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houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:56 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:59 pm

The bible was written by men interpreting God's words. What if they screwed it up and it isn't accurate?

And every scribe put his own mark on it

Oh Lord.

It's not too late brother. C'mon over. I make a mean bbq pulled pork.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:38 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:34 pm

1). I’m not a Christian.

2). Someone’s value as a human being has nothing to do with their chosen faith. It’s their actions that matter.

3). This also has nothing to do with calling out hypocrisy or rhetoric that threatens our constitutional rights (to circle back to Mike Johnson). That hypocrisy and threat clearly transcends faith.

And I'll ask again. What threat will Mike Johnson implement? I too think he's a little too uptight, but I'm not worried about what he'll "ram through".

So what is he going to implement?

Start with the 2020 election. Then go to how he professes to legislate. Next answer each of my three points in the post.

I’ll let you do your own research.

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:58 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:38 pm

And I'll ask again. What threat will Mike Johnson implement? I too think he's a little too uptight, but I'm not worried about what he'll "ram through".

So what is he going to implement?

Start with the 2020 election. Then go to how he professes to legislate. Next answer each of my three points in the post.

I’ll let you do your own research.

You made a claim about Johnsone, and when called on it, couldn't come up with a reply?

You're horrible by Jesus standards. Not a good look. Blueanon nutjob. Known and expected on this board. Sleep it off bro.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:38 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:34 pm

1). I’m not a Christian.

2). Someone’s value as a human being has nothing to do with their chosen faith. It’s their actions that matter.

3). This also has nothing to do with calling out hypocrisy or rhetoric that threatens our constitutional rights (to circle back to Mike Johnson). That hypocrisy and threat clearly transcends faith.

And I'll ask again. What threat will Mike Johnson implement? I too think he's a little too uptight, but I'm not worried about what he'll "ram through".

So what is he going to implement?

He’s no threat at all, these Jesus haters on here have labeled Him as the boogeyman and it’s sad and comical to read …. Kalm will tell you Johnson not Jesus is the boogeyman but he doesn’t read his own posts

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:40 pm

houndawg wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:56 pm

And every scribe put his own mark on it

Oh Lord.

It's not too late brother. C'mon over. I make a mean bbq pulled pork.

You come here - the bbq is better.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:56 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:58 pm

Start with the 2020 election. Then go to how he professes to legislate. Next answer each of my three points in the post.

I’ll let you do your own research.

You made a claim about Johnsone, and when called on it, couldn't come up with a reply?

You're horrible by Jesus standards. Not a good look. Blueanon nutjob. Known and expected on this board. Sleep it off bro.

I provided the path. It’s up to you to challenge your own thinking.

The Lesser Minds Problem:

We dismiss those we disagree with as stupid, insane or evil because it saves us from having to deal with the complex truth: that people see things differently from us largely because the labyrinth of experience has led them to different conclusions.

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:48 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:38 pm

And I'll ask again. What threat will Mike Johnson implement? I too think he's a little too uptight, but I'm not worried about what he'll "ram through".

So what is he going to implement?

He’s no threat at all, these Jesus haters on here have labeled Him as the boogeyman and it’s sad and comical to read …. Kalm will tell you Johnson not Jesus is the boogeyman but he doesn’t read his own posts

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:56 pm

You made a claim about Johnsone, and when called on it, couldn't come up with a reply?

You're horrible by Jesus standards. Not a good look. Blueanon nutjob. Known and expected on this board. Sleep it off bro.

I provided the path. It’s up to you to challenge your own thinking.

The Lesser Minds Problem:

We dismiss those we disagree with as stupid, insane or evil because it saves us from having to deal with the complex truth: that people see things differently from us largely because the labyrinth of experience has led them to different conclusions.

It’s called getting off the farm

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:47 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 am

I provided the path. It’s up to you to challenge your own thinking.

The Lesser Minds Problem:

We dismiss those we disagree with as stupid, insane or evil because it saves us from having to deal with the complex truth: that people see things differently from us largely because the labyrinth of experience has led them to different conclusions.

It’s called getting off the farm

My farm is 4 miles from a regional university. A place full of learning resources like books and lab equipment.

You should check a few these things out sometime.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:55 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:47 am

It’s called getting off the farm

My farm is 4 miles from a regional university. A place full of learning resources like books and lab equipment.

You should check a few these things out sometime.

I’ve been all over the world and walked the streets outside the lab

You should try some of these things out sometime

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:06 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:55 am

My farm is 4 miles from a regional university. A place full of learning resources like books and lab equipment.

You should check a few these things out sometime.

I’ve been all over the world and walked the streets outside the lab

You should try some of these things out sometime

Next…you should try books.

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:06 am

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:55 am
My farm is 4 miles from a regional university. A place full of learning resources like books and lab equipment.

You should check a few these things out sometime.

I’ve been all over the world and walked the streets outside the lab

You should try some of these things out sometime

I've done and appreciate both. Both are valuable.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:48 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:06 am

I’ve been all over the world and walked the streets outside the lab

You should try some of these things out sometime

I've done and appreciate both. Both are valuable.

That’s makes much more sense than Kalms reply

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:32 am

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:06 am

I’ve been all over the world and walked the streets outside the lab

You should try some of these things out sometime

Next…you should try books.

Thomas Sowell has written dozens of books

How many of them have you read?

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:50 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:32 am

Next…you should try books.

Thomas Sowell has written dozens of books

How many of them have you read?

