Bin Laden Dead

[HI54UNI]

So, you're against even considering negotiating with the Taliban. But, you're in favor of leaving Afghanistan... and leaving it open for them to assume full and total control?

do you really think it's possible to negotiate in good faith with these assholes? really? more than that is the principle of the thing... we didn't negotiate with the japanese, and rightly so.

what i'm saying is, you can't engage in "nation building" in a place that isn't a nation... you can only stand back and keep it in check... it's the same way i truly believe terrorism cannot ever be defeated, you just have to remain vigilant and fight it at the roots as much as at the tops...

QFT

[Appaholic]

What exactly is wrong negotiating with the Taliban and bringing them into the political process? Seems like the best way to end this war... and we have our best chance of doing so now.

Remember this guy? That strategy was fairly effective in dealing with him in Iraq.

are you fucking kidding?

The Taliban - led by Mullah Mohammed Omar... INVITED BIN LADEN TO AFGHANISTAN. Fuckers provided the support infrastructure for the 9-11 plotters... the blood of 3,000 Americans is on their hands, every bit as much as it is on the hands of Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri...

fuck them in the ass with a very large lead pipe.

Who is this new, improved, angry TTBF? Me likey...

[AZGrizFan]

are you fucking kidding?

The Taliban - led by Mullah Mohammed Omar... INVITED BIN LADEN TO AFGHANISTAN. Fuckers provided the support infrastructure for the 9-11 plotters... the blood of 3,000 Americans is on their hands, every bit as much as it is on the hands of Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri...

fuck them in the ass with a very large lead pipe.

Who is this new, improved, angry TTBF? Me likey...

I hacked his account.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

are you fucking kidding?

The Taliban - led by Mullah Mohammed Omar... INVITED BIN LADEN TO AFGHANISTAN. Fuckers provided the support infrastructure for the 9-11 plotters... the blood of 3,000 Americans is on their hands, every bit as much as it is on the hands of Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed, Osama Bin Laden and Al Zwahiri...

fuck them in the ass with a very large lead pipe.

Who is this new, improved, angry TTBF? Me likey...

Same TTBF - still filled with the same resolve as I ever was. We made a mistake in calling this a war. This, is a fight. A fight with enemies who don't play by the rules, who target civilians and who won't stop until either one of us is dead. That, is a fight we don't lose. Period. We can never truly "win" the fight either, but wage it on many fronts and press the advantages that we have.

You attack the roots of terrorism, by doing what you can and what you ought to, to bring shared prosperity and self-determination to desperate people - people with skin in the game are a lot harder to recruit to extremism. (and before every conk on the board says i'm embracing the bush doctrine... i'm not, he failed in one key way... invading and occupying Iraq - the wrong way to go about achieving the goal that i believe the bush admin had to bring about the change we're now starting to see in the middle east) but when you find terrorists, you root them out like the malignant growth that they are - you do not negotiate with those who seek to only to destroy you.

All of that being said - the one way to surely lose the fight, is to compromise who we are. To devolve to the level of our enemies would be to create a Pyrrhic victory. Which is why we do things like burying our enemies as their religion proscribes... because put simply: we are better than them.

[Wedgebuster]

The Taliban visits Texas-

Representatives of the Taliban are invited guests to the Texas headquarters of Unocal to negotiate their support for the pipeline. Future President George W. Bush is Governor of Texas at the time.
http://www.historycommons.org/entity.jsp?entity=taliban

[houndawg]

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Disgusting...and jellyboy doesn't even get it.

Hey, forget our men and women who are dying for nothing...they don't mean anything. What is important is for Obama to be able to look good and get re-elected.

Instead of being a leader and pulling our troops out, Obama and his team have been letting our soldiers die in Afghanistan so that Obama can find the best time for his political gain to pull them out.

Obushma...tossing the lower/middle class into the meat grinder for his personal gain.

When you put on the uniform you become a tool of foreign policy and there are no guarantees that foreign policy will use you well. Everybody knows that.

[citdog]

Who is this new, improved, angry TTBF? Me likey...

Same TTBF - still filled with the same resolve as I ever was. We made a mistake in calling this a war. This, is a fight. A fight with enemies who don't play by the rules, who target civilians and who won't stop until either one of us is dead. That, is a fight we don't lose. Period. We can never truly "win" the fight either, but wage it on many fronts and press the advantages that we have.

You attack the roots of terrorism, by doing what you can and what you ought to, to bring shared prosperity and self-determination to desperate people - people with skin in the game are a lot harder to recruit to extremism. (and before every conk on the board says i'm embracing the bush doctrine... i'm not, he failed in one key way... invading and occupying Iraq - the wrong way to go about achieving the goal that i believe the bush admin had to bring about the change we're now starting to see in the middle east) but when you find terrorists, you root them out like the malignant growth that they are - you do not negotiate with those who seek to only to destroy you.

All of that being said - the one way to surely lose the fight, is to compromise who we are. To devolve to the level of our enemies would be to create a Pyrrhic victory. Which is why we do things like burying our enemies as their religion proscribes... because put simply: we are better than them.

hmm self determination is ok for the rest of the planet earth but not for the South.

[89Hen]

We made a mistake in calling this a war. This, is a fight. A fight with enemies who don't play by the rules

I wonder if the British said that about the revolutionaries in 1776.

[TwinTownBisonFan]

We made a mistake in calling this a war. This, is a fight. A fight with enemies who don't play by the rules

I wonder if the British said that about the revolutionaries in 1776.

they sure as hell did - which would explain why they did what they did.

[Wedgebuster]

Correction, this was a crime, not a war.

