% are converted after the age of 15 (which, by the way, I LOVE the fact the graph lumps 15-30% into one group...

So you're going to nit-pick an overwhelmingly true statement that I made...
Because that is all you have
85% of Christians were brainwashed as children

Single digits convert after the age of 21 (still true)
and Santa Clause is real (until you turn 7)
and then you switch to Cosmic Santa

And YOU said that YOU believe in God because:
Its better to believe just in case its True and if its not true then "no harm no foul" so to speak

But don;t you think GOD the almighty creator of the Universe grand Omnipotent being
is smart enough to know why you believe and see that's its just a "Hedge Bet" by a banker
who's attempting to game the system...?

Can't god see your intent and motivation..?

Seriously AZ... Grow up

[AZGrizFan]

Are you serious?



Then you post a graph that shows 15% are converted after the age of 15 (which, by the way, I LOVE the fact the graph lumps 15-30% into one group...

So you're going to nit-pick an overwhelmingly true statement that I made...
Because that is all you have
85% of Christians were brainwashed as children

Single digits convert after the age of 21 (still true)
and Santa Clause is real (until you turn 7)
and then you switch to Cosmic Santa

And YOU said that YOU believe in God because:
Its better to believe just in case its True and if its not true then "no harm no foul" so to speak

But don;t you think GOD the almighty creator of the Universe grand Omnipotent being
is smart enough to know why you believe and see that's its just a "Hedge Bet" by a banker
who's attempting to game the system...?

Can't god see your intent and motivation..?

Seriously AZ... Grow up

If you didn't mean everybody, don't say it that way. Didn't your 4th grade teacher teach you never to speak in absolutes?

You can't prove from THAT graph that the "single digits after 21" is true at all.

And how do you know a) whether I believe in God or not and b) WHY I believe in God (if in fact, I do?)

[SeattleGriz]

The fact Cleets constantly steps on his own dick on the subject of Christianity speaks volumes.

Troll fail...yet again.

[Chizzang]

So you're going to nit-pick an overwhelmingly true statement that I made...
Because that is all you have
85% of Christians were brainwashed as children

Single digits convert after the age of 21 (still true)
and Santa Clause is real (until you turn 7)
and then you switch to Cosmic Santa

And YOU said that YOU believe in God because:
Its better to believe just in case its True and if its not true then "no harm no foul" so to speak

But don;t you think GOD the almighty creator of the Universe grand Omnipotent being
is smart enough to know why you believe and see that's its just a "Hedge Bet" by a banker
who's attempting to game the system...?

Can't god see your intent and motivation..?

Seriously AZ... Grow up

If you didn't mean everybody, don't say it that way. Didn't your 4th grade teacher teach you never to speak in absolutes?

You can't prove from THAT graph that the "single digits after 21" is true at all.

And how do you know a) whether I believe in God or not and b) WHY I believe in God (if in fact, I do?)

Because I'm taking you at your word... AZ
what you've actually said on this forum

Do you deny saying what I've claimed you said AZ..?

[SeattleGriz]

If you didn't mean everybody, don't say it that way. Didn't your 4th grade teacher teach you never to speak in absolutes?

You can't prove from THAT graph that the "single digits after 21" is true at all.

And how do you know a) whether I believe in God or not and b) WHY I believe in God (if in fact, I do?)

Because I'm taking you at your word... AZ
what you've actually said on this forum

Do you deny saying what I've claimed you said AZ..?

Is that like claiming to have read the Bible in its entirety on this board, only to say on AGS that you won't read that stupid book?

I've said it before though, your troll game on this subject is top notch!