And now... BeachGate!

[HI54UNI]

Not much for beaches so this is what happens

[dbackjon]

http://www.politico.com/states/new-jers ... ark-113192

Gov. Chris Christie joined his family at a state-owned retreat in Island Beach State Park on Saturday night, less than 24 hours after ordering the closure of all state parks and beaches because of the budget impasse in Trenton.

The governor addressed members of the Legislature about the stalemate on Saturday and then left the capital for the park, a spokesman confirmed Sunday morning. The governor later said he took a State Police helicopter to the park and back to Trenton again on Sunday, and said he plans to do the same Sunday evening.


What an arrogant prick.

[Grizalltheway]

Not much for beaches so this is what happens

That's a real redneck Riviera.

[Pwns]

A good rule of thumb...the less famous a beach is, typically the better it's going to be.

Example: North Florida has some damn fine beaches that blows the South Florida beaches out of the water, but of course people want to go to the place they saw on HGTV or MTV's Real World of Baywatch or whatever. As a result you stay at a place farther from the beach and end up with more crowds.

[93henfan]

A good rule of thumb...the less famous a beach is, typically the better it's going to be.

Example: North Florida has some damn fine beaches that blows the South Florida beaches out of the water, but of course people want to go to the place they saw on HGTV or MTV's Real World of Baywatch or whatever. As a result you stay at a place farther from the beach and end up with more crowds.

Hence why CluckU (RIP Chris) when he was still alive used to admonish me for naming secret spots in DE.

[Ibanez]

In NC it's mostly national seashore

No parking fees

No access fees

No white whale asshole governors sucking up oxygen (and casting 100 foot shadows)

https://www.nps.gov/caha/planyourvisit/fees.htm

From your link:

There is no entry fee for Cape Hatteras National Seashore.

[Ibanez]

A good rule of thumb...the less famous a beach is, typically the better it's going to be.

Example: North Florida has some damn fine beaches that blows the South Florida beaches out of the water, but of course people want to go to the place they saw on HGTV or MTV's Real World of Baywatch or whatever. As a result you stay at a place farther from the beach and end up with more crowds.

Hence why CluckU (RIP Chris) when he was still alive used to admonish me for naming secret spots in DE.

RIP? For reals or just RIP from the board ?

[BDKJMU]

Been to beaches ME, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, GA, AL, TX, CA, HI). Never do I recall paying to get on a beach. Now some of those states weren't summer months, but still. Paying to be able to access a beach sounds like some real commie, socialist shit right there..Why I live about 1 1/4 hr from the closet NJ beaches but have never been..

[Grizalltheway]

Been to beaches ME, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, GA, AL, TX, CA. Never do I recall paying to get on a beach. Now some of those states weren't summer months, but still. Paying to be able to access a beach sounds like some real commie, socialist shit right there..Why I live about 1 1/4 hr from the closet NJ beaches but have never been..

If conks had their way, every inch of shoreline in America would be sold off to highest bidder. And I'm sure those private owners would be happy to let you access it for free, right? You dumb fuck.

[BDKJMU]

Been to beaches ME, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, GA, AL, TX, CA. Never do I recall paying to get on a beach. Now some of those states weren't summer months, but still. Paying to be able to access a beach sounds like some real commie, socialist **** right there..Why I live about 1 1/4 hr from the closet NJ beaches but have never been..

If conks had their way, every inch of shoreline in America would be sold off to highest bidder. And I'm sure those private owners would be happy to let you access it for free, right? You dumb ****.

Wrong. Why are you libtards such drama queens?

[CAA Flagship]

Been to beaches ME, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, GA, AL, TX, CA. Never do I recall paying to get on a beach. Now some of those states weren't summer months, but still. Paying to be able to access a beach sounds like some real commie, socialist shit right there..Why I live about 1 1/4 hr from the closet NJ beaches but have never been..

As I have said many times, this makes no sense on the surface, but trust me, it is absolutely embraced from where I'm from. There is a 1 mile section of beach that only accepts weekly or seasonal passes. Adjacent to that section to the north, you can access with a daily, weekly, or seasonal pass. When you have the NY and Philly metro areas within a 1-1/2 hour drive, the locals don't have to deal with them since the city folk get the daily passes.

