Psych paper that sums up difference betwen conks and donks on race

[JohnStOnge]

I had an interesting weekend delving into that paper on ideology and intelligence. I read a critique of it at https://docsmith.co/2010/04/are-liberal ... -it-is-so/. I also found the paper at https://personal.lse.ac.uk/kanazawa/pdfs/SPQ2010.pdf and read that. There is a problem with the study in that, as far as I can tell, the author just directly converted results of the Peabody Picture Vocabulary Test (PPVT) to an IQ score for each subject then went from there.

I think that was a mistake. It left him open to criticism. I think he'd have been better off reporting everything in terms of PPVT scores then making the argument that the magnitude of differences in PPVT scores means high confidence that those who identified as liberals as young adults did indeed have higher IQ on average than those who identified as conservatives did. I say that after also spending some time looking at information on correlations between PPVT scores and IQ scores.

Anyway I do think the data described strongly supports believing those who identified as liberals did have higher IQs when they took the PPVTs. But the author should not have tried to report things in terms of IQ scores because he didn't have IQ scores.

[JohnStOnge]

Here's one conservatives might like: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 9614001081

Carl (2014) analysed data from the U.S. General Social Survey (GSS), and found that individuals who identify as Republican have slightly higher verbal intelligence than those who identify as Democrat.

That does not surprise me. As I wrote earlier, I do not think identifying as Democrat or Republican and identifying as Liberal or Conservative is the same thing. I think some of the groups that vote Democrat and tend to have low group mean IQ scores also tend not to identify as Liberal.

I've always thought that if you could get the IQ scores of everybody who votes in a reasonably typical national election you would see overwhelming Democrat advantages in both the lower extreme of the IQ range and the upper extreme. I think substantial majorities of both the bottom 15% and the top 15% would be seen as voting Democrat. The majority in the middle 70% would be seen as voting Republican. And the means would be close.

At least that's the way I think it's been most of my life. It's not as clear cut on both ends since the Trump thing started. I'm talking about looking at educational attainment. It used to be that the lowest level and the highest level consistently voted overwhelmingly Democrat. The past couple of national elections the highest level has done that but the lowest level isn't as clear. Also the second highest level (Bachelors degrees) have shifted more to the Democrat side.

[ALPHAGRIZ1]

Oh...there's another thing: The reason why conservatives were less likely to present less competence to Blacks could be because they were not as competent as liberals were to begin with. I know that's unpleasant. But it's possible. I'd have to read the whole thing to get a better idea as to the possible impact of that. And I'm not going to read the whole thing.

Again: I am a conservative. But, at the same time, I think that people who are willing to identify as "liberal" have a higher IQ on average than people who are willing to identify as "conservative" do. That could be a factor in the "tone down" thing.

You just proved your IQ thingy with that post

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