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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:07 am
Will russia accept a peace deal that includes Ukraine joining NATO? Any deal without that is just giving russia time to prep for another invasion and should be a non-starter for Ukraine.
Who knows what they'll accept, but they hold all the cards now. Neocons shot down an offer before the SMO started and one when the SMO was 4 months old.
How do they hold all the cards?
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:58 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 12:38 pm

Appearing to take Kiev seemed like a feint to freeze Ukrainian forces. I will say that what I have heard is Putin miscalculated in believing he could send forces in and the ethnic Russians were going to help. Apparently the ethnic Russians said that if Russia's forces weren't going to stay, there would be retribution on them, so they didn't help. That changed the war to what we see now. Ukrainians entrenched and Russia slowly advancing as the simply destroy their positions with artillery.

In regards to Ukraine gaining any sort of upper hand due to a long drawn out war, that has not happened and won't happen. Ukrainian forces have been decimated.

Yes, stories of frustration and dead generals are false. Russia is stomping Ukraine's ass.

Remember we have a hat bet!! I keep hearing Ukraine will be a rump state though and also hearing Russia is rotating troops and getting ready for a big offensive.

This guy's been pretty spot on and pretty much what I said.

Looks like someone lost a hat bet!! :lol:
You can look in a mirror to see who lost unless you're going to argue that Ukraine fell more than 10 months ago.
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SD, how about an avatar or hat bet? If all of Ukraine falls before the end of the year, you get to pick my avatar or I will send you a UNI hat. If Ukraine doesn't fall, I get to pick your avatar or you send me a Sac State hat.

SG, same offer but a Jizz hat?
I don't know if ALL of Ukraine will fall by end of year, but hell ya! I'll give it a whirl. It's a bet.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:13 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:58 pm

Looks like someone lost a hat bet!! :lol:
You can look in a mirror to see who lost unless you're going to argue that Ukraine fell more than 10 months ago.
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I don't know if ALL of Ukraine will fall by end of year, but hell ya! I'll give it a whirl. It's a bet.
Shit. Glad you found the terms.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:09 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:53 pm

Who knows what they'll accept, but they hold all the cards now. Neocons shot down an offer before the SMO started and one when the SMO was 4 months old.
How do they hold all the cards?
Ukraine has no able bodies left. Russia has been pounding the hell out of all the new guys with zero experience. Russia has all options on the table.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:45 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:09 pm
How do they hold all the cards?
Ukraine has no able bodies left. Russia has been pounding the hell out of all the new guys with zero experience. Russia has all options on the table.
If I were a Ukrainian, I would rather die fighting then agree to peace without a guarantee that russia won't invade again. russia and putin's word isn't worth sh!t, the only guarantee that matters is NATO membership.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:56 pm
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:45 pm

Ukraine has no able bodies left. Russia has been pounding the hell out of all the new guys with zero experience. Russia has all options on the table.
If I were a Ukrainian, I would rather die fighting then agree to peace without a guarantee that russia won't invade again. russia and putin's word isn't worth sh!t, the only guarantee that matters is NATO membership.
:lol: Well you ain't a Ukrainian, so stop asking to pile more bodies. NATO built up Ukraine for eight years Houwndy #2.
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https://archive.ph/wNzUa

He admits shit I've been trying to explain to you lunkheads that ever thought Ukraine had a chance.
The commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces on how to win the war
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote:https://archive.ph/wNzUa

He admits shit I've been trying to explain to you lunkheads that ever thought Ukraine had a chance.
The commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces on how to win the war
Let’s give them what they need to bleed Russia dry.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:10 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:https://archive.ph/wNzUa

He admits shit I've been trying to explain to you lunkheads that ever thought Ukraine had a chance.
Let’s give them what they need to bleed Russia dry.
Maybe we should send you over there. You can show them how it's done.
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The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote:
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:13 pm

You can look in a mirror to see who lost unless you're going to argue that Ukraine fell more than 10 months ago.

Shit. Glad you found the terms.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:53 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:07 am

Will russia accept a peace deal that includes Ukraine joining NATO? Any deal without that is just giving russia time to prep for another invasion and should be a non-starter for Ukraine.


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Who knows what they'll accept, but they hold all the cards now. Neocons shot down an offer before the SMO started and one when the SMO was 4 months old.

We're going to have to fight them eventually since they won't be stopping with a piece of Ukraine if they get it. They're pretty much fish in a barrel, NATO would easily run them back to Russia without putting a single boot on the ground. :coffee:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:53 pm https://archive.ph/wNzUa

He admits shit I've been trying to explain to you lunkheads that ever thought Ukraine had a chance.
The commander-in-chief of Ukraine’s armed forces on how to win the war
...more dead Russian christians, thats the way you do it. Most of them in Ukraine are career criminals anyway. :coffee:
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:26 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:10 pm
Let’s give them what they need to bleed Russia dry.
Maybe we should send you over there. You can show them how it's done.
now now SG, no need to get snippy - maybe you'd be more help, haven't you mentioned your experience with crew-served weapons here? Pretty sure it was you back in your "inflicting pain on Navy SEALS" phase... :?
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:32 pm
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Shit. Glad you found the terms.
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UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:32 pm
SeattleGriz wrote:
Shit. Glad you found the terms.
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Your choice. You won, so you get to pick whichever you want. That was the deal.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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kalm wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 6:41 am
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:32 pm

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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:43 pm
UNI88 wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 3:13 pm

You can look in a mirror to see who lost unless you're going to argue that Ukraine fell more than 10 months ago.

Shit. Glad you found the terms.
You lost any way, none of Ukraine will fall by the end of the year
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kalm wrote:
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I was thinking maybe:
- trump behind bars
- trump being sodomized by putin
- something with Monte


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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:01 am
kalm wrote:
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Tinfoil is good.

I was thinking maybe:
- trump behind bars
- trump being sodomized by putin
- something with Monte


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You stay away from Monte dammit!
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UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:01 am
kalm wrote:
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Tinfoil is good.

I was thinking maybe:
- trump behind bars
- trump being sodomized by putin
- something with Monte


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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 am
UNI88 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 9:01 am

Tinfoil is good.

I was thinking maybe:
- trump behind bars
- trump being sodomized by putin
- something with Monte


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Okay. That was mildly funny. Actually I laughed pretty good at that one.
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 4:40 pm
houndawg wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:57 am
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Okay. That was mildly funny. Actually I laughed pretty good at that one.
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It even includes a perineum stimulator. I bet trump used one just like this with putin in Helsinki.
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houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:13 am
SeattleGriz wrote: Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:53 pm

Who knows what they'll accept, but they hold all the cards now. Neocons shot down an offer before the SMO started and one when the SMO was 4 months old.

We're going to have to fight them eventually since they won't be stopping with a piece of Ukraine if they get it. They're pretty much fish in a barrel, NATO would easily run them back to Russia without putting a single boot on the ground. :coffee:
Exactly what they should of done in the first place

Stay out until they cross the line and punish them dearly if they dared too
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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Caribbean Hen wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:17 pm
houndawg wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2023 4:13 am


We're going to have to fight them eventually since they won't be stopping with a piece of Ukraine if they get it. They're pretty much fish in a barrel, NATO would easily run them back to Russia without putting a single boot on the ground. :coffee:
Exactly what they should of done in the first place

Stay out until they cross the line and punish them dearly if they dared too
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Re: The Ukraine Crisis

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SeattleGriz wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 6:12 pm Whatever Hyundai says about the Ukraine war and Russia, believe the opposite. He been right less than a broken clock.

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