Should have been handled like a crime from the start, and it would have been long over by now with no boots on the ground in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But it wasn't, and here we are.

[AZGrizFan]

Correction, this was a crime, not a war.

Should have been handled like a crime from the start, and it would have been long over by now with no boots on the ground in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But it wasn't, and here we are.

And now radical muslims in the middle east are saying that Bin Laden was........








wait for it........














......a MURDER victim.





GASP. Oh, the horror!!!!!

[89Hen]

And now radical muslims in the middle east are saying that Bin Laden was........

wait for it........

......a MURDER victim.

Not saying I agree with them, but they do have a point. There was no trial of any kind. I'm thinking Geneva might agree with them.

[EWURanger]

Who is this new, improved, angry TTBF? Me likey...

Same TTBF - still filled with the same resolve as I ever was. We made a mistake in calling this a war. This, is a fight. A fight with enemies who don't play by the rules, who target civilians and who won't stop until either one of us is dead. That, is a fight we don't lose. Period. We can never truly "win" the fight either, but wage it on many fronts and press the advantages that we have.

You attack the roots of terrorism, by doing what you can and what you ought to, to bring shared prosperity and self-determination to desperate people - people with skin in the game are a lot harder to recruit to extremism. (and before every conk on the board says i'm embracing the bush doctrine... i'm not, he failed in one key way... invading and occupying Iraq - the wrong way to go about achieving the goal that i believe the bush admin had to bring about the change we're now starting to see in the middle east) but when you find terrorists, you root them out like the malignant growth that they are - you do not negotiate with those who seek to only to destroy you.

All of that being said - the one way to surely lose the fight, is to compromise who we are. To devolve to the level of our enemies would be to create a Pyrrhic victory. Which is why we do things like burying our enemies as their religion proscribes... because put simply: we are better than them.

Again, can't disagree with you. Are you sure you went to the same school as JBB?

[Wedgebuster]

Correction, this was a crime, not a war.

Should have been handled like a crime from the start, and it would have been long over by now with no boots on the ground in either Iraq or Afghanistan.

But it wasn't, and here we are.

And now radical muslims in the middle east are saying that Bin Laden was........








wait for it........














......a MURDER victim.





GASP. Oh, the horror!!!!!

Real cute Mr. Potato Head

[AZGrizFan]

And now radical muslims in the middle east are saying that Bin Laden was........

wait for it........

......a MURDER victim.

Not saying I agree with them, but they do have a point. There was no trial of any kind. I'm thinking Geneva might agree with them.

The irony that they can be up in arms about Bin Laden being "murdered" but celebrate the innocent slaughter of 3,000 civilians in America in one day can't possibly escape you.

[89Hen]

The irony that they can be up in arms about Bin Laden being "murdered" but celebrate the innocent slaughter of 3,000 civilians in America in one day can't possibly escape you.

No, but it might still have been a "murder".

[Mountaineer]

Fuckin' media always has to take a word or phrase and run it into the ground like no one's ever heard it before. The one I've heard about 53 times today talking about bin Laden gettin' capped: Double Tap.

Like duh, that's Rule #2.

[AZGrizFan]

Fuckin' media always has to take a word or phrase and run it into the ground like no one's ever heard it before. The one I've heard about 53 times today talking about bin Laden gettin' capped: Double Tap.

Like duh, that's Rule #2.

Great reference.

[grizzaholic]

Didn't know if this has been posted yet but...





America, FUCK YEAH

[JoltinJoe]

The irony that they can be up in arms about Bin Laden being "murdered" but celebrate the innocent slaughter of 3,000 civilians in America in one day can't possibly escape you.

No, but it might still have been a "murder".

Look, the apprehension complied with all aspects of law.

The SEALS read Bin Laden his rights. Bin Laden said he wanted to remain silent.

[free7694]

It's inevitable - pretty much impossible to create or foster a strong government there, and even if we could, it would take many more years than we're willing to stay. We can't be there for decades. Pull em out, I say.

So, you're against even considering negotiating with the Taliban. But, you're in favor of leaving Afghanistan... and leaving it open for them to assume full and total control?

This is the United States of America, goddamnit.

We do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, negotiate with terrorists.

And that is exactly what the Taliban are, terrorists, so fuck 'em.

[CID1990]

So, you're against even considering negotiating with the Taliban. But, you're in favor of leaving Afghanistan... and leaving it open for them to assume full and total control?

This is the United States of America, goddamnit.

We do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, negotiate with terrorists.

And that is exactly what the Taliban are, terrorists, so **** 'em.

Sometimes SK needs a little schooling. He was only sh!tting in his poopy napkin just about 15 years ago.

[houndawg]

So, you're against even considering negotiating with the Taliban. But, you're in favor of leaving Afghanistan... and leaving it open for them to assume full and total control?

This is the United States of America, goddamnit.

We do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, negotiate with terrorists.

And that is exactly what the Taliban are, terrorists, so **** 'em.

Nonsense. We negotiate with them all the time, even supply them with weapons.

[YoUDeeMan]

And now radical muslims in the middle east are saying that Bin Laden was........

wait for it........

......a MURDER victim.

Not saying I agree with them, but they do have a point. There was no trial of any kind. I'm thinking Geneva might agree with them.

Obama = a war criminal.

Obushma...it gets better ever day.

[Bronco]

This is the United States of America, goddamnit.

We do NOT, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, negotiate with terrorists.

And that is exactly what the Taliban are, terrorists, so **** 'em.

Nonsense. We negotiate with them all the time, even supply them with weapons.

You are correct...look for the administration to do some explaining on giving weapons to the Mexican terrorists on our border.