I used to read his syndicated column weekly when it was in the Spokesman Review. I recognize the education and mildly appreciate his economics (as much as one can, given the unrealistic nature of libertarianism) but where he takes his economic ideas with philosophy and politics gives me zero desire to read his books.

So zero. The answer is zero. A number which will remain.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:58 pm

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:50 pm

Thomas Sowell has written dozens of books

How many of them have you read?

I used to read his syndicated column weekly when it was in the Spokesman Review. I recognize the education and mildly appreciate his economics (as much as one can, given the unrealistic nature of libertarianism) but where he takes his economic ideas with philosophy and politics gives me zero desire to read his books.

So zero. The answer is zero. A number which will remain.

Typical, you’re open mindedness attitude is really only open to your own narrative

“What socialism, fascism and other ideologies of the left have in common is an assumption that some very wise people—like themselves—need to take decisions out of the hands of lesser people, like the rest of us, and impose those decisions by government fiat.”

Thomas Sowell

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 1:09 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:58 pm

I used to read his syndicated column weekly when it was in the Spokesman Review. I recognize the education and mildly appreciate his economics (as much as one can, given the unrealistic nature of libertarianism) but where he takes his economic ideas with philosophy and politics gives me zero desire to read his books.

So zero. The answer is zero. A number which will remain.

Typical, you’re open mindedness attitude is really only open to your own narrative

“What socialism, fascism and other ideologies of the left have in common is an assumption that some very wise people—like themselves—need to take decisions out of the hands of lesser people, like the rest of us, and impose those decisions by government fiat.”

Thomas Sowell

Open mindedness lies in considering alternate points of view. Not always agreeing with them.

The insurmountable pillars for people like Sowell are 1) failure to underestimate greed, 2) that humans are social apes, evolved to cooperate within a community, and 3). A viable form of governance that fits within their economic framework.

There are no purely socialistic economies that thrive. Similarly, the same can be said for libertarian based economies. The argument is in defining the middle between the two.

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 10:56 pm

You made a claim about Johnsone, and when called on it, couldn't come up with a reply?

You're horrible by Jesus standards. Not a good look. Blueanon nutjob. Known and expected on this board. Sleep it off bro.

I provided the path. It’s up to you to challenge your own thinking.

The Lesser Minds Problem:

We dismiss those we disagree with as stupid, insane or evil because it saves us from having to deal with the complex truth: that people see things differently from us largely because the labyrinth of experience has led them to different conclusions.

Then why won't you challenge yourself to at least understand what Jesus was about, even if you don't believe?

I've only been harassing you because it'd be like me telling you something about golf that was a common misconception. Telling you that if you didn't adhere to this misconception, you were a hack golfer.

I'd then proceed to roundly criticize current professionals as hacks.

houndawg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:05 am

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 7:40 pm
Oh Lord.

It's not too late brother. C'mon over. I make a mean bbq pulled pork.

You come here - the bbq is better.

How far are you from Chicago?

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:29 pm

houndawg wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 5:05 am
You come here - the bbq is better.

How far are you from Chicago?

He's closer to Memphis which means the bbq might be better. Not as good as KC or the Ozarks but better than Chicago.

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:29 pm

How far are you from Chicago?

He's closer to Memphis which means the bbq might be better. Not as good as KC or the Ozarks but better than Chicago.

As an SIU grad, that makes sense. Probably should have asked, "How far from St Louis"?

Caribbean Hen wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 12:50 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:32 am

Next…you should try books.

Thomas Sowell has written dozens of books

How many of them have you read?

Klam hates all darkies that leave his plantation. He's like an anti-semite. Out in the open, but shocked his views are not in the norm.

Judge Thomas, Pediatric Neurosurgeon Carson, Bobby Jindhal, Vivek Ramaswamy and now Thomas Sowell.

Jesus would not approve of his stance. Not a good look

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:29 pm

How far are you from Chicago?

He's closer to Memphis which means the bbq might be better. Not as good as KC or the Ozarks but better than Chicago.

Oh please.

a) Three time world champ at Memphis in the next town over - 17th St bar and Grill

b) check your geological map, this part of Illinois is the Ozarks.

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:18 pm

UNI88 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:09 pm

He's closer to Memphis which means the bbq might be better. Not as good as KC or the Ozarks but better than Chicago.

As an SIU grad, that makes sense. Probably should have asked, "How far from St Louis"?

2 hrs. from St. Louis, 6 hrs. from Chicago, 3 hrs from Memphis or Nashville, cmon down

SeattleGriz wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:28 pm

kalm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:31 am

I provided the path. It’s up to you to challenge your own thinking.

The Lesser Minds Problem:

We dismiss those we disagree with as stupid, insane or evil because it saves us from having to deal with the complex truth: that people see things differently from us largely because the labyrinth of experience has led them to different conclusions.

Then why won't you challenge yourself to at least understand what Jesus was about, even if you don't believe?

I've only been harassing you because it'd be like me telling you something about golf that was a common misconception. Telling you that if you didn't adhere to this misconception, you were a hack golfer.

I'd then proceed to roundly criticize current professionals as hacks.

Jesus’s ideas of love, humility, compassion, service to the needy, aren’t uncommon or difficult to grasp. They are human traits that come naturally to many people including children. The challenge lies in living up to them as you move through life.

They’re way more intuitive than letting your come UP with your swing or swinging with less effort to hit it further.

I’m not sure why you think the teachings are some super secret code that only Christian’s can break.

Read the Ghandi quote a few times. It’s relevant here.