With lifeguards every 4 blocks, and beach cleaning every morning, why should the small number of residents (barrier island just 4 blocks wide) pay for that in taxes. Letting the users pay makes more sense.

Besides, it's only restricted from around 9am until around 4pm. Dawn and dusk are great times to spend on the beach and no passes are required then (swim at own risk).

[BDKJMU]

Been to beaches ME, DE, MD, VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, GA, AL, TX, CA. Never do I recall paying to get on a beach. Now some of those states weren't summer months, but still. Paying to be able to access a beach sounds like some real commie, socialist **** right there..Why I live about 1 1/4 hr from the closet NJ beaches but have never been..

As I have said many times, this makes no sense on the surface, but trust me, it is absolutely embraced from where I'm from. There is a 1 mile section of beach that only accepts weekly or seasonal passes. Adjacent to that section to the north, you can access with a daily, weekly, or seasonal pass. When you have the NY and Philly metro areas within a 1-1/2 hour drive, the locals don't have to deal with them since the city folk get the daily passes.

With lifeguards every 4 blocks, and beach cleaning every morning, why should the small number of residents (barrier island just 4 blocks wide) pay for that in taxes. Letting the users pay makes more sense.

Besides, it's only restricted from around 9am until around 4pm. Dawn and dusk are great times to spend on the beach and no passes are required then (swim at own risk).

Why? I also didn't mention that about 90% of the beaches I've been to in those 13 states (I forgot to add Hawaii) didn't have lifeguards and flags or ropes or whatever telling people where they can and can't swim. Swim at your own risk where you want, when you want, as it should be.

[Grizalltheway]

If conks had their way, every inch of shoreline in America would be sold off to highest bidder. And I'm sure those private owners would be happy to let you access it for free, right? You dumb ****.

Wrong. Why are you libtards such drama queens?

Says the guy who equated an access fee with communism.

[Ivytalk]

A good rule of thumb...the less famous a beach is, typically the better it's going to be.

Example: North Florida has some damn fine beaches that blows the South Florida beaches out of the water, but of course people want to go to the place they saw on HGTV or MTV's Real World of Baywatch or whatever. As a result you stay at a place farther from the beach and end up with more crowds.

Mmmm...Apalachicola

[CAA Flagship]

As I have said many times, this makes no sense on the surface, but trust me, it is absolutely embraced from where I'm from. There is a 1 mile section of beach that only accepts weekly or seasonal passes. Adjacent to that section to the north, you can access with a daily, weekly, or seasonal pass. When you have the NY and Philly metro areas within a 1-1/2 hour drive, the locals don't have to deal with them since the city folk get the daily passes.

With lifeguards every 4 blocks, and beach cleaning every morning, why should the small number of residents (barrier island just 4 blocks wide) pay for that in taxes. Letting the users pay makes more sense.

Besides, it's only restricted from around 9am until around 4pm. Dawn and dusk are great times to spend on the beach and no passes are required then (swim at own risk).

Why? I also didn't mention that about 90% of the beaches I've been to in those 13 states (I forgot to add Hawaii) didn't have lifeguards and flags or ropes or whatever telling people where they can and can't swim. Swim at your own risk where you want, when you want, as it should be.

"For every dollar spent to the lifeguard salary, the community gets tenfold in income back in tourism," Fischer said. "Families are told to flock to guarded beaches. Economically, it actually for the communities is wise to guard the beaches."

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/20 ... posts.html

Statistics from the U.S. Lifesaving Association, the national organization for beach lifeguards and open water rescuers, shows 2,694 rescues last year along New Jersey’s shoreline.

http://www.app.com/story/news/local/eat ... /30602597/

[CID1990]

In NC it's mostly national seashore

No parking fees

No access fees

No white whale asshole governors sucking up oxygen (and casting 100 foot shadows)

https://www.nps.gov/caha/planyourvisit/fees.htm

Those are to climb the lighthouses (fees help with upkeep) or pitch a tent for the night.

Here's the first line in that link:

There is no entry fee for Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Check the following table for costs of various services and activities within the park.

