2020 Democratic Nomination Process Mega-thread

[SDHornet]

So JSO still taking a beating regarding economic articles and the Trump admin? Shocker.

[CID1990]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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[CID1990]

5 Things to Know About Kamala Harris :
https://politics.theonion.com/5-things- ... =The_Onion

#5

LAWL


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[kalm]

So JSO still taking a beating regarding economic articles and the Trump admin? Shocker.

1). Economic voting is about perception and expectations.

2). Education, housing, and health insurance costs continue to remain high.

3). I’d be curious to see some stats and polls related to the working class. If the the plight of the working class hasn’t improved, that’s something to exploit for the Dems if they’re smart. But they aren’t smart.

[houndawg]

I'm not a trained economist...but I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night...

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/05/us/p ... trump.html

Most economists do not see the trade gap as money “lost” to other countries, nor do they worry about trade deficits to a large degree.

Look, when you buy something from someone else you get something and they get something. I don't think you need to be a professional economist to see that nobody loses unless someone gets cheated with respect to how much something is actually worth.

When people in the US buy Chinese goods, they are getting those goods for cheap. Do you really doubt that?

Why would you EXPECT to see a situation in which people in China were buying as much or more stuff produced in the United States as/than people in the United States are buying stuff produced in China?

Astrologer with a college degree.

[houndawg]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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Neither one will be the nominee, Warren has an outside shot at VP.

While we hope the primary is entertaining of course, it really isn't important to voters, their minds are already made up. Whom it is important to is the DNC - if they weren't so clueless they'd be shoveling dirt on top of the Republican coffin right now.

[CID1990]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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Neither one will be the nominee, Warren has an outside shot at VP.

While we hope the primary is entertaining of course, it really isn't important to voters, their minds are already made up. Whom it is important to is the DNC - if they weren't so clueless they'd be shoveling dirt on top of the Republican coffin right now.

Right now the only dirt they’re throwing is on Amy Klobuchar


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[houndawg]

So JSO still taking a beating regarding economic articles and the Trump admin? Shocker.

1). Economic voting is about perception and expectations.

2). Education, housing, and health insurance costs continue to remain high.

3). I’d be curious to see some stats and polls related to the working class. If the the plight of the working class hasn’t improved, that’s something to exploit for the Dems if they’re smart. But they aren’t smart.

Back in the day during the Cold War and the Space Race they used to tell us in grade school that the reason our system was better than the Soviet Union's system was because we had a thriving middle class with unlimited opportunity while the evil Soviets only had two classes of people, a small class of elites and millions of serfs with no chance of becoming not serfs.

[houndawg]

Neither one will be the nominee, Warren has an outside shot at VP.

While we hope the primary is entertaining of course, it really isn't important to voters, their minds are already made up. Whom it is important to is the DNC - if they weren't so clueless they'd be shoveling dirt on top of the Republican coffin right now.

Right now the only dirt they’re throwing is on Amy Klobuchar


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Bernie is a confounding factor, especially if he runs as an Independent, or I would have called her the sleeper candidate like Bernie was last time. But I think Sanders is being wily here with the ultimate objective of trading him stepping out of the race in exchange for plank(s) in the donk platform.

[SDHornet]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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Neither one will be the nominee, Warren has an outside shot at VP.

While we hope the primary is entertaining of course, it really isn't important to voters, their minds are already made up. Whom it is important to is the DNC - if they weren't so clueless they'd be shoveling dirt on top of the Republican coffin right now.

Agree. donks just had to not go full retard and they probably cruise to WH victory in 2020. Problem is they went far beyond full retard.

[SDHornet]

[BDKJMU]

So how many of the donk candidates are we going to see sign on to the new green deal, preach against the evils of global warming and carbon footprints, then while campaigning go full hypocrite, good enough for thee but not for me, flying in private jets and traveling in SUV convoys?
Seems like Sanders has already gone full hypocrite.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/ ... ts-1182793

[Ibanez]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

[CID1990]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

None of that matters - the pathway to the nomination is to run to the left

And Republicans are going to rediscover their eye for bullsh1t

And Democrats are going to defend the bullsh1t

It is going to be a year of flip-floppy goodness


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[JohnStOnge]

He didn't win at all. The bottom line is that US consumers have benefitted greatly from what's going on with China. If that apple cart is upset US consumers are not going to be happy.

And this thing about a trade deficit being "bad" has got to stop. As may others have said, if I buy something from somebody I give them money and they give me what I want to buy. It's not "bad" when I go to Wal Mart and buy a cheap watch. I want a cheap watch. So I give Wal Mart $10 and Wal Mart gives me a cheap watch.

I have a trade deficit with Wal Mart. But we are both happy.

Me thinks you don't understand trade deficits.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/i ... eficit.asp

Can you explain how you think that article proves me wrong. First of all, it starts off by saying there is a debate about the topic:

One point of contention has been whether or not a trade deficit, also known as a current account deficit, is beneficial or detrimental to a country's economy.

The author appears to be in the camp that believes it is, in theory, detrimental. But even he writes this:

Economic theory suggests that persistent trade deficits will be detrimental to a nation's economic outlook by negatively impacting employment, growth, and devaluing its currency. The United States, as the world's largest deficit nation, has consistently proven these theories wrong.

[JohnStOnge]

If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

None of that matters - the pathway to the nomination is to run to the left

And Republicans are going to rediscover their eye for bullsh1t

And Democrats are going to defend the bullsh1t

It is going to be a year of flip-floppy goodness

I think that the Republicans are blind to the fact that the ground is shifting beneath their feet. They are going to the well of trying to scare people about socialism, government control, taxing the rich, etc. And they apparently don't realize that people are not afraid of socialism, government control, taxing the rich, etc. as they used to be. Most people believe climate change is a problem that needs to be addressed. Most people believe health care is a right. Most people believe government should tax the hell out of the super rich to pay for benefits for everybody else. Whether that means the Republicans get killed in 2020 is uncertain. But the trends for the long term indicate that the Republican position is not tenable. The Party is headed for oblivion unless the overall demographic and cultural trends somehow change.

[CID1990]

None of that matters - the pathway to the nomination is to run to the left

And Republicans are going to rediscover their eye for bullsh1t

And Democrats are going to defend the bullsh1t

It is going to be a year of flip-floppy goodness

I think that the Republicans are going to have demographic problems moving forward.

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[JohnStOnge]

I think that the Republicans are going to have demographic problems moving forward.

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The demographic problems are big but the Republicans are also on the short end of the stick when it comes to cultural evolution among Whites. I think something like the homosexual marriage thing is an example of that. I personally am opposed to the idea of homosexual marriage. But there is no doubt that the culture evolved to a point where most people...including most Whites...came to favor it.

[Ivytalk]

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The demographic problems are big but the Republicans are also on the short end of the stick when it comes to cultural evolution among Whites. I think something like the homosexual marriage thing is an example of that. I personally am opposed to the idea of homosexual marriage. But there is no doubt that the culture evolved to a point where most people...including most Whites...came to favor it.

So who’s your pick in the Donk primary field, John? I’m sure you’ll change your registration to Donk by the Louisiana deadline. You probably like Klobuchar. Just a guess.

[CID1990]

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Yes, and the GOP also has cultural evolution problems in the white population as well.

Fixed this one for you also



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[Ibanez]

If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

None of that matters - the pathway to the nomination is to run to the left

And Republicans are going to rediscover their eye for bullsh1t

And Democrats are going to defend the bullsh1t

It is going to be a year of flip-floppy goodness


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So - business as usual. I agree. I was pointing out how absurd reparations are.

[Ibanez]

Me thinks you don't understand trade deficits.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/i ... eficit.asp

Can you explain how you think that article proves me wrong. First of all, it starts off by saying there is a debate about the topic:

One point of contention has been whether or not a trade deficit, also known as a current account deficit, is beneficial or detrimental to a country's economy.

The author appears to be in the camp that believes it is, in theory, detrimental. But even he writes this:

Economic theory suggests that persistent trade deficits will be detrimental to a nation's economic outlook by negatively impacting employment, growth, and devaluing its currency. The United States, as the world's largest deficit nation, has consistently proven these theories wrong.

I believe what you're getting hung up on is that both parties are happy b/c they each what they got. The deficit represents a figure showing the US gives more money to China than in reverse. Closing the gap of the trade deficit so that's it's more balanced, to me, should be the objective. There are certainly pros and cons - but again, I believe our objective should be to not have such an imbalance. A surplus would be nice, but that's only happened like 5 times in 50 years.

[houndawg]

Neither one will be the nominee, Warren has an outside shot at VP.

While we hope the primary is entertaining of course, it really isn't important to voters, their minds are already made up. Whom it is important to is the DNC - if they weren't so clueless they'd be shoveling dirt on top of the Republican coffin right now.

Agree. donks just had to not go full retard and they probably cruise to WH victory in 2020. Problem is they went far beyond full retard.

Waaay too soon for that prediction - lets see what kind of deal the Russians can help Moscow Don cut in Vietnam first......patience grasshopper...

[houndawg]

Harris and Warren both coming out for reparations

I love it

I thought Trump winning in 2016 was the mother of all Dem self inflicted wounds but looks like they want us to hold their beer for 2020

A bit confused as to why Warren isn’t for reparations for los indigenos but ok


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If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

Worse, they shine a spotlight on how out-of-touch they are with the Progressive Left they suddenly claim to be representing.

[Ibanez]

If they can find a slave owner alive, sure, go get some back pay. The time for monetary reparations has long passed. These comments and stances are pathetic pandering attempts.

Like saying you got high in the 1980s to Tupac.

Worse, they shine a spotlight on how out-of-touch they are with the Progressive Left they suddenly claim to be representing.

Absolutely.