[kalm]

Wrong. Why are you libtards such drama queens?

Says the guy who equated an access fee with communism.

[CID1990]

https://www.nps.gov/caha/planyourvisit/fees.htm

Those are to climb the lighthouses (fees help with upkeep) or pitch a tent for the night.

Here's the first line in that link:

There is no entry fee for Cape Hatteras National Seashore. Check the following table for costs of various services and activities within the park.

BTW another great thing about the OBX is that on a large part of it, not only is it free, but you can take your 4x4 out on the beach and roll it over and kill yourself if you want to

Freeeeeedooooommmmmmm!

[BDKJMU]

Why? I also didn't mention that about 90% of the beaches I've been to in those 13 states (I forgot to add Hawaii) didn't have lifeguards and flags or ropes or whatever telling people where they can and can't swim. Swim at your own risk where you want, when you want, as it should be.

"For every dollar spent to the lifeguard salary, the community gets tenfold in income back in tourism," Fischer said. "Families are told to flock to guarded beaches. Economically, it actually for the communities is wise to guard the beaches."

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/20 ... posts.html

If that's true, then you'd think most beaches in the country would have lifeguards, when most (at least in those other states) don't..

[93henfan]

Sorry Flaggy. Rehoboth and Dewey Beaches have noteworthy, competition-winning beach patrols and daily beach cleaning, and again, no charge to get on the beach, and no sales tax when you go get pizza for lunch. Just face it, New Jersey sucks.

[CAA Flagship]

http://www.nj.com/atlantic/index.ssf/20 ... posts.html

If that's true, then you'd think most beaches in the country would have lifeguards, when most (at least in those other states) don't..

It's a matter of the number of people you serve. Like the number of ATM's in a city versus a desert.

https://www.visitnc.com/story/beaches-w ... ard-stands

[CID1990]

Sorry Flaggy. Rehoboth and Dewey Beaches have noteworthy, competition-winning beach patrols and daily beach cleaning, and again, no charge to get on the beach, and no sales tax when you go get pizza for lunch. Just face it, New Jersey sucks.

If you Yankees had enough common sense not to go in rough water or throw their cheesy poof wrappers and rubbers on the ground you wouldn't need any of that

I'll bet you my kindred souls in slower DE aren't throwing sh1t on the ground or drowning

[CAA Flagship]

Sorry Flaggy. Rehoboth and Dewey Beaches have noteworthy, competition-winning beach patrols and daily beach cleaning, and again, no charge to get on the beach, and no sales tax when you go get pizza for lunch. Just face it, New Jersey sucks.

There's a cost for all that. Maybe it's paid for by real estate taxes by the residents or business taxes that reap the benefit of the beachgoers.

[93henfan]

Sorry Flaggy. Rehoboth and Dewey Beaches have noteworthy, competition-winning beach patrols and daily beach cleaning, and again, no charge to get on the beach, and no sales tax when you go get pizza for lunch. Just face it, New Jersey sucks.

If you Yankees had enough common sense not to go in rough water or throw their cheesy poof wrappers and rubbers on the ground you wouldn't need any of that

I'll bet you my kindred souls in slower DE aren't throwing sh1t on the ground or drowning

We're talking probably less than five total miles of lifeguarded beaches: Rehoboth about ten blocks, same for Dewey, even less for Bethany, and then about 200 yards each at Cape Henlopen, Delaware Seashore (x2 lifeguarded areas) and Fenwick Island State Parks. We're talking maybe a couple of percent of the ocean shoreline guarded in the state, and that is for four months.

[CAA Flagship]

If you Yankees had enough common sense not to go in rough water or throw their cheesy poof wrappers and rubbers on the ground you wouldn't need any of that

I'll bet you my kindred souls in slower DE aren't throwing sh1t on the ground or drowning

We're talking probably less than five total miles of lifeguarded beaches: Rehoboth about ten blocks, same for Dewey, even less for Bethany, and then about 200 yards each at Cape Henlopen, Delaware Seashore (x2 lifeguarded areas) and Fenwick Island State Parks. We're talking maybe a couple of percent of the ocean shoreline guarded in the state, and that is for four months.

Yeah. Cost must be fairly